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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: July 21, 2011, 5:45 pm - IP Logged

Hmmm...

Maybe I should start betting with my MadDog "system!"

http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/233822/2127894

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Are you the one that went through all the work of proving to do as well in real life as on paper using your Maddog system you would have to play all 3168 possible combinations every drawings and unless you won a jackpot, which was unlikely, you would end up foolishly very poor?
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    Posted: July 21, 2011, 5:53 pm - IP Logged

    IMO, they're not "experts" unless they've made a few trips to lottery HQ with jackpot-winning tickets.  LOL

    There are those who teach others to do and those who do, experts don't win but tell others how to win. BS

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      My experiences doesn't tell me what kinds of combinations others are playing but only what kinds of combinations have won which are the only ones that concern me.  If I feel good about a combinations with all numbers below 32, I will play it regardless of what others say about playing such combinations.

      I don't think if lotteries gave their players backdowns of the kinds of combinations played it would have any value to players trying to pick winning combinations because 80% of combinations played are losers.

      RJ, i just recently stopped playing a combo of family b/days on nj pic 6,over the past 12 months there have been 7 JP winners everyone has had at least 1 no. higher than 31, 1 of em even had 4,did't want to be locked in to a set of nos. like i'm am on jc5,over 10 years w/ the same 5 nos. now i'm afraid to stop playing them. almost like an addiction.

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        Posted: July 21, 2011, 6:50 pm - IP Logged

        One mistake I have made is finding a number I feel real good about and not playing it on the opposite drawing then the one I'm playing it on.

        Another mistake people make is playing the same numbers for months on end. There is a woman I have seen at the store several times buying tickets. She plays the same P3 and P4 numbers all the time, so I came home and checked out the past results on some of her P4 numbers and found they have hit less than 10 times in any form since 1975.

        Not very smart if you ask me. Personally I give a number 6 days, if it hasn't hit by then I drop it. There was a time I fell in love with a P4 number and played it every day for 4 months. Then I dropped it and guess what? It hit... 3 1/2 years later LOL!!!

        "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

        The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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          Posted: July 21, 2011, 7:40 pm - IP Logged

          I think the biggest mistake people make is not knowing  the game, the numbers that hit the most/least the odds vs evens, not knowing which group shows up more/less the way the game  commission set it up and keep changing it...I have read that some balls show up more because they get handled alot but what about the ball out for 30 games ???

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            Posted: July 21, 2011, 8:19 pm - IP Logged

            Showing an example of the exception to the rule doesn't make the rule any less worthy.

            I checked the occurrences of such PB combinations for the last 3½ years and found that what I post wasn't an exception and what you said about birthday combinations generally having more than one winner was not true.

              DATE         NUMBERS             JP     WINNERS

             07/09/11 - 01 09 11 23 31 +06    $48.0M     0
             12/11/10 - 01 08 10 19 20 +23    $37.0M     2
             12/01/10 - 05 10 11 12 20 +02    $95.3M     1
             10/16/10 - 11 12 15 16 28 +11    $46.0M     0
             08/21/10 - 07 10 12 22 27 +26    $71.0M     1
             07/28/10 - 01 11 20 25 27 +02    $85.0M     0
             01/27/10 - 06 15 20 26 31 +09    $90.0M     0
             11/11/09 - 08 12 14 22 29 +22    $96.0M     1
             09/23/09 - 07 08 20 25 29 +11   $150.0M     0
             05/27/09 - 05 06 12 16 21 +07   $232.0M     1
             05/06/09 - 07 08 12 22 31 +18   $109.0M     0
             12/17/08 - 07 11 18 24 30 +26    $57.0M     0
             08/13/08 - 05 10 19 23 31 +26    $35.0M     0
             05/31/08 - 03 09 14 17 25 +08    $34.1M     1
             03/05/08 - 10 15 16 23 31 +05   $200.0M     0
             01/19/08 - 20 23 25 27 28 +02    $20.0M     0
             01/09/08 - 02 13 20 21 23 +24    $83.0M     0
             

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              I checked the occurrences of such PB combinations for the last 3½ years and found that what I post wasn't an exception and what you said about birthday combinations generally having more than one winner was not true.

                DATE         NUMBERS             JP     WINNERS

               07/09/11 - 01 09 11 23 31 +06    $48.0M     0
               12/11/10 - 01 08 10 19 20 +23    $37.0M     2
               12/01/10 - 05 10 11 12 20 +02    $95.3M     1
               10/16/10 - 11 12 15 16 28 +11    $46.0M     0
               08/21/10 - 07 10 12 22 27 +26    $71.0M     1
               07/28/10 - 01 11 20 25 27 +02    $85.0M     0
               01/27/10 - 06 15 20 26 31 +09    $90.0M     0
               11/11/09 - 08 12 14 22 29 +22    $96.0M     1
               09/23/09 - 07 08 20 25 29 +11   $150.0M     0
               05/27/09 - 05 06 12 16 21 +07   $232.0M     1
               05/06/09 - 07 08 12 22 31 +18   $109.0M     0
               12/17/08 - 07 11 18 24 30 +26    $57.0M     0
               08/13/08 - 05 10 19 23 31 +26    $35.0M     0
               05/31/08 - 03 09 14 17 25 +08    $34.1M     1
               03/05/08 - 10 15 16 23 31 +05   $200.0M     0
               01/19/08 - 20 23 25 27 28 +02    $20.0M     0
               01/09/08 - 02 13 20 21 23 +24    $83.0M     0
               

              Well that's nice, but there are other games people play too ya know...lol

              I don't play the PB, and hardly ever play florida fantasy five. But each state has their own lotto and play 5 games. Maybe the birthday idea came from folks who investigated all the games over a period of time, and/or just general experience from feedback by folks who play all the JP lotteries.

              Now, If you can show me the majority of the games from all states' JP games reflect the same kind of stats as in your quote above with PB, then I can say that the experts are full of Schmidt. But truthfully, I have no reason to believe that they benefit in any way to say what they say. So I can't see a reason for them to lie about such a thing. Not only that, it reflects all of my experiences with people around me. But you're right, the numbers don't lie, and that would be interesting to see. I don't expect you to look through every game in the country to show it to me, but it would be nice If someone had already compiled that info for everyone to see.

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                I checked the occurrences of such PB combinations for the last 3½ years and found that what I post wasn't an exception and what you said about birthday combinations generally having more than one winner was not true.

                  DATE         NUMBERS             JP     WINNERS

                 07/09/11 - 01 09 11 23 31 +06    $48.0M     0
                 12/11/10 - 01 08 10 19 20 +23    $37.0M     2
                 12/01/10 - 05 10 11 12 20 +02    $95.3M     1
                 10/16/10 - 11 12 15 16 28 +11    $46.0M     0
                 08/21/10 - 07 10 12 22 27 +26    $71.0M     1
                 07/28/10 - 01 11 20 25 27 +02    $85.0M     0
                 01/27/10 - 06 15 20 26 31 +09    $90.0M     0
                 11/11/09 - 08 12 14 22 29 +22    $96.0M     1
                 09/23/09 - 07 08 20 25 29 +11   $150.0M     0
                 05/27/09 - 05 06 12 16 21 +07   $232.0M     1
                 05/06/09 - 07 08 12 22 31 +18   $109.0M     0
                 12/17/08 - 07 11 18 24 30 +26    $57.0M     0
                 08/13/08 - 05 10 19 23 31 +26    $35.0M     0
                 05/31/08 - 03 09 14 17 25 +08    $34.1M     1
                 03/05/08 - 10 15 16 23 31 +05   $200.0M     0
                 01/19/08 - 20 23 25 27 28 +02    $20.0M     0
                 01/09/08 - 02 13 20 21 23 +24    $83.0M     0
                 

                I like those stats!

                Birthday numbers only came up once so far this year.

                So it looks like mine have an excellent chance and quite possibly the inside track over the next five months or so.

                I think it's a lock!

                 

                You say it's your birthday
                It's my birthday too, yeah
                They say it's your birthday
                We're gonna have a good time
                I'm glad it's your birthday
                Happy birthday to you.

                Yes we're going to a party party
                Yes we're going to a party party
                Yes we're going to a party party

                I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                Take a cha-cha-cha-chance (Birthday)
                I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                Dance

                I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                Take a cha-cha-cha-chance (Birthday)
                I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                Dance

                You say it's your birthday
                Well it's my birthday too, yeah
                You say it's your birthday
                We're gonna have a good time
                I'm glad it's your birthday
                Happy birthday to you!


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                  I like those stats!

                  Birthday numbers only came up once so far this year.

                  So it looks like mine have an excellent chance and quite possibly the inside track over the next five months or so.

                  I think it's a lock!

                   

                  You say it's your birthday
                  It's my birthday too, yeah
                  They say it's your birthday
                  We're gonna have a good time
                  I'm glad it's your birthday
                  Happy birthday to you.

                  Yes we're going to a party party
                  Yes we're going to a party party
                  Yes we're going to a party party

                  I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                  Take a cha-cha-cha-chance (Birthday)
                  I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                  Dance

                  I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                  Take a cha-cha-cha-chance (Birthday)
                  I would like you to dance (Birthday)
                  Dance

                  You say it's your birthday
                  Well it's my birthday too, yeah
                  You say it's your birthday
                  We're gonna have a good time
                  I'm glad it's your birthday
                  Happy birthday to you!

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                    Are you the one that went through all the work of proving to do as well in real life as on paper using your Maddog system you would have to play all 3168 possible combinations every drawings and unless you won a jackpot, which was unlikely, you would end up foolishly very poor?
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                    I forgot that slapstick is the only comedic form that's sure to be recognized here.

                    Irony just slides right by...

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                      I forgot that slapstick is the only comedic form that's sure to be recognized here.

                      Irony just slides right by...

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                      what about the thread on inadvertant title convergance ? not irony? i'm new in this neighborhood, but you sound like you think you're better than every one else ?

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                        Well that's nice, but there are other games people play too ya know...lol

                        I don't play the PB, and hardly ever play florida fantasy five. But each state has their own lotto and play 5 games. Maybe the birthday idea came from folks who investigated all the games over a period of time, and/or just general experience from feedback by folks who play all the JP lotteries.

                        Now, If you can show me the majority of the games from all states' JP games reflect the same kind of stats as in your quote above with PB, then I can say that the experts are full of Schmidt. But truthfully, I have no reason to believe that they benefit in any way to say what they say. So I can't see a reason for them to lie about such a thing. Not only that, it reflects all of my experiences with people around me. But you're right, the numbers don't lie, and that would be interesting to see. I don't expect you to look through every game in the country to show it to me, but it would be nice If someone had already compiled that info for everyone to see.

                        I have no reason to believe that they benefit in any way to say what they say. So I can't see a reason for them to lie about such a thing.

                        Likewise I have no reason to believe anyone wants to know the truth, if they did  those stats aren't that hard to check.   I just posted the PB ones to prove my first post wasn't an exception.

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                            what about the thread on inadvertant title convergance ? not irony? i'm new in this neighborhood, but you sound like you think you're better than every one else ?

                            Your call down is valid.  Since you're new, you probably aren't aware of the kinds of attacks I've been subjected to.  You may also not be aware that RJOh is much smarter than he often feigns.  No, I don't think I'm "better" than anyone else.  I guess some of the nastiness I've had to deal with over the past year is turning me into a cynic.  Take a look back.


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                              I have no reason to believe that they benefit in any way to say what they say. So I can't see a reason for them to lie about such a thing.

                              Likewise I have no reason to believe anyone wants to know the truth, if they did  those stats aren't that hard to check.   I just posted the PB ones to prove my first post wasn't an exception.

                              This is true, but your original example was just one draw, and I wasn't aware that this was  the norm in PB until you showed me the list of the 3 year stat. Below is what you originally posted. But again, I still would be interested to see the nationwide stats. And If they reflect the list you showed with PB, then everything we were taught regarding birthday numbers would be false. I just don't feel it's fair to shoot down the birthday numbers based on one game's 3 year history. In fact, I don't believe the folks who pushed the whole birthday number idea based it on the PB alone. That idea was around long before PB even existed.

                              I guess a lot of players must believe that because this recent PB drawing:

                              07/09/11 - 01 09 11 23 31  +06

                              had no winners of its $48.0 M prize.

                              The biggest mistakes lottery players make is believing everything the experts say.