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Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Feb 4, 2007
Could a lottery system that is computer programable be copyrighted?
You would have a programing sequence in the system from the data fed into it to arrive at a list of numbers to play.
Well...... yes....... why on earth would you think otherwise ?
However, all you need to do is find the source code, make some changes, swap an algorithym around a bit so it does the same thing in a different way, and you have a 'new' system. The folks in Redmond are the masters at that, just ask Lotus, Foxpro, Wordperfect, Netscape....
Then, with a little backtracking, one can probably find or just make a good guess as to which set is due for a hit.
yeah this will work Steve..I would like to see a little better distribution of the numbers..one row has 24 numbers..and one row has 4 numbers..see what I mean..maybe try and get them to where each row has a closer amount..and then assign each row a number ..that way all you have to do is track ONE NUMBER..when the number is due you know what combos are attached to that row/number..maybe something like a zip file..when you get the file you unzip it and bam..you get several things at once..lol
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Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Feb 5, 2007
Well...... yes....... why on earth would you think otherwise ?
However, all you need to do is find the source code, make some changes, swap an algorithym around a bit so it does the same thing in a different way, and you have a 'new' system. The folks in Redmond are the masters at that, just ask Lotus, Foxpro, Wordperfect, Netscape....
There are even lawyers who specialize in "design around" patent work. Big companies hire them to ...um..."enhance" ... ideas from little guys. Some of the most famous "inventors" in American history (19th & 20th century) were just shills for the big boys.
BTW, I'm not saying anyone's system/work is not worth protecting. Just understand that you are not making cars or something where the other guy has to first build a factory or foundry to compete with you.
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Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on Feb 6, 2007
There are even lawyers who specialize in "design around" patent work. Big companies hire them to ...um..."enhance" ... ideas from little guys. Some of the most famous "inventors" in American history (19th & 20th century) were just shills for the big boys.
BTW, I'm not saying anyone's system/work is not worth protecting. Just understand that you are not making cars or something where the other guy has to first build a factory or foundry to compete with you.
True. What about Robert Kearns? (Just use a search engine if you don't recognize the name.)
At least he eventually won millions to leave to his family, but it was a very long battle. Good thing he had a patent. It's tough fighting the big guys.
Then, with a little backtracking, one can probably find or just make a good guess as to which set is due for a hit.
This is a data sheet for S.C. combined draws as you have them listed.
I use software and I could break down each group further if I wanted to. I could search for no match, wild match, doubles,consecutive pairs ,all consecutive, sums, roots,triples.
What if we look at the 220 full combo set of picks and classify them as such...
South carolina mid and eve 2922 draws
HHH/EEE = 4
666 668 688 888
total hits 26 avg hit frequency 112.38 least skips 1 most skips 502
HHH/OOO = 10
555 557 559 577 579 599 777 779 799 999
total hits 76 avg hit frequency 38.45 least skips 1 most skips 202
HHH/EEO = 9
566 568 588 667 669 678 689 788 889
total hits 98 avg hit frequency 29.82 least skips 0 most skips 199
HHH/OOE = 12
556 558 567 569 578 589 677 679 699 778 789 899
total hits 157 avg hit frequency 18.61 least skips 0 most skips 118
LLL/EEE = 10
000 002 004 022 024 044 222 224 244 444
total hits 76 avg hit frequency 38.45 least skips 0 most skips 172
LLL/OOO = 4
111 113 133 333
total hits 26 avg hit frequency 112.38 least skips 0 most skips 616
LLL/EEO = 12
001 003 012 014 023 034 122 124 144 223 234 344
total hits 165 avg hit frequency 17.71 least skips 0 most skips 86
LLL/OOE = 9
011 013 033 112 114 123 134 233 334
total hits 109 avg hit frequency 26.81 least skips 0 most skips 131
HHL/EEE = 9
066 068 088 266 268 288 466 468 488
total hits 92 avg hit frequency 31.76 least skips 0 most skips 124
HHL/OOO = 12
155 157 159 177 179 199 355 357 359 377 379 399
total hits 145 avg hit frequency 20.15 least skips 0 most skips 98
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*Sigh*. You can't patent a system for choosing lottery numbers. Ain't gonna happen. Now if you write software, you can copyright the software, but that still doesn't protect the system itself. The only way to protect a lottery system is to keep it to yourself. However, you could still make money off it and keep it protected by creating a web based subscription service. That way, all the code for choosing numbers is running on the server(hopefully under your personal administration) and none of the "algorithms" for choosing those numbers is on the client side.
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Quote: Originally posted by lottolaughs on Feb 1, 2007
The specifics can get very confusing but I know it can be done. LottoVantage's StatPath System is copyrighted. Maybe it would be a good idea to give him a PM and ask him for some details.
No, it can't be done. What you quoted is clear as can be. Look at it again:
<<What Is Not Protected by Copyright?
Ideas, procedures, methods, systems, processes, concepts, principles, discoveries, or devices, as distinguished from a description, explanation, or illustration.>>
You can't copyright a system or an idea for anything, lottery or otherwise. All you can do is copyright an explanation of the system. Lottovantage doesn't have a copyright on a system. He has a copyright on a specific explanation of a system. Since there will always be another way of explaining how the system works, anyone who chooses to explain the system in a different manner is free to do so. That's why there's more than one encyclopedia, more than one dictionary, more than one map of each state, and more than one romance novel.
As for the "mail it to yourself" crowd, there's obviously some confusion about the whole reason for getting a copyright or a patent. It doesn't matter who comes up with an idea first. What matters is who registers the idea first, thus reserving it as their intellectual property. People independently come up with the same ideas all the time, but only one person can be the first to file for a copyright or a trademark. If you and someone else independently come up with the same idea and you mail something to yourself the most you can do is prove that you had the same idea as the other person. If they filed for a patent or a copyright first they are the only one who will be granted a monopoly on the idea. Proving that you came up with the idea first will give you nothing but bragging rights.
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If you have a system that you don't want others to know, just don't tell anyone about it. This doesn't mean it won't be discovered by someone else though. If you think about it, if they could figure it out themself, they probably deserve to know it anyway. As far as this software that some of you are talking about, you can only copyright the SOFTWARE. A system for choosing lottery numbers will have no protection.
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Quote: Originally posted by Guru101 on Feb 8, 2007
If you have a system that you don't want others to know, just don't tell anyone about it. This doesn't mean it won't be discovered by someone else though. If you think about it, if they could figure it out themself, they probably deserve to know it anyway. As far as this software that some of you are talking about, you can only copyright the SOFTWARE. A system for choosing lottery numbers will have no protection.
well by no means have I broken the LOTTERY CODE..lol..all I have done is just found away to turn those cycles into straights only and yes it takes a little longer than those 30-40 days that those other cycles were running on average.. but it is still a HUGE ADVANTAGE to know what is coming STRAIGHT..even if you dont know the day..and I mean THE DAY as in a much shorter TIME PERIOD..the difference is knowing that 567 is coming in the next few months compared to your average Joe saying..yeah..its one of the 1000 combinations of course it is coming, but he/she has no idea of time..when you can attach a combination(s) to a time period you are moving in the right direction in my opinion..and by no means do I know everything..noone does..and what I do know..or have learned, comes from many years of a hobby that I enjoy..researching these numbers..
Now..I may have been out of place making a statement the other day..but I do stand by it..if what you find in Pic 3 does not work in pic 4, pic 5, or pic 6..then you have not found anything and I would ask you to look at pic 4 to begin with..THEY ARE THE SAME NUMBERS..in fact all of the games have THE SAME numbers so whatever you find in pic 3 has to work in the other games..that is why I tinker with pic 3 more than any other game..I know whatever I find will work in the other games as well..
I would like to say Thanks to Todd for starting a great site like this and I really wish I would have found it a long time ago..BECAUSE..since I have joined this site I have found out a few more things about these numbers that I would have never found out otherwise..I think all the games are connected together..its just one HUGE numerical engine, each days draw influences the next days draw..not sure if any of you have noticed this..look at POWERBALL AND MEGA MILLIONS....bust those pairs up into pic 3 combos and pic 4 combos and then run them through the pic 3 data base and pic 4 data base..you might be surprised at what you find..thats right 4-22-28-37 52..See this powerball combo from wednesday nite..bust up all the pairs and match them up and make pic 3 combos also..and watch them come out I only like to use the first digits for pic 3..so 024, 422 looks pretty good in pic 3 pretty soon..you can take any powerball draw and find those in pic 4 and pic 3 SHORTLY AFTER THE DRAW I MIGHT ADD..also it will take a little while but you will get every pic 4 combo you can make ..I am trying to find the KEY TO THE ENGINE...
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You can put a gaming patent on it with the U.S. Patent Office, be aware that a competior can rip off your entire system except for 5% of it. In other words, all they have to do is change it a little bit and can claim it as theirs. I've been done this road before with a jewelry design. Believe me the big guns have all the bases covered against the little guy.