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Posted: October 1, 2007, 3:39 pm - IP Logged

Haha you think out of the 1.5 million tickets (roughly 250k free plays were rewarded and the odds are about 1 in 7 to win a free play ticket, which equals 1.75 mil but we will say 1.5 million since there were so many low numbers) .  about 350k of them are duplicated combinations  ?? With that logic when these state lottos are hit there would be a lot more multiple winners in state lotteries. Listen this is probably a huge coincidence but the chances of this lotto having rolled 100 times is mind boggling.  The Hoosier lottery has taken many hits for its ineptitude and fraud, and with what we hear about RNG's these days it makes you wonder. I am not a conspiracy guy but somehow they got to make up all the lost income they lost with their dopey hoosier raffle!  And when these low birthday numbers show up and no one has the combinations after all this time it is just wacky.  Thanks for the insight though that you need to have 6 numbers to win the jackpot. I was about ready to drive to indianapolis with my 4 out of 6 ticket. 

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    Posted: October 1, 2007, 4:29 pm - IP Logged

    Haha you think out of the 1.5 million tickets (roughly 250k free plays were rewarded and the odds are about 1 in 7 to win a free play ticket, which equals 1.75 mil but we will say 1.5 million since there were so many low numbers) .  about 350k of them are duplicated combinations  ?? With that logic when these state lottos are hit there would be a lot more multiple winners in state lotteries. Listen this is probably a huge coincidence but the chances of this lotto having rolled 100 times is mind boggling.  The Hoosier lottery has taken many hits for its ineptitude and fraud, and with what we hear about RNG's these days it makes you wonder. I am not a conspiracy guy but somehow they got to make up all the lost income they lost with their dopey hoosier raffle!  And when these low birthday numbers show up and no one has the combinations after all this time it is just wacky.  Thanks for the insight though that you need to have 6 numbers to win the jackpot. I was about ready to drive to indianapolis with my 4 out of 6 ticket. 

    It's already been determined mathematically that it is possible for this game to roll as many times as it has. I've already posted the explanation several times in other threads so I'm not going to bother here. Also, you haven't given the source that SPECIFICALLY and OFFICIALLY states that 1.5 million(non-free) tickets were sold. Also keep in mind that I used the phrase "closer to 9%", I didn't say that the number of combinations sold were PRECISELY 9%. You should have been able to figure that out. Come on man, this is a message board. As far as any type of malice by the Hoosier Lottery that you're refering to, none of the information you're giving is credibal. You're just rambling. The fact is: You don't know what the sales figures are, therefore you cannot sufficiently say that there are non-legitimate actions occuring on part by the Hoosier Lottery. I would like this thread to discuss a jackpot game, not conspiracies about pariticular lotteries.&

    Gonna win.Big Smile

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      Posted: October 1, 2007, 6:29 pm - IP Logged

      Using the odds and number of winners for the last drawing, I calculate the total number of tickets were ~2,300,000 - 3% free ones =~2,231,000 sold
      254637 (free tickets) X odds of 1:7.31 = ~ 1,858,850 tickets
      57 (5/6) X odds of 1:48,696 = ~2,775,672 tickets

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: October 3, 2007, 10:31 am - IP Logged

        I wouldnt use the 5 out of 6 multiple since they were all birthday numbers and that usually means more winners at that level.  I would say roughly 1.8-2.0 million combinations were out there for that roll. And consisently for the last few months I would say about 1.5-1.8 million combos per roll were out there.  So the chances have been about 1 in 7 or 1 in 8 that each roll the lotto would get hit.  And here we are almost 100 rolls later that it hasnt. Not impossible that it hasnt but pretty amazing none the less. I think Saturday will finally be the day as it hits that pyschologically magical 50 million mark. If ever there was a time for a syndicate to scoop up all the combos this would be it! 

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          Posted: October 3, 2007, 10:48 am - IP Logged

          I wouldnt use the 5 out of 6 multiple since they were all birthday numbers and that usually means more winners at that level.  I would say roughly 1.8-2.0 million combinations were out there for that roll. And consisently for the last few months I would say about 1.5-1.8 million combos per roll were out there.  So the chances have been about 1 in 7 or 1 in 8 that each roll the lotto would get hit.  And here we are almost 100 rolls later that it hasnt. Not impossible that it hasnt but pretty amazing none the less. I think Saturday will finally be the day as it hits that pyschologically magical 50 million mark. If ever there was a time for a syndicate to scoop up all the combos this would be it! 

          Can a syndicate get enough terminal time to play all the possible combo?  After  a  syndicate took over three seven-elven terminals in Virgina a few years ago and won its jackpot most states created rules to make it impossible for that to happen again.

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            RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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            Posted: October 4, 2007, 3:31 am - IP Logged
            Estimated Jackpots:
              Hoosier Lotto - $50 Million
              Powerball - $15 Million
              Next Drawing: 10/6/2007

            And it continues to roll

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              Posted: October 4, 2007, 3:46 am - IP Logged

              Haha you think out of the 1.5 million tickets (roughly 250k free plays were rewarded and the odds are about 1 in 7 to win a free play ticket, which equals 1.75 mil but we will say 1.5 million since there were so many low numbers) .  about 350k of them are duplicated combinations  ?? With that logic when these state lottos are hit there would be a lot more multiple winners in state lotteries. Listen this is probably a huge coincidence but the chances of this lotto having rolled 100 times is mind boggling.  The Hoosier lottery has taken many hits for its ineptitude and fraud, and with what we hear about RNG's these days it makes you wonder. I am not a conspiracy guy but somehow they got to make up all the lost income they lost with their dopey hoosier raffle!  And when these low birthday numbers show up and no one has the combinations after all this time it is just wacky.  Thanks for the insight though that you need to have 6 numbers to win the jackpot. I was about ready to drive to indianapolis with my 4 out of 6 ticket. 

              All one has to do is just check the 0 straight winners everyday on the pic 4 and it becomes obvious. Oh yeah, check those big pic 3 payouts. Does someone have the time to go back 1 year and see how many straight pic3 and 4 winners they have had all year; the message is in the stats. Who know, it wouldnt surprise me to see this go for 3 years--no kidding.

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                Posted: October 4, 2007, 5:34 am - IP Logged

                50 mil i'm gonna go half quick pick and half my numbers saturday is the night it ends

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                  Posted: October 4, 2007, 10:54 am - IP Logged

                  All one has to do is just check the 0 straight winners everyday on the pic 4 and it becomes obvious. Oh yeah, check those big pic 3 payouts. Does someone have the time to go back 1 year and see how many straight pic3 and 4 winners they have had all year; the message is in the stats. Who know, it wouldnt surprise me to see this go for 3 years--no kidding.

                  For 10/03/2007
                  Daily 3 Evening 65 straight
                  Daily 3 Midday 16 straight
                  Daily 4 Evening 5 straight
                  Daily 4 Midday 0 straight

                  Just check one day and multiply the results by 365 days and you'll be close.
                   pick3=365 x 81
                   pick4=365 x 4

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: October 4, 2007, 11:03 am - IP Logged

                    50 mil i'm gonna go half quick pick and half my numbers saturday is the night it ends

                    I was going to try that for real with $100 until I tried it on paper and lost.  I would have won 20 free tickets and a few dollars but not enough to travel back to Indiana to play again.

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                      Posted: October 4, 2007, 12:04 pm - IP Logged

                      I have been saying all along this will get hit once it hits $50 million.  I mean those pick 3 and pick 4 stats are horrible. This RNG is obviously working hard to get the lottery director their bonus for the year.  We are all suckers to keep playing this garbage.

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                        I have been saying all along this will get hit once it hits $50 million.  I mean those pick 3 and pick 4 stats are horrible. This RNG is obviously working hard to get the lottery director their bonus for the year.  We are all suckers to keep playing this garbage.

                        Even if it does get hit at $50M, so what? Somebody got lucky and had all 6 numbers. Also, I already said in my previous post that it is possible for this game to roll as many times as it has regardless of any outside intervention, so the whole "the RNG is working hard to get the lottery director her bonus" statement isn't very credibal. If you want to consider yourself a sucker, then by all means do so. I'm just a guy playing the lottery. Also, if you're going to bash a lottery, not to mention one held by the state you're not even living in, then it's going to take a lot more than rambling and a smorgasborg of kiddy excuses to convince its players not to play. It comes down to this simple fact: You DON'T know what the sales figures are, therefore you CAN'T make the judgment of whether or not a game is being properly held. Geez people, either play the game or not, it's game for God's sake. Stop making up conspiracies for something so small and simple.

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                          I was going to try that for real with $100 until I tried it on paper and lost.  I would have won 20 free tickets and a few dollars but not enough to travel back to Indiana to play again.

                          RJ with the way this thing is going, if you had actually put your numbers in play, the outcome would have been different. I tell this to people when we play computerized keno, they say: "oh my gosh there are my numbers!" and I say "if you had played them they would have never shown."

                          I also think qutgnt may be right this thing may get hit at $50M, with a quick pick bought somewhere near South Bend,  nice round numbers.  I would buy qp's half and half. GLTAIAAI. (GOOD LUCK TO ALL IN AND AROUND INDIANA.)

                           Go Irish!


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                            Posted: October 4, 2007, 4:48 pm - IP Logged

                            business is picking up now the news about the lotto is hitting the news on every channell it's gonna get hit this saturday i'm tryna think of some awkward gas stations outside of indianapolis or the outskirts to buy a couple tickets and i'll buy some in indianapolis too though

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                              Posted: October 4, 2007, 6:11 pm - IP Logged

                              RJ with the way this thing is going, if you had actually put your numbers in play, the outcome would have been different. I tell this to people when we play computerized keno, they say: "oh my gosh there are my numbers!" and I say "if you had played them they would have never shown."

                              I also think qutgnt may be right this thing may get hit at $50M, with a quick pick bought somewhere near South Bend,  nice round numbers.  I would buy qp's half and half. GLTAIAAI. (GOOD LUCK TO ALL IN AND AROUND INDIANA.)

                               Go Irish!

                              If those numbers had won, I would have been wishing I had played them but fortunately that happens very rarely, 98% of the times I don't play, I save money.

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