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Are we fooled to believe that there's a system?

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Posted: February 8, 2010, 5:57 pm - IP Logged

"Well I used the double-reverse divide by Pi times your height divided by your weght system and added 223 to the answer and then broke it down in to six numbers...."

 

That system will never work.

 

Everyone knows you have to subtract 223 from the answer, not add 223.

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    Posted: February 8, 2010, 7:04 pm - IP Logged

    "Well I used the double-reverse divide by Pi times your height divided by your weght system and added 223 to the answer and then broke it down in to six numbers...."

     

    That system will never work.

     

    Everyone knows you have to subtract 223 from the answer, not add 223.

    Hi cope,

    Welcome.

    That might depend on which side of the Mississippi you're on....or maybe which side of the Mason-Dison line.

    Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

    Lep

    There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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      Posted: February 8, 2010, 7:34 pm - IP Logged

      We already have the tools available too help you win a jackpot it's just a matter of learning how too use them properly so you can get that jackpot in the Pick-3,4,5 or 6 games.


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        Posted: February 8, 2010, 9:35 pm - IP Logged

        Ha Ha....

        I also like the one about Hitler not being able to go to the Michael Jackson concert....hee hee....

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          Posted: February 9, 2010, 12:45 pm - IP Logged

          There is not, and never will be a system that can beat the lottery. There are many strategies available though that can help you to make more intelligent decisions before you throw your money down. Statistics are your friend in this business. The best method anyone can use is simply to use statistics to wisely pick as few numbers as possible to play, and hope for the best. This, however, does not exclude the fact that the best strategy may not have been discovered yet. Just my 2 cents worth.

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            Posted: February 9, 2010, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

            In my opinion, trying "systems " is part of what makes playing the lottery fun (along with winning). For some, it's trying to find "the" system. For others, like me, it's trying to find "a" system. Really, we can just play using QP's, how boring.... or look for ways to pick numbers that may have a good chance to hit.

            I do believe that in the P3 and maybe P4, a "system" can help a player win more than if he just plays QP's. In the jackpot games, well, the odds pretty much overcome any "system" that a person can play with a reasonable budget.

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              Posted: February 9, 2010, 5:36 pm - IP Logged

              "Absense of evidence, is not evidence of absense."

              It is impossible for casino and lottery systems to make a profit over time as static systems.  To play at a profit over time the system must require the user to make a choice and that choice determines whether the player wins or loses. 

              Simple System:

              Split the 220 number box field into four equal parts of 55 numbers each.  Pick one and play it, one in four chance of winning.  Repeat. 

              BobP


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                I believe there is a system or pattern that can greatly increase the odds of winning.  What is required is a fresh approach that derives numbers from something we haven't considered before.  I have solved many problems by simply taking steps to visualize the data and to then transform the data by some known quantities no matter how simple, complex, or sparse this information may be.  It is then possible to optimize your approach and perhaps remove or extract only the data you need to solve your problem -- ignoring the noise or the "odds" -- or perhaps seeing new patterns emerge.  You will know if you are getting close by an increase in winnings or mysterious mechanical failures occurring each time you play :)

                I will post here if I discover something new :).  

                Oh yeah, my point... To say there isn't a system sounds like people claiming the world is flat in 2010.

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                  I believe there is a system or pattern that can greatly increase the odds of winning.  What is required is a fresh approach that derives numbers from something we haven't considered before.  I have solved many problems by simply taking steps to visualize the data and to then transform the data by some known quantities no matter how simple, complex, or sparse this information may be.  It is then possible to optimize your approach and perhaps remove or extract only the data you need to solve your problem -- ignoring the noise or the "odds" -- or perhaps seeing new patterns emerge.  You will know if you are getting close by an increase in winnings or mysterious mechanical failures occurring each time you play :)

                  I will post here if I discover something new :).  

                  Oh yeah, my point... To say there isn't a system sounds like people claiming the world is flat in 2010.

                  You will know if you are getting close by an increase in winnings or mysterious mechanical failures occurring each time you play :)

                  Mechanical failures seldom happen, if you're only playing when there's a mechanical failure then you are seldom playing.

                  I will post here if I discover something new :). 

                  I assume by that statement that somethings have already been discovered.  Do you have a list of the old discoveries?

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                    I believe there is a system or pattern that can greatly increase the odds of winning.  What is required is a fresh approach that derives numbers from something we haven't considered before.  I have solved many problems by simply taking steps to visualize the data and to then transform the data by some known quantities no matter how simple, complex, or sparse this information may be.  It is then possible to optimize your approach and perhaps remove or extract only the data you need to solve your problem -- ignoring the noise or the "odds" -- or perhaps seeing new patterns emerge.  You will know if you are getting close by an increase in winnings or mysterious mechanical failures occurring each time you play :)

                    I will post here if I discover something new :).  

                    Oh yeah, my point... To say there isn't a system sounds like people claiming the world is flat in 2010.

                    I know nothing about mechanical failures in games, but physical dynamics sure make things interesting.

                    Sentence two and three in your post are powerful statements. Be careful of new world science, you could be labeled a heretic for challenging traditional perspectives. Any such system must be questioned as blind optimism or the imagination of the insane.

                    Reality and tradition cannot occupy the same place in people’s minds. It’s okay if the world is flat or that the sun revolves around the earth. That belief never hurt anyone. There is great comfort in traditional beliefs. The YouTube parody on Hitler finding out there is no Santa is humorous example of traditional beliefs shattered.

                    Some things are never meant to be challenged but the early navigators made bank on the superstitions and traditions commonly held as truth. No system has a place in man’s attempt to perfect and make randomness a law in a universe that was made with order. It is like challenging the very fabric of man’s greatness. Chaos and order cannot occupy the same space. Order is the cream that floats to the top every time.


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                      Posted: February 10, 2010, 9:51 am - IP Logged

                      You have too be ONE with the numbers that's the key and when you accomplish this you can almost FEEL what the numbers are going too do,this takes time and much practice I'm working on it and so far the results are promising I am able too select 2-3 correct numbers in the Pick-4, will continue too practice until I can get all 4."Intuition" or "Sixth Sense" can be considered a system I guess and if yours is strong you can pick winning numbers.

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                        Posted: February 10, 2010, 11:19 am - IP Logged

                         Nope, I am not being paranoid.

                         This is what I read from Maxim magazine years ago. It claimed that the system indeed exists. But, lottery guys don't just sit there and watch their system gets broken into. They constantly work on the 'system' to prevent anyone from having unfair advantage.

                         Personally, I don't buy it. Maxim and FHM (now defunct) make up a lot of crap. Truth is, it's a matter of statistics. When someone really discovers the system, all the authority has to do is to up the matrix. And take a look at Italian lottery. The odd is whole lot more astronomical with more numbers in their matrix. But winners come up regularly despite the impossible odds.

                         I can visualize the image that lottery guys laughing at the poor guys who's researching for the 'system' and don't have a life. But if we look at the winning numbers, it looks like there's some kind of pattern. Truth is, we are pattern-seeking animals and we tend to see patterns in things that are actually random.

                         Like I said before, playing lottery is about dreams. It's kind of a drop of acid. As long as you are not obsessing with it, it's a harmless form of tripping. But doing stuff like obsessing with the system or number dreams (sadly, I still can't let go of my number dreams!) it will make your life a living hell.

                        A system wouldn't need a very high success ratio in order to be considered good.

                        A method that only predicted 1 powerball jackpot per year (success ratio 1%, good enough) would be considered great .. no, make that .. GREAT!!! Party

                        At the same time, NO ONE would fly an airline with the slogan "99% of our flights are crash-free!" (success ratio 99%, not good enough) Scared

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                          Posted: February 10, 2010, 2:45 pm - IP Logged

                          Maybe we're fooled to believe there is no system.

                          Maybe we try so hard to pick apart the games looking for a system that we overlook the simplest of things......including the system. HAHAHA!!!!!

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                            A system wouldn't need a very high success ratio in order to be considered good.

                            A method that only predicted 1 powerball jackpot per year (success ratio 1%, good enough) would be considered great .. no, make that .. GREAT!!! Party

                            At the same time, NO ONE would fly an airline with the slogan "99% of our flights are crash-free!" (success ratio 99%, not good enough) Scared

                            That's a problem if a system have to predict 1 PB jackpot before it's classified as a good system.  A system could be destined to win a jackpot in a year but abandoned early because it didn't show a profit soon enough.  The way payouts are designed for jackpot games, matching half the winning numbers pays $2-$10 so a system that constantly beats 1/50-1/350 odds with 10-20 lines is a loser.

                            System players have to come up with their own parameters to define a good system and stick with them until they've had a fair chance to win.  Even winning a jackpot once in a life time is pretty good if you have some life left in you.Wink

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                              There is not, and never will be a system that can beat the lottery. There are many strategies available though that can help you to make more intelligent decisions before you throw your money down. Statistics are your friend in this business. The best method anyone can use is simply to use statistics to wisely pick as few numbers as possible to play, and hope for the best. This, however, does not exclude the fact that the best strategy may not have been discovered yet. Just my 2 cents worth.

                              I played 5/37s and 5/39s long enough to know, I was lucky the few times when 5 out of the 15 numbers I choose were drawn. However I wasn't lucky enough to have the 5 numbers in the same combo. It's possible if I played long enough I could put 15 numbers into the correct order and hit the jackpot but that would require another system and at $20 a drawing, it's expensive.

                              With Pick-3 games it's possible with a sound money management system to make a small profit. Most systems I've read are geared at hitting everyday and I believe that's why they lose money in the long run.