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I am going to try to change the rules about annonymity...

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Posted: March 13, 2007, 9:41 pm - IP Logged

We all play to win and I hope to someday..You have 6 months to get things straight and if you win a ton you can pick up your check on your way out of town like I will..Good luck MegaWinner and to everyone else..I welcome the problem of having to much money...Oh yeah......

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    When I win my jackpot, I will seek out other jackpot winners and try to get a law passed that would allow jackpot and 2nd prize winners to claim their winnings through an attorney or proxy in ALL states.  I know the game's rules are the ultimate say but there has to be some sort of change to this rule.  I know the games want a name and face attached to the winner to preserve the integrity of the game, so I say attach the proxy or attorney's name and face to the winnings for the public to see.

    Just require that the actual winner give the attorney or proxy a statement to be read at the press conference.  This would save the winners MUCH headache of unwanted media attention, possible danger, ungrateful relatives and friends, scammers, and the gazillions of people asking for handouts.

    I know I posted a thread similiar to this, I felt this warranted it's own thread.

     

    Whaddya think?  Do I have a shot? 

    Good luck on finding previous jackpot winners who don't want to be found.  Why would anyone who won a lottery jackpot and managed to fade out of sight want to come forward and bring attention to themselves by trying to pass a law that would allow them to remain anonymous?

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: March 14, 2007, 12:12 am - IP Logged

      Good luck on finding previous jackpot winners who don't want to be found.  Why would anyone who won a lottery jackpot and managed to fade out of sight want to come forward and bring attention to themselves by trying to pass a law that would allow them to remain anonymous?

      Good point, RJOh.

      MegaWinner, in the OP of this thread, you said,

      "When I win my jackpot, I will seek out other jackpot winners and try to get a law passed that would allow jackpot and 2nd prize winners to claim their winnings through an attorney or proxy in ALL states."

       If you're that passionate about it, why wait til you win your jackpot? ('just in case' it doesn't happen).

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

      Lep

      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        Posted: March 14, 2007, 2:22 am - IP Logged

        Someone once brought this up before and my answer was that it's possible to fight this in court. However, this was the scene I pictured (I'm editing for the sake of brevity)

        You get a team of lawyers to challenge the constitutionality of the lottery rules.

        You fight the lottery all the way to Supreme Court for your right to remain anonymous.

        You win your batte.

        You are invited to appear on the Today Show.

        You are invited to appear on Larry King Live.

        Your picture appears on the cover of several Law Review publications.

        You are now the most famous person who won a case against a state lottery for the right to remain anonymous.  Smiley

         

        Good Luck.  Just keep in mind that, no matter how rich you become, the world doesn't revolve around you, and never will.

        Should we assume you never heard of Roe v Wade?

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          Posted: March 14, 2007, 2:44 am - IP Logged

          Should we assume you never heard of Roe v Wade?

          My first reaction was...huh?  KY Floyd, you can assume anything you want.  You usually do anyway. 

          (1) You have no sense of humor. 

          (2) Roe vs Wade had nothing to do with the lottery.

          (3) The name of the woman who was identified only as "Jane Roe" is well known.  (at least to me)

           

          No excuse, but I need to get up in 4 hours...to be continued.

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            Posted: March 14, 2007, 8:55 am - IP Logged

            Good luck on finding previous jackpot winners who don't want to be found.  Why would anyone who won a lottery jackpot and managed to fade out of sight want to come forward and bring attention to themselves by trying to pass a law that would allow them to remain anonymous?

            I thought about this too.  I figure I would try to get in contact with them through a lawyer.  Also, I failed to mention that we would try to fight this fight behind closed doors.  I don't know what the rules are regarding a group of people trying to get a law passed (not changed, as there is no such law on the books as of now regarding lotteries in most states) and remaining annonymous while doing so, but I would hope that the battle could be fought by our lawyers and we could remain annonymous through them.

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              Posted: March 14, 2007, 10:29 am - IP Logged

              I remember either in Fla where I use to live or in Ky where I live now someone who hit a big jackpot sent thier lawyer to get the money..I have no idea how they did it but would like to..

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                Posted: March 14, 2007, 10:47 am - IP Logged

                There's a post here on the board about someone in Oklahoma who won a few months ago (Powerball?) and remained anonymous.

                A very generic press release was put out about how the winner declined to hold a press conference but encouraged everyone to play  because they too might win.

                Rundown99 made the point about if you want to be anonymous, play in a state that allows it.

                Now I'm wondering if you played in one of those states, if you'd have to disclose anything publicly in your home state if it's not an "anonymous" state. Would whatever lottery you hit insist on sending a PR piece to your home town newspaper, for instance?

                Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                Lep

                There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                  Posted: March 14, 2007, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

                  One way to stay anonymous is to join a lottery pool. Everyone that's interested in such things have heard of an office or a factory lottery pool winning a jackpot, but I doubt if anyone ever remembers who was in it.  Besides being in a lottery pool increases your odds of winning something and if a jackpot is won it dilutes the notoriety as well as the winnings for everyone.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: March 14, 2007, 1:02 pm - IP Logged

                    One way to stay anonymous is to join a lottery pool. Everyone that's interested in such things have heard of an office or a factory lottery pool winning a jackpot, but I doubt if anyone ever remembers who was in it.  Besides being in a lottery pool increases your odds of winning something and if a jackpot is won it dilutes the notoriety as well as the winnings for everyone.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      Posted: March 14, 2007, 2:53 pm - IP Logged

                      There's a post here on the board about someone in Oklahoma who won a few months ago (Powerball?) and remained anonymous.

                      A very generic press release was put out about how the winner declined to hold a press conference but encouraged everyone to play  because they too might win.

                      Rundown99 made the point about if you want to be anonymous, play in a state that allows it.

                      Now I'm wondering if you played in one of those states, if you'd have to disclose anything publicly in your home state if it's not an "anonymous" state. Would whatever lottery you hit insist on sending a PR piece to your home town newspaper, for instance?

                      I would love to do that but it is not feasible for me to do so right now.  I would have to drive almost 2 hours to play in Maryland just to have that option.  I mean, don't get me wrong, If I were already headed in that direction then it would be a no brainer, i'd play my tickets in Maryland.  But as it is right now, I just can't see spending $30 bucks on gas and about $24 bucks on tolls (both ways) just to play $5-10 bucks worth of MM tickets.

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                        Posted: March 14, 2007, 4:11 pm - IP Logged

                        My first reaction was...huh?  KY Floyd, you can assume anything you want.  You usually do anyway. 

                        (1) You have no sense of humor. 

                        (2) Roe vs Wade had nothing to do with the lottery.

                        (3) The name of the woman who was identified only as "Jane Roe" is well known.  (at least to me)

                         

                        No excuse, but I need to get up in 4 hours...to be continued.

                        1. I've got a great sense of humor. I find megawinner's idea  of getting a bunch of past lottery winners together to wage a battle for anonymity almost hysterical.

                        2. Roe v Wade has nothing to do with the lottery but everything to do with being party to (arguably) the most famous case in the history of SCOTUS, while remaining mostly anonymous.

                        3. The real identity of "Roe" is well known now because she chose to give up her anonymity many years after the case was decided. 

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                          1. I've got a great sense of humor. I find megawinner's idea  of getting a bunch of past lottery winners together to wage a battle for anonymity almost hysterical.

                          2. Roe v Wade has nothing to do with the lottery but everything to do with being party to (arguably) the most famous case in the history of SCOTUS, while remaining mostly anonymous.

                          3. The real identity of "Roe" is well known now because she chose to give up her anonymity many years after the case was decided. 

                          I just got home and I'm too beat from work to write a long comparison, but you've got

                           

                          (a) a case about a woman's right to choose control of her own body (in Roe's case she claimed she was raped & later retracted) and reproductive organs...or if you are pro-life, the fight to protect the unborn, who cannot speak for themselves.

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                          (b) a case where a person who plays a game and wins a lot of money wants to keep his name out of the paper.

                          Duh? Is there any similarity? There is also a time difference of 30+ years.  How many of us had personal computers in 1973?  Cable?  Cell phones?  The internet? (that's right - there was no worldwide web)  I could do something today in Florida and someone in Kazakhstan tonight would be able to read about it. 

                          I was a victim of a violent crime, so I understand the need to protect the identity of a witness.  I don't think there's quite enough interest in passing a bill to protect a guy who happens to get lucky one night when he stops for a six pack and shouts "give me one of them quick picks, Buddy."

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                            Posted: March 14, 2007, 8:45 pm - IP Logged

                            There's a post here on the board about someone in Oklahoma who won a few months ago (Powerball?) and remained anonymous.

                            A very generic press release was put out about how the winner declined to hold a press conference but encouraged everyone to play  because they too might win.

                            Rundown99 made the point about if you want to be anonymous, play in a state that allows it.

                            Now I'm wondering if you played in one of those states, if you'd have to disclose anything publicly in your home state if it's not an "anonymous" state. Would whatever lottery you hit insist on sending a PR piece to your home town newspaper, for instance?

                            I read Oklahoma either has changed or is changing that.

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                              Posted: March 14, 2007, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

                              First, I play the lottery because I want to win.  Secondly I know most of the rules of the lottery games I play.  Third, I do not "whine"?  Fourth, I did not "assume they are going to get killed, abducted, or taken to the cleaners if they win". 

                              My whole reason for doing such a thing would be to avoid any forseeable problems that may arise no matter how big or small.  And just because I want to remain annonymous does not mean I think the world revolves around me, thats reaching.

                              Also, what you don't hear about is the "family" and 'friends" that will stop at no end to try and get a piece of your pie.  How many people would actaully report something like that or want that to be in the public's eye?  I doubt very few.  So please don't assume its the other way around all the time.  

                              I bet that most lottery jackpot winners would in hindsight have chosen to remain annonymous had the choice been offered.

                              Its a no brainer.  Some protection is better than none.

                              Geez, there are synical people on this board.

                              Yes, you are whining, complaining, whatever........

                              Friends and family WILL find out, I promise you that, it's too big of a deal to NOT notice that Uncle Joe just moved into one of eleven houses he bought OR is driving one of twenty exotic cars he now owns..... would you not agree ?  People - especially family - TALK. That's the nature of relatives: it's what they do.

                              I know two jackpot winners, one of which I talk to about five times a year, and he has never had a problem with friends, family, or anybody, and he is rather well-known around here.  The second one I have not talked to in a few years, but mutual friends have, and they have told me he has not been hounded at all by anyone; nobody had called or shown up on his doorstep looking for a handout... but he does get some requests by mail to fund/donate to organizations.  Same as we do with all the credit card apps we ALL get several times a week - and we simply shred them.

                              I really think you are watching waaay too much TV - you are only seeing the stories of a small percentage of winners that can't say no, so they do what american society does best today - blame someone else for their own problems. 

                              There is NO 'curse of the lottery', there is only 'the curse of people that are clueless on how to handle life in general'. 

                              Now, if you want to discuss 'cynical', let's discuss why you are so incredibly concerned about something that most normal people should know how to handle.... that is, making good use of the word 'no', and learning how to hang up a telephone on someone, I do it to telemarketers all the time...    and I have done it to family, and I have done it to 'fair weather friends'.