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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: October 11, 2007, 5:14 pm - IP Logged

It rolled! Yee haw! I think it's waiting for me to win it!Cool

I was thinking it was waiting for me to drive over and give it a shot but last night I ran a simulation of playing these 102 lines and I only matched 3 three times and matched 2 twelve times.

22 31 36 42 45 46
08 15 37 38 40 44
11 14 25 39 41 43
07 29 30 34 35 47
01 03 20 23 24 27
04 06 17 26 32 33
05 13 16 19 21 28
02 05 24 26 39 44
06 27 40 43 45 47
01 21 29 38 41 42
02 16 33 34 36 37
03 12 28 32 35 46
07 10 17 23 25 31
11 12 15 18 20 22
09 27 29 41 44 46
23 28 34 39 42 47
05 12 20 33 43 45
09 25 35 36 38 40
14 15 22 30 31 32
01 11 16 24 30 37
06 09 13 14 18 19
03 08 18 31 38 46
04 08 11 44 45 47
02 07 15 19 35 42
01 10 13 28 34 40
08 25 39 43 46 47
20 26 35 40 44 45
26 32 38 39 42 43
01 17 20 22 23 26
05 09 15 28 32 34
11 23 29 30 33 41
04 08 17 33 37 41
17 19 29 31 36 37
04 07 19 21 27 30
03 21 22 24 25 27
05 09 12 16 24 36
03 06 12 16 18 21
13 30 41 43 44 47
07 32 33 36 42 45
04 22 28 31 39 40
14 19 23 27 37 46
07 11 16 24 25 29
02 08 12 15 20 26
04 10 13 34 35 38
01 09 13 14 17 21
21 23 38 44 45 47
10 26 29 37 42 46
10 18 34 36 39 40
04 12 14 15 28 43
27 30 31 33 35 41
01 08 11 13 20 32
06 07 09 10 22 24
18 25 34 40 41 43
12 27 33 37 42 45
30 31 39 44 46 47
02 24 26 28 29 35
09 13 20 22 32 38
05 10 15 23 25 36
01 06 10 17 18 21
04 06 11 14 16 19
03 05 07 14 16 18
02 08 19 29 40 43
03 05 11 28 31 46
08 32 41 42 45 47
02 13 25 38 39 44
09 15 16 21 34 37
03 04 20 22 35 36
10 12 14 23 27 33
01 02 17 18 19 26
05 23 27 35 42 45
16 32 39 41 44 46
26 28 37 40 43 47
08 13 19 22 25 34
15 17 18 21 30 33
11 20 24 30 36 38
10 12 14 17 24 31
28 30 33 38 42 47
03 05 20 40 41 44
25 32 34 36 43 45
01 29 31 35 37 46
03 04 06 12 27 29
11 15 16 21 22 23
07 13 14 24 26 39
04 05 08 17 18 19
04 21 27 39 44 45
13 26 31 33 46 47
10 22 24 34 36 43
17 32 38 40 41 42
05 06 11 18 28 35
08 12 25 29 30 37
01 06 10 19 20 23
20 35 37 39 40 46
19 21 22 27 43 47
01 24 31 33 36 38
11 30 32 34 41 42
05 06 07 28 44 45
03 06 07 14 15 23
13 15 18 25 26 29
02 09 14 34 38 45
02 12 15 16 30 39
02 09 37 40 41 42
02 03 07 33 43 44

Would had hardly been worth the drive back to play again.

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    Posted: October 11, 2007, 5:40 pm - IP Logged

    Interesting that you didn't set a "round" number limit. Who knows, one of those 12 quick picks you would have won might have been the 6/6 match next time. 

      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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      Posted: October 11, 2007, 8:48 pm - IP Logged

      Interesting that you didn't set a "round" number limit. Who knows, one of those 12 quick picks you would have won might have been the 6/6 match next time. 

      What is a "round" number limit?
      Thinking of...

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        Posted: October 11, 2007, 10:13 pm - IP Logged

        lol i only played one quick pick too i wasn't feeling too lucky on wednesday

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          Posted: October 12, 2007, 11:57 pm - IP Logged

          What is a "round" number limit?
          Thinking of...

          A round number is one that ends in 0. You didn't make your limit 40, or 50, or 100 combos. You let your system exhaust out to 102. Most people use a multiple of 5 for their limits.

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            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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            Posted: October 13, 2007, 12:42 am - IP Logged

            A round number is one that ends in 0. You didn't make your limit 40, or 50, or 100 combos. You let your system exhaust out to 102. Most people use a multiple of 5 for their limits.

            A lot of play slips only have five boards, so a multiple of 5 would make sense but usually my system cycles and tries to use each number once each cycle so a 6/48 game might get eight combinations on its first cycle and less each addition cycle depending on the parameters I choose.

            I can always eliminate any extra combinations later if I want.

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              Posted: October 14, 2007, 12:21 am - IP Logged

              Interesting that you didn't set a "round" number limit. Who knows, one of those 12 quick picks you would have won might have been the 6/6 match next time. 

              Had I played that list for Saturday drawing it would only matched 3 twice but it would have matched 2 sixteen times. The performance of that list has convinced me that I don't need to drive to Indiana to lose. 

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                Posted: October 18, 2007, 11:47 am - IP Logged

                Had I played that list for Saturday drawing it would only matched 3 twice but it would have matched 2 sixteen times. The performance of that list has convinced me that I don't need to drive to Indiana to lose. 

                Estimated Jackpots:
                  Hoosier Lotto - $52 Million
                  Powerball - $26 Million
                  Next Drawing: 10/20/2007

                I went from bad to worst. Had I played that list for Wednesday drawing, it would have only matched 2 thirteen times and no match3 at all, that doesn't even match the normal odds of a hit. 

                Now I'm looking forward to  playing the Hoosier Lotto but I'm in no hurry because it looks like it will still have a large jackpot when ever I decide to drive to Indiana to give it a try.

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                  Posted: October 18, 2007, 5:35 pm - IP Logged
                  Estimated Jackpots:
                    Hoosier Lotto - $52 Million
                    Powerball - $26 Million
                    Next Drawing: 10/20/2007

                  I went from bad to worst. Had I played that list for Wednesday drawing, it would have only matched 2 thirteen times and no match3 at all, that doesn't even match the normal odds of a hit. 

                  Now I'm looking forward to  playing the Hoosier Lotto but I'm in no hurry because it looks like it will still have a large jackpot when ever I decide to drive to Indiana to give it a try.

                  Well, I decided to play all QP's for last night's draw. I played $45 worth. I won 10 free QP's and $3.

                  Gonna win.Big Smile

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                    Posted: October 19, 2007, 5:55 pm - IP Logged

                    Well, I decided to play all QP's for last night's draw. I played $45 worth. I won 10 free QP's and $3.

                    How did those results compare to what your program would have picked to play?

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                      Posted: October 19, 2007, 7:45 pm - IP Logged

                      How did those results compare to what your program would have picked to play?

                      Hard to say. My program is most concerned with a set most likely to get 6/6 which can cause some sets that would otherwise have won a lower tier prize be eliminated. It also chooses the sets that it considers good randomly. That's why I don't get upset even if I don't win anything using my system, as long as the 6/6 winner wouldn't be eliminated when I run the simulation. Just because a system's not hitting a lot of lower tier prizes doesn't necessarily mean it's not good. My program looks at set characteristics, so I know there will be some lower tier winning sets eliminated.

                      Gonna win.Big Smile

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                        Posted: October 19, 2007, 8:59 pm - IP Logged

                        Hard to say. My program is most concerned with a set most likely to get 6/6 which can cause some sets that would otherwise have won a lower tier prize be eliminated. It also chooses the sets that it considers good randomly. That's why I don't get upset even if I don't win anything using my system, as long as the 6/6 winner wouldn't be eliminated when I run the simulation. Just because a system's not hitting a lot of lower tier prizes doesn't necessarily mean it's not good. My program looks at set characteristics, so I know there will be some lower tier winning sets eliminated.

                        Aren't the odds of eliminating a 6/6 winners as remote as the odds of picking a 6/6 winners? 

                        My program also use parameters that cover 80% of past winners but I'm disappointed if it eliminates any winners at all, even a 3/6.  My program picked a 5/6 in the Ohio Super Lotto a few years back and even though it was only one number off from a 6/6, I was happy to get the win.  Heck I was happy to get a 4+0 MegaMillions winner a couple of months ago.

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                          Posted: October 19, 2007, 10:22 pm - IP Logged
                          Estimated Jackpots:
                            Hoosier Lotto - $52 Million
                            Powerball - $26 Million
                            Next Drawing: 10/20/2007

                          I went from bad to worst. Had I played that list for Wednesday drawing, it would have only matched 2 thirteen times and no match3 at all, that doesn't even match the normal odds of a hit. 

                          Now I'm looking forward to  playing the Hoosier Lotto but I'm in no hurry because it looks like it will still have a large jackpot when ever I decide to drive to Indiana to give it a try.

                          A static list is usually hot then cold then hot again like that. You can't expect the same degree of results each drawing. It may do 2/6s (or worse) several drawings in a row before dropping a 5/6 bomb

                          The odds of picking a 6/6 winner out of a few numbers (picking 6 from 48) is higher(harder) than eliminating the 6/6 winner from all possible combinations (removing other 6-number combinations). It is much easier to build the list with the winner, just create all possible combos. But now, how to filter out so many losers while leaving the winner in AND having an afforable list?

                          The first part ~ What makes the winner SO different than the losers, before the draw?   

                          The second part ~ as it stands (current odds and prize), if you had the cash, you could "buy" a win. No filter required. 

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                            Posted: October 19, 2007, 11:37 pm - IP Logged

                            A static list is usually hot then cold then hot again like that. You can't expect the same degree of results each drawing. It may do 2/6s (or worse) several drawings in a row before dropping a 5/6 bomb

                            The odds of picking a 6/6 winner out of a few numbers (picking 6 from 48) is higher(harder) than eliminating the 6/6 winner from all possible combinations (removing other 6-number combinations). It is much easier to build the list with the winner, just create all possible combos. But now, how to filter out so many losers while leaving the winner in AND having an afforable list?

                            The first part ~ What makes the winner SO different than the losers, before the draw?   

                            The second part ~ as it stands (current odds and prize), if you had the cash, you could "buy" a win. No filter required. 

                            When I play the lottery locally, I come up with a new list for each drawings because the combinations I pick are effected by the most recent winning numbers.  However when I travel to Indiana to play PB I usually play the same numbers for two drawings which is what I would probably do if I played the Hoosier Lotto.

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                              Posted: October 20, 2007, 3:57 pm - IP Logged

                              Aren't the odds of eliminating a 6/6 winners as remote as the odds of picking a 6/6 winners? 

                              My program also use parameters that cover 80% of past winners but I'm disappointed if it eliminates any winners at all, even a 3/6.  My program picked a 5/6 in the Ohio Super Lotto a few years back and even though it was only one number off from a 6/6, I was happy to get the win.  Heck I was happy to get a 4+0 MegaMillions winner a couple of months ago.

                              When I say "most concerned with 6/6", that is what I mean, but there are still plenty of sets that will win lower tier prizes. I have certain constant variables within the program that I change each drawing. Some have to do with certain characteristics of the most recent drawings, while some determine the "aggressiveness" of elimination of sets most likely not to be 6/6. I can make them less aggressive so more lower tier winning sets will remain, or I can make it more aggressive to have a better chance of getting 6/6, but in the process eliminating lower tier winning sets. 5/6 sets will usually still remain. There's usually a few 4/6 sets as well. I can get a lot of 2/6 and 3/6 sets if I want to, but I'm going after the jackpot.

                              Gonna win.Big Smile

                                 
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