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Are we fooled to believe that there's a system?

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Posted: February 6, 2010, 12:02 am - IP Logged

 Nope, I am not being paranoid.

 This is what I read from Maxim magazine years ago. It claimed that the system indeed exists. But, lottery guys don't just sit there and watch their system gets broken into. They constantly work on the 'system' to prevent anyone from having unfair advantage.

 Personally, I don't buy it. Maxim and FHM (now defunct) make up a lot of crap. Truth is, it's a matter of statistics. When someone really discovers the system, all the authority has to do is to up the matrix. And take a look at Italian lottery. The odd is whole lot more astronomical with more numbers in their matrix. But winners come up regularly despite the impossible odds.

 I can visualize the image that lottery guys laughing at the poor guys who's researching for the 'system' and don't have a life. But if we look at the winning numbers, it looks like there's some kind of pattern. Truth is, we are pattern-seeking animals and we tend to see patterns in things that are actually random.

 Like I said before, playing lottery is about dreams. It's kind of a drop of acid. As long as you are not obsessing with it, it's a harmless form of tripping. But doing stuff like obsessing with the system or number dreams (sadly, I still can't let go of my number dreams!) it will make your life a living hell.


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    Posted: February 6, 2010, 12:35 am - IP Logged

    Like I've wrote many times in the past, years ago.

    There is a system that can beat the game, even if the matrix is made harder to hit by the officials.

    It has to be what I coined...a "Morphing" system, where criteria is changing after every game. And that's where the problem lies for us humans at this point of evolution. The vast amount of tweaking needed to correctly predit the 6 numbers is unattainable to us. It's elusive because not only are there so many variables, but how to interpret them in such a fashion, as to allow all six numbers to appear, not once, but on a regular basis, thus qualifying as a "System". Once is lucky, twice is really lucky, but thrice is convincing.

    Most of us really do try to change the criteria after a draw, and see if our tweaking will do any good. But we don't realize that it takes much more thinking.

    Fortunately, at times it's fun trying, but at the end, there are just as many variables and interpretations in the game as there are odds. Millions of them.

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      I do not believe a system exists today.  I do believe one will be developed and by someone who is a member of this site.  There are just too many of us working to achieve that goal not to be sucessful. 

      Nor do I believe 5th grade math will unravel the secret algorithym.  If adding and substracting would get the job done, Newton, Einstien, Hisenberg, Bohr, and a host of other great mathematicians would have discovered and published the proof.  This is not to say that math will not come into play at some point in the algorithym but math is not the first step.  We have to get "beyond the numbers".

      Now what "beyond the numbers" might mean is anybody's guess.  For me the answer might be found in Information Theory and that is what I am looking into.

      As far as obsessing about the lottory, I plead guilty to that.  Being retired, being winter with cold, rainy days, there isn't much for me to do except think about the lottory.  So why not?  Come Spring, I'll have my beehives to keep me occupied.

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        Posted: February 6, 2010, 1:32 am - IP Logged

        I really don't see how any system can predict what numbers will be drawn from a spinning wheel and balls.


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          Posted: February 6, 2010, 1:39 am - IP Logged

          I really don't see how any system can predict what numbers will be drawn from a spinning wheel and balls.

          Everything in life has a pattern to it. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

          It may be a vey complex pattern that is so beyond our understanding, it defies common sense. Who knows?

           

          Look at life itself. Given enough time, like billions of years, in a soup of potentials, basic amino acids can become complex, living and thinking creatures.

          Anything is possible....given enough time.

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            Posted: February 6, 2010, 2:46 am - IP Logged

            Everything in life has a pattern to it. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

            It may be a vey complex pattern that is so beyond our understanding, it defies common sense. Who knows?

             

            Look at life itself. Given enough time, like billions of years, in a soup of potentials, basic amino acids can become complex, living and thinking creatures.

            Anything is possible....given enough time.

            I made this several years ago, with one of my favorite quotes

             

             

            So true.

            Luck is  ** believing  ** you're lucky.” ~Tennessee Williams

            Money is neither my god nor my devil. It is a form of energy that tends to make us more of who we already are, whether it's greedy or loving.  ~ Dan Millman


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              Posted: February 6, 2010, 3:22 am - IP Logged

              Although there is no system because like Joker said we dont have the mental capacity, We still can play at a profit which is what it is all about. You have to remember that every lottery is different and is designed to take as much money as possible (for education,lol). Who knows if there is a fix, certainly the lottery owners are not going to tell the customers that. For instance, here in Illinois our draw machine is manipulated by the person who is pulling the draws. the first ball takes a second but the second ball takes 4 to 5 seconds. Did you get that, eh? Knowing when to play and when not to play is the key to success unless you know something I dont know. I think of it this way, The lottery pays people all the time so I should get my share.

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                Posted: February 6, 2010, 3:51 am - IP Logged

                I really don't see how any system can predict what numbers will be drawn from a spinning wheel and balls.

                In theory, a cup-and-handle pattern shouldn't predict a winning stock, but traders look for them. Wink

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                  Posted: February 6, 2010, 5:16 am - IP Logged

                  I agree that nature has patterns but balls bouncing around inside a spinning wheel? Maybe if all the variables remain consant then there might be a pattern.

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                    Posted: February 6, 2010, 5:32 am - IP Logged

                    Everything in life has a pattern to it. Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

                    It may be a vey complex pattern that is so beyond our understanding, it defies common sense. Who knows?

                     

                    Look at life itself. Given enough time, like billions of years, in a soup of potentials, basic amino acids can become complex, living and thinking creatures.

                    Anything is possible....given enough time.

                    "Just because we can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist."

                    So you don't deny the existence of Santa Clause or any other mythical creatures/ beings?


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                      Posted: February 6, 2010, 9:50 am - IP Logged

                      There is no lottery system............

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                        Posted: February 6, 2010, 10:03 am - IP Logged

                        Many people claim to have systems to beat casino games. Those people are almost always selling those systems, they make more money that way than playing the systems because the systems don't work.

                        They may have a lucky day or two, but the systems don't work consistently. The only system that works consistently is being the house.

                        Thorpe's classic book, Beat the Dealer, did more to popularize the game of Blackjack than anyrhing else had done. It increased revenue for the house.

                        The odds on those games are much less than the odds on lottery games. The Pick 3 is 1,000 to 1 and that's as good as it gets for a numbers game. for the jackpot games they are in the tens and hundreds of millions.

                        (Yeah, I know, Pick 3 has fewer than 1,000 non-double and non-triple box numbers. But if you're betting $80 to "win" $40 you're not winning.)

                        Since none of these systems has taken those games out of the casinos, why do people think there is a system out there to beat lotto? People go broke beting the 6 & 8 on dice tables, where the odds are 6:5. And people are going to beat MM and PB at 176 MILLION and 195 MILLION to one.

                        Show us. Somebody who believes they have a system show us the system and you're winning ticket. Money talks and bs walks......

                        All these games existed for a very long time before the advent of computers and they still exist today.That tell you anything?

                        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                        Lep

                        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                          Posted: February 6, 2010, 10:07 am - IP Logged

                          There is a system out there.

                          It's called " LUCK " and if it's not prevalent when you buy your tickets, it isn't going to happen....!

                                                                       

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                            Posted: February 6, 2010, 10:21 am - IP Logged

                            MADDOG10 and Coin Toss you guys are my heroes..I've been preaching this a long time..LUCK is the only answer..

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                              Posted: February 6, 2010, 10:32 am - IP Logged

                              "If you think about it, there's really only two ways to play: You keep track of the numbers and either bet on the ones that come up most frequently, because they're Hot, or bet on the numbers that haven't been chosen yet, because they inevitably will be." <Brad Duke>

                              That and Good Luck!

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