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Should criminals collect jackpots?

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Litebets27's avatar - power
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Posted: October 9, 2005, 2:03 am - IP Logged
If it's legally earned money that buys the winning ticket, all owed child support, taxes, judgments, restitutions are all paid ... then who am I to say that any person can't use the remaining money in any manner they choose, legality of which will be determined by their actions?
After all they paid for the right to do just that.
We can learn a lot by observing other people's mistakes, but we can't prevent them from making them or save them from themselves.

I Agree!

 

Acronym007, I never said I don't like you. No where in any of my responses did I say "I don't like you." First of all, I don't know you Personally. I would never form an opinion of rather I liked or disliked you from a question that you asked or from an opinion that you may hold that I may disagree with. It's your opinion or belief that you have to live with. It's my job and others to try and help you to see both sides of the situation through our thoughts, beliefs or opinions. This doesn't by any means, mean that I don't like you. And I 'm sorry if you've preceived that I don't like you from my responses.

I'm done with this thread, I think I made my point earlier.

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    Litebets27's avatar - power
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    Posted: October 9, 2005, 2:04 am - IP Logged
    If it's legally earned money that buys the winning ticket, all owed child support, taxes, judgments, restitutions are all paid ... then who am I to say that any person can't use the remaining money in any manner they choose, legality of which will be determined by their actions?
    After all they paid for the right to do just that.
    We can learn a lot by observing other people's mistakes, but we can't prevent them from making them or save them from themselves.

    I Agree!

     

    Acronym007, I never said I don't like you. No where in any of my responses did I say "I don't like you." First of all, I don't know you Personally. I would never form an opinion of rather I liked or disliked you from a question that you asked or from an opinion that you may hold that I may disagree with. It's your opinion or belief that you have to live with. It's my job and others to try and help you to see both sides of the situation through our thoughts, beliefs or opinions. This doesn't by any means, mean that I don't like you. And I 'm sorry if you've preceived that I don't like you from my responses.

    I'm done with this thread, I think I made my point earlier.

    litebets

      Litebets27's avatar - power
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      Posted: October 9, 2005, 2:07 am - IP Logged

      Sorry, I don't know why this printed twice.

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        Posted: October 9, 2005, 9:26 am - IP Logged

        Would that limitation also apply to immediate family members, lottery pools or anyone else who might share their winnings with a convicted felons?  It's a simple matter for a felon to have a family member or friend claim the winnings and share it with him.

        The original question included all criminals not just killers which would include almost anyone who have done time in jail.

        RJOh

        Rjoh, you are right. The original question did say criminals and not killers. Substitute killers with thieves or rapist and all other criminals who commit crimes or felonies and my point remains the same.
        I guess there would be nothing we could do if a felon won the lottery and gave his 100 million winnings to a friend or family member, expecting to be cut in on his share of the winnings. This criminal would really have to have some amazing and loyal friends or relatives.

        With the lottery I get all the exercise I need.

                          In futility.


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          Posted: October 9, 2005, 10:37 am - IP Logged

          I'm with Todd on this one.

          anyone who pays the buck gets the prize if they win. systems already exist to extract back support for deadbeat dads and criminals in prison serving time don't have a chance to play numbers.

          Playing more than one ticket per game is betting against yourself.


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            Posted: October 9, 2005, 12:33 pm - IP Logged

            Everyone should be allowed to play the Lottery no matter what color,race,religion,political or criminal background they had or currently have.Where they got the money to play should not be a factor either when you consider how our own government officials have a tendancy to aquire funds "illegally" or "secretly" or in ways that the Public would definitely "disagree" with for there own agenda,pet projects or favors for political friends.

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              Posted: October 9, 2005, 4:24 pm - IP Logged

              Everyone should be allowed to play the Lottery no matter what color,race,religion,political or criminal background they had or currently have.Where they got the money to play should not be a factor either when you consider how our own government officials have a tendancy to aquire funds "illegally" or "secretly" or in ways that the Public would definitely "disagree" with for there own agenda,pet projects or favors for political friends.

              The best response of them all!

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                Posted: October 9, 2005, 4:35 pm - IP Logged

                Everyone should be able to posses a weapon as per the constitution but felons lose rights. Lotto is not a right. The subject of color,race,religion,political was never mentioned in my topic but I agree with Pick-4 that discrimantion based on those factors is wrong and they are already illegal.

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                  Posted: October 9, 2005, 5:43 pm - IP Logged

                  Remembr that story book that has the comment about He who is without ... throw the first rock? Alla sudden you have to be a saint to gamble?

                  Cheers

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                    Posted: October 9, 2005, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

                    Basically I was just trying to say that CRIMINALS should be allowed to play the Lottery since everyone else is allowed to play as long as there of age.The race,color,religion,political was just used as an example of what type of people in our society exist and play the lottery freely and I also agree with "Chewie" that you shouldn't have to be a "SAINT" to play the game.Also I was not aware that playing the Lottery was not "a right" as an American citizen since everything else is like drinking,watching porn or owning a weapon "legally".I do know that felons are not allowed to vote or carry weapons but the other stuff like lottery,drinking and porn I believe is still available to them freely.


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                      Posted: October 9, 2005, 6:20 pm - IP Logged

                      I believe we should all be able to do whatever the "heck" we want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else "physically" or break any serious laws that can put you behind bars.

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                        Posted: October 9, 2005, 6:28 pm - IP Logged

                        LoL, well you and I don't see eye to eye Pick but it's all good. I think the popular opinion in this thread is that criminals should be able to play and collect. Me, I'm still not sold one way or the other.

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                          Posted: October 9, 2005, 6:58 pm - IP Logged

                          Everybody have the right to have any kind of ideas about whether good or bad people should win the lottery and how they should spend it after they win but the bottom line for all states is what will make the most money for them.

                          Years ago a group of good and ethical people convinced the Ohio lottery that it was bad enough to have a state sponsored lottery and it was even worst giving more than $20M of unearned money to any person who was willing to buy a lottery ticket, so Ohio installed a rule that one ticket could collect no more than the value of a $20M annuity regardless of the advertised jackpot.  A lot of good and bad people stopped playing and the state lost sales. That rule was eliminated in about six months and Ohio learned a lesson. 

                          Maybe some other states should have two different types of lotteries, one for good and ethical people (no criminals allowed) and another one for anyone who buys a ticket and see which one makes the most money for the states.  If those good and ethical people are willing to spend enough money they may make a point.  Right now the only choice they have is to stop supporting the lottery by not buying tickets, but they're not willing to lose a chance to make million$ or there aren't many of them.

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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