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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: June 24, 2012, 10:58 am - IP Logged

There is a much easier way..........

Walk into the Lottery office with $98,280. cash and 28 numbers. (plus a bonus ball)

If a person can walk into a strip club with $100k and get "service" I'm sure the Lottery office would be happy to do the same. And imagine the look on their face when I tell them I will be back twice a week till I win the JP.


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    There is a much easier way..........

    Walk into the Lottery office with $98,280. cash and 28 numbers. (plus a bonus ball)

    If a person can walk into a strip club with $100k and get "service" I'm sure the Lottery office would be happy to do the same. And imagine the look on their face when I tell them I will be back twice a week till I win the JP.

    Maybe that's possible, I should call my lottery office to propose that scenario, to see if that's even doable?

    And unless you are carefully double checking each and every ticket on your own for accuracy, what if a couple of the played numbers are

    transposed incorrectly by the lottery staff?

     

    You just might score a 5+0 first bat out, but if the number was recorded as 2-10-13-29-46  MB-33, and the number you actually wanted

    to play was 2-10-13-29-33  MM-46,  and the winning 5+0 was 2-10-13-29-33, what is your recourse? Don't think you can sue the lottery.

     

    Not trying to bust your pair Ronnie, just playing Devil's Advocate.  Red Devil    LOL

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      There is a much easier way..........

      Walk into the Lottery office with $98,280. cash and 28 numbers. (plus a bonus ball)

      If a person can walk into a strip club with $100k and get "service" I'm sure the Lottery office would be happy to do the same. And imagine the look on their face when I tell them I will be back twice a week till I win the JP.

      If that was possible then the couple that traveled to Massachusetts to play their game rundowns wouldn't have had to take over a couple of store terminals to buy $300K of quick picks.  The state ended the game because the general public thought allowing players with $300K to stand at a terminal for two days buying  lottery tickets made it too easy for them to win.

      Imagine a state like Ohio (my state) with a 6/49 game who's jackpots has reached $50M/$25M cash in the past allowing anyone with $14M to buy a full 6/49 wheel directly from the main office, it would be almost like exchanging $25M for $14M.  How long do you think players/losers would continue contributing to the jackpots.

      No way any lottery that plans to be around for a while would ever consider such an idea.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        A full wheel of 28 numbers has 98280 lines so every three games you need to win $294,840 just to break even money wise not to mention the time spent filling out play slips and standing in lines to play them.

        I was thinking about something more realistic like filling out 50 playslips using 250 combos. But with no guarantee of matching all five numbers on the same line when the 28 number group matched all 5 numbers once out of every three drawings, I would have to rely on winnings from matching 3 or 4 numbers to show a profit. And comparing the smaller prize payoffs, playing a Pick-5 game like Rolling Cash 5 would probably be a better option.


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          If that was possible then the couple that traveled to Massachusetts to play their game rundowns wouldn't have had to take over a couple of store terminals to buy $300K of quick picks.  The state ended the game because the general public thought allowing players with $300K to stand at a terminal for two days buying  lottery tickets made it too easy for them to win.

          Imagine a state like Ohio (my state) with a 6/49 game who's jackpots has reached $50M/$25M cash in the past allowing anyone with $14M to buy a full 6/49 wheel directly from the main office, it would be almost like exchanging $25M for $14M.  How long do you think players/losers would continue contributing to the jackpots.

          No way any lottery that plans to be around for a while would ever consider such an idea.

          Well first RJ, I'm talking about $98,280. NOT $300k. Big difference right there.

          Those people went to the Liquor store instead of the Lottery office is because they were trying to exploit a flaw in the system, which is not at all what I'm talking about doing.

          Thirdly, if a Tote system at the track can wheel or box all possible numbers, I'm sure the lottery can also, even if they need to update their system to accomidate new demands.


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            Maybe that's possible, I should call my lottery office to propose that scenario, to see if that's even doable?

            And unless you are carefully double checking each and every ticket on your own for accuracy, what if a couple of the played numbers are

            transposed incorrectly by the lottery staff?

             

            You just might score a 5+0 first bat out, but if the number was recorded as 2-10-13-29-46  MB-33, and the number you actually wanted

            to play was 2-10-13-29-33  MM-46,  and the winning 5+0 was 2-10-13-29-33, what is your recourse? Don't think you can sue the lottery.

             

            Not trying to bust your pair Ronnie, just playing Devil's Advocate.  Red Devil    LOL

            Not as hard as you might think mc,

            With a Tote system like the track uses they can put all 28 numbers on one ticket.

            ChaChing ChaChing, that will be $98,280. dollars please.......    Scared

            And if course always "check all tickets before leaving the window"


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              Not as hard as you might think mc,

              With a Tote system like the track uses they can put all 28 numbers on one ticket.

              ChaChing ChaChing, that will be $98,280. dollars please.......    Scared

              And if course always "check all tickets before leaving the window"

              Very good then. You seem to have all the angles covered. Please let us know when you receive your first 5+0 check!   Banana


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                Sounds like a plan if only someone could come up a list that works.

                Ahhhh....the $64,000 question. Who might that "someone" be.  What?


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                  Very good then. You seem to have all the angles covered. Please let us know when you receive your first 5+0 check!   Banana

                  Not so fast mc,

                  Im waiting for you to follow through on"I should call my lottery office to propose that scenario, to see if that's even doable?"

                  After that Im planning on hitting 5 of 5 a few times right here before I start dropping $100k on each drawing. Besides Im think it will take about 5 years to hit a JP and @ $100k per drawing I am talking about a $51 million proposition.

                  But what did the Lottery think was going to start happening once they created $640 million dollar Jackpots that are up for grabs?


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                    btw, $51 mill is less than the price of a new Gulfstream G650 business plane and there are 200 people fighting over who is going to get one first when they come off the line.

                    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/jet_setter_dogfight_for_wings_dY44RQtBAuBKBUDqy4VyJJ


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                      Not so fast mc,

                      Im waiting for you to follow through on"I should call my lottery office to propose that scenario, to see if that's even doable?"

                      After that Im planning on hitting 5 of 5 a few times right here before I start dropping $100k on each drawing. Besides Im think it will take about 5 years to hit a JP and @ $100k per drawing I am talking about a $51 million proposition.

                      But what did the Lottery think was going to start happening once they created $640 million dollar Jackpots that are up for grabs?

                      I will call the lotto office tomorrow morning and let you know their answer.


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                        I will call the lotto office tomorrow morning and let you know their answer.

                        Ok, thanks mc. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

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                          Well first RJ, I'm talking about $98,280. NOT $300k. Big difference right there.

                          Those people went to the Liquor store instead of the Lottery office is because they were trying to exploit a flaw in the system, which is not at all what I'm talking about doing.

                          Thirdly, if a Tote system at the track can wheel or box all possible numbers, I'm sure the lottery can also, even if they need to update their system to accomidate new demands.

                          According to the couple, it wasn't a flaw but a well advertised scheme to encourage big spenders to buy more tickets which they did.

                          Besides,they had gone to the lottery office several times before to collect their winnings and was congratulated by lottery officials who knew how they were winning.

                          Remember, they weren't the first big spenders to win a lottery jackpot. Back in the eighties a foreign investment group won the Virgina lottery by buying all the possible combinations and afterwards most states put in rules to prevent that from ever happening again.

                          If there is a way for big spenders to guarantee themselves winning the jackpots then states don't want to appear to be helping them.

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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                            Ok, thanks mc. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

                            Don't mention it, the least I can do for an up and coming millionaire.   Big Grin


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                              According to the couple, it wasn't a flaw but a well advertised scheme to encourage big spenders to buy more tickets which they did.

                              Besides,they had gone to the lottery office several times before to collect their winnings and was congratulated by lottery officials who knew how they were winning.

                              Remember, they weren't the first big spenders to win a lottery jackpot. Back in the eighties a foreign investment group won the Virgina lottery by buying all the possible combinations and afterwards most states put in rules to prevent that from ever happening again.

                              If there is a way for big spenders to guarantee themselves winning the jackpots then states don't want to appear to be helping them.

                              Well that sounds like good news for me.

                              Somehow I don't think using "Thriftys power of positive energy flow system" will ever be misconstrued as guaranteeing myself a win.

                                 
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