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# Maybe this could work: Just trying to help. LP could win Jackpots

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Honduras
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Here it goes:

For 10 dollars a month from all 50,000 members there will be 17,500 dollars to play EVERY SINGLE DAY...How many predictions there were for sunday? around 5,000...

Now i have noticed that there is like 1 sometimes 2, 4/5's from LP predictors EVERY week, i've seen it....Now i wil say that most Pick5's are a Pick5/39, is not a Pick5/35 but Pick5/39...Remember in my blog when i told you that Pick4 a permutation game can be viewed like a combination pick4...That instead of viewing Pick4/0-9 you could view Pick4 as a Pick4/25 or Pick4/30...Here is an example:

Permutation           Combination Numbers...

Numbers

1735                             1,8,11,15 = 1+7+3+5

3814                             3,11,12,15= 3+8+1+4

9993                             9,18,27,30 = 9+9+9+3

4947                             4,13,17,24 = 4+9+4+7

6146                             6,7,11,17 = 6+1+4+6

Now that you have that clear here is the tricky part...If Lp predictors get 1 or 2, 4/5's on a Pick5/39 every week, how much MORE will they get if is a: Pick4/30 or Pick4/25...Remember Pick4/30 is 1 number less than Pick5/30...So how much jackpots wouldn't they win every week? And i'll say like: 14 of them every week...LOok many times pick4 is a Pick4/25 or PIck4/20....Do you see what i am saying now...

14 jackpots x 48 weeks in 1 year = 672....

That's only with around 5,000 predictions every day & 10 dollars a month...But remember there is 17,500 dollars available to play the Pick4 so if we triplicate the bet and make it 15,000 out of the 17,500 because is Pick4 and not Pick5? It will be 14 x 3= 42 so 42x 48 weeks in 1 year= 2,016..2,016 x 10 years =  20,160 close to the 50,000 members...That's only with 10 dollars a month...And that's only 5,000 dollars that you win...100 divided by 10 = 10....So 10 x 5,000 dollars = 50,000 dollars...

My bad i made a miscalculation i was under the assumption that Pick4 pays 10,000 dollars i forgot it pays 5,000 dollars...But is not that bad...After all i didn't LIE...But i wasn't all incorrect either because if the number of predictions made everyday WERE HALF of 5,000 we would have achieve the 100,000 dollars mark....So is not completly my fault...And again I DIDN'T LIE...And this is NOT A LOTTERY...You are actually PLAYING the Pick4 games...Not only that if it was more than 14 jackpots won it could have an effect...But looking at the bright side...the odds are 1 in 2 and there are some jackpots that pay 50,000 dollars we were just shy of 100,000 dollars...

I know you are saying is 20,000 not 25,000 the half...If it was for 11 years it will have been: 22,176 for 12 years: 24,192...close to half...so what are you telling me...

The only problem with this Theory is that it puts pressure on the predictors...

Now that i think about it i don't think i was all that incorrect and we could achieve the 100,000 dollars limit in 10 or 12 years and thus be 1 in 2 odds...I'll explain why...

remember the i said that one of the problem is that if we could shortened the number of predictions for 1 day from around 5,000 to half of it [2,500] we could get to the 100,000 limit...Well there might be a way...

One thing i noticed from the predictors that won the 4/5 once or twice a week is that they are a small group & the same people...They are like 10 of them but for the sake of argument we are only going to use 50...4forme said that there is like 100 predictors for Pick5...If we take only half of the predictors meaning 50 we will have "half" of the predictions...

NOT ONLY THAT...But because we are talking about Pick4/20 or Pick4/25 and not Pick5/39 one predictor could do the job of 30 predictors...So i was not incorrect at all...

So it is possible to achieve the 100,000 dollars mark, making it 1 in 2 odd of winning 100,000 dollars which is equivalent to winning a Pick5 jackpot...

But again it all hinges on the Predictors....The problem is that it puts too much pressure on the predictors...

Tell me, can you IMAGINE a Pick4/20...

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Pumpi said:Now that i think about it i don't think i was all that incorrect and we could achieve the 100,000 dollars limit in 10 or 12 years and thus be 1 in 2 odds.

hmmm 10 to 12 years is a mighty long time dont you think.oh and i figure by then we will be up to maybe a half million members if not more.so how would you revise or update all your data based on these perspective changes and also your predictions.

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Here is what i mean...This is wisconsin Pick4's..from june 22 to july 6, 2009...

2390= 2,5,14,24

8651= 8,14,19,20

7591= 7,12,21,22

3955= 3,12,17,22

0042= 10,20,24,26

3478= 3,7,14,22

7509= 7,12,22,31

9889=9,17,25,34

4940=4,13,17,27

1073= 1,11,18,21

4443= 4,8,12,15

7866= 7,15,21,27

9737= 9,16,19,26

9038= 9,19,22,30

5485= 5,9,17,22

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

Honduras
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There isn't a lottery in the world that's worried that you will out smart them and predict the winning numbers for any lottery.

The lotteries will change their games when they see fit to not because of you or anyone else. They usually change the games when sales fail to exceed their projected profit margin or players lose interest in the games. All lottery drawing are designed to make money in fact they welcome anyone to try and defeat them.

Most of the lottery's in the USA make big money off of scratch offs, not pick 3 and 4 and other games.

While pick 3 - 4 and 5 games have their place, the lottery isn't worried that someone will break them because they have a cut of point where they won't allow any pick 3/4 number to be bet to the point of breaking down their financial structure they have a cap on the pay out amount. Most USA pick 5 and 6 games have a clause that say if more people than the expected amount win they will share the prize equally so if 50 people get the numbers correct they will split the pot.

The lottery doesn't need to rig the games they are already set up with a good profit margin over the long haul they will always come out the winner. Some people get lucky and win no big deal to the lottery.

Your paranoia about posting numbers for any game is unfounded no matter how much you think they are somehow keeping track of you or anything you post they don't care about anyone of us they are people who only care about themselves and their family's and keeping their job. Outside of working for the lottery they have no interest in the lottery since employees and their immediate family are not permitted to play the lottery.

You can post predictions from now till the end of time the only person affected by it is you. Odds are you won't do any better than anyone else on here. Your the idea man you should give it a shot it might help you to get over the feeling of being paranoid about it.

Is hard to talk to somebody who; if they broke into his home and didn't rob anything but change the fonts of his lotion cream will not noticed it, is hard to talk to people like that..

Let's go to the 80's...Back in the 80's they didn't have that stuff they got now about global warming and about been green....So if you was someone living in the 80's who invented an automobil that will run on water or an abundant fuel, the oil cartel will try and shut you down or buy you out...

fastforward to today...THE LOTTERY MAKES MORE MONEY IN THE USA THAN WHAT THE OIL CARTEL DID IN THE USA...WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU...Most countries lotteries are the same as the USA...so if you post a threat to the USA you post a threat to all of them....

The lottery is a cartel....the only ones that make more money than the lottery is the forex...The forex is a cartel...Oil is a cartel...Drug is a cartel...The lottery is a cartel...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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well its way past my bedtime.....

pumpi are you trying to tell me that sweet lil old lady at the corner gas station who sold me lottery tickets is part of the cartel?

Honduras
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Pumpi said:Now that i think about it i don't think i was all that incorrect and we could achieve the 100,000 dollars limit in 10 or 12 years and thus be 1 in 2 odds.

hmmm 10 to 12 years is a mighty long time dont you think.oh and i figure by then we will be up to maybe a half million members if not more.so how would you revise or update all your data based on these perspective changes and also your predictions.

my theoretical system works for 50,000 members...

if LP got to be 500,000 you compartmentalize it, meaning 500,000 divided by 50,000 = 10 so there will be 10 groups of 50,000 members...Each member still pays the same 100 dollars a month...The only problem is that there is not enough predictors...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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I just saw one of them camuflauged, those eyes, they dissappeared....

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Now that was Plan A, and Plan B...Listen to this Theoretical Plan C...Is going after scratchoffs and is the only way to bring down the scratchoffs empire...Remember in each state there is like 5 lotteries while in each state there is like 40 different types of scratchoffs...

Plan C...Again is the only way to go after scratchoffs...if you don't use this plan, YOU WILL NEVER CRACK THE SCRATCHOFFS EMPIRE...

There is 77,000 members in LP...If each of them were to contribute 100 dollars for 1 year it will be: 92 million dollars close to 100 million dollars...Now Assume or imagine if LP could raise 3 times that or 4 times that, which will be 300 million or 400 million dollars...

400 million dollars placed in the bank at 6% is and should be 25 million dollars EVERY YEAR...

Well you can use those 25 millions that you get every year and go after 1 particular game of scratchoffs in the entire state, specially states that are small and don't have lots of retailers...And everytime you win a scratchoff you "Raffle it" between the 77,000 members...LOL...Which will be 1 in 77,000 every 3 month as oppose to 1 in 600 million for scratchoffs by going alone, remember you are going after 1 scratchoff game and if you could save the the scratchoffs that you win in 1 year, which should be 3 or 4 of them and raffle it later in the year, then it will be: 77,000 divided by 4 = 19,250, so each year you are going to have 1 in 19,000 odds of winning a scratchoffs instead of 1 in 600 million, and this is going to be every single year, all by the 100 dollars a month for 1 year or whatever amount that you contributed.....Scratchoffs to win one really has an odd of 1 in 600 million surpassing Powerball's 1 in 200 million...Why? because of the mechanics of Scratchoffs, when you are playing scratchoffs you are playing blindfolded you can't see patterns in scratchoffs all scratchoffs look the same...That's why the odds is like 1 in 600 million....

I am not saying we are going to do that, all i am showing you is how we can bring down the scratchoff empire...

Texas has a 10 dollar scratchoff called "Set for Life" that pays \$250,000 a year for 20 years...But texas is a big state, i am talking about small states with smaller retailers....

Again this is Plan C...This is my last plan...

Again, this is the only, let me repeat it again, THIS IS THE ONLY way to crack the Scratchoff empire and win scratchoffs at will....

Just remember something...The lottery you can win it at will, but scratchoffs you CAN'T WIN THEM AT WILL...If you win a scratchoff is because you are lucky...

the only problem with Plan C, is the taxes...They take too much dam taxes...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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But there should be an association of 77,000 members not talking about an LP just volunteers anyone who should contribute \$100 or whatever amount for 1 year, and the 400 million collected be placed in the bank and the 6% earned interest or 25 million dollars every year, and they should go after scratchoffs and the ones they win, they summon the poorest or people in affliction and raffle the scratchoffs among them...Because tell me how a disabled person with no legs supposes to win the scratchoffs? the answer is Never....How sad is that, or how about people that work 3 jobs...They should have a chance....

so they should do this either secretly or not...Because honestly the lottery like how i said before the lottery doesn't know how to distinguished between the players....The lottery is too random too blind, now imagine Scratchoffs....

Just remember something don't forget there is only 4 ways to be super rich in the USA which is the Richest Country in the world...They are: you do good in the stock market, you become a celebrity, you WIN THE LOTTERY, or you marry someone super rich...

just don't forget that...

And that was the USA now imagine other countries who are not as wealthy as the USA...See what i am saying....

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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But there should be an association of 77,000 members not talking about an LP just volunteers anyone who should contribute \$100 or whatever amount for 1 year, and the 400 million collected be placed in the bank and the 6% earned interest or 25 million dollars every year, and they should go after scratchoffs and the ones they win, they summon the poorest or people in affliction and raffle the scratchoffs among them...Because tell me how a disabled person with no legs supposes to win the scratchoffs? the answer is Never....How sad is that, or how about people that work 3 jobs...They should have a chance....

so they should do this either secretly or not...Because honestly the lottery like how i said before the lottery doesn't know how to distinguished between the players....The lottery is too random too blind, now imagine Scratchoffs....

Just remember something don't forget there is only 4 ways to be super rich in the USA which is the Richest Country in the world...They are: you do good in the stock market, you become a celebrity, you WIN THE LOTTERY, or you marry someone super rich...

just don't forget that...

And that was the USA now imagine other countries who are not as wealthy as the USA...See what i am saying....

Where is the Dam American Flag when you need it, why is it not waving...

Where is the I am proud to be an american...

Whatever...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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Big John says. You don't hit the number. The number hits you!!!!

I'm not Big John, I'm Four4me, Big John's a friend.
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my theoretical system works for 50,000 members...

if LP got to be 500,000 you compartmentalize it, meaning 500,000 divided by 50,000 = 10 so there will be 10 groups of 50,000 members...Each member still pays the same 100 dollars a month...The only problem is that there is not enough predictors...

Are you talking about playing \$5 million a month on all the daily predictions or buying a combination of QPs and \$20 scratch-offs?

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Are you talking about playing \$5 million a month on all the daily predictions or buying a combination of QPs and \$20 scratch-offs?

I don't know what you mean stack47....Nowhere i mention playing quick picks...

If you read the whole thing you will noticed that there is a: Plan A, a Plan B, and a Plan C...And a Theoretical idea/plan...

They are all theoretical plans...They serve as back up plans....

In Plan C i was talking about going after \$10 dollars & \$20 dollars scratchoffs not all scratchoff though only 1 scratchoff game per year...

In plan A, i was talking about going after Pick5 using LP daily predictions, on Plan B i was talking about going against any lottery using LP predictions....

on the theoretical plan i was talking about going after Pick4 and on Plan C i was talking about going after scratchoffs only...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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But there should be an association of 77,000 members not talking about an LP just volunteers anyone who should contribute \$100 or whatever amount for 1 year, and the 400 million collected be placed in the bank and the 6% earned interest or 25 million dollars every year, and they should go after scratchoffs and the ones they win, they summon the poorest or people in affliction and raffle the scratchoffs among them...Because tell me how a disabled person with no legs supposes to win the scratchoffs? the answer is Never....How sad is that, or how about people that work 3 jobs...They should have a chance....

so they should do this either secretly or not...Because honestly the lottery like how i said before the lottery doesn't know how to distinguished between the players....The lottery is too random too blind, now imagine Scratchoffs....

Just remember something don't forget there is only 4 ways to be super rich in the USA which is the Richest Country in the world...They are: you do good in the stock market, you become a celebrity, you WIN THE LOTTERY, or you marry someone super rich...

just don't forget that...

And that was the USA now imagine other countries who are not as wealthy as the USA...See what i am saying....

Think of those 25 million from 6% of the 400 millions going after the scratchoffs as the ambulance....

Again where is the I am proud to be an American where is the American flag when you need it? is only 100 or 200 dollars a month for 1 year, to us is a lot but to others who can afford it is nothing....

again where is this Association? Where is el "Zorro" where is "Batman" where is "Superman"....or they just make movies just to make movies...

The Forex trades: 1.6 Trillion dollars EVERY day, that´s more than the GDP of the Carribbean Central America, COMBINED. Enough to feed every crook out there for centuries...To all Geniuses & Powers Countries of the World the Planet needs breakthroughs in all Medicine, Veterinary, Biology related fields, Psychology, Population Psychology/Sociology..They need to genetically ingeneer new plants species/types to give more variety of plants and thus have more resources for combating diseases¨

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I don't know what you mean stack47....Nowhere i mention playing quick picks...

If you read the whole thing you will noticed that there is a: Plan A, a Plan B, and a Plan C...And a Theoretical idea/plan...

They are all theoretical plans...They serve as back up plans....

In Plan C i was talking about going after \$10 dollars & \$20 dollars scratchoffs not all scratchoff though only 1 scratchoff game per year...

In plan A, i was talking about going after Pick5 using LP daily predictions, on Plan B i was talking about going against any lottery using LP predictions....

on the theoretical plan i was talking about going after Pick4 and on Plan C i was talking about going after scratchoffs only...

Pick-4 straight pays \$5000; do you really want to share that with 49,999 LP members?

I haven't seen that many 5 of 5 Pick-5 winners to justify the play either and besides most Pick-5 jackpots are under \$300.000. It seems like you are forgetting that someone would have the huge headache of managing the money and the nightmare of actually placing all the bets. And if I'm going to spend a 100 bucks a month on lottery games, I'd like to have a fighting chance to win a substantial amount. A \$200 million Mega Millions or Powerball jackpot divided 50,000 ways will only give all of us about \$4000 before taxes.

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