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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Ronnie last evenings Powerball was ALL EVEN NUMBERS!  Please tell me you used your magical numbers, to come up with another of your

death defying 5+0's? Heck, even the red Powerball number was even!!!

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dont think too much.. after all it is really by luck :)

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dont think too much.. after all it is really by luck :)

And you know this because..............................

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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100000 divided by about 17.5 million combos.

It's actually closer to 1 in 18 or 19, now that I think about it.

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100000 divided by about 17.5 million combos.

It's actually closer to 1 in 18 or 19, now that I think about it.

The grand total incuding bonus ball is 175,000,000. But the bonus ball aspect is eliminated  by playing only a single bonus ball and playing for 5 of 5, which is around 3.8 million to 1 odds..........   making 100,000 lines a 1 in 38 chance of hitting 5 of 5.

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 Posted: June 28, 2012, 10:39 am - IP Logged

Hey Ronnie

i need to make some change

would you take out those number 03-16-23 -35-36 on my pick

replace this number 07-09-28-39-48 and see i can get back to back win

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Hey Ronnie

i need to make some change

would you take out those number 03-16-23 -35-36 on my pick

replace this number 07-09-28-39-48 and see i can get back to back win

Ok topnail, now you can get back to back and prove skill is "BETTER" than luck.

7 - 9 - 15 - 28 - 42 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 28 - 43 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 28 - 48 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 28 - 51 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 28 - 52 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 28 - 53 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 32 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 33 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 34 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 39 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 41 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 42 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 43 ** 36
7 - 9 - 15 - 31 - 48 ** 36

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Ronnie last evenings Powerball was ALL EVEN NUMBERS!  Please tell me you used your magical numbers, to come up with another of your

death defying 5+0's? Heck, even the red Powerball number was even!!!

Now that the elusive 5+0 has been defeated the target is bringing down the 5+1 giant.

On any given night of hitting 5 of 5 the odds of 5+1 are only 1 in 46 on the MM game.

Tomorrow night could be the night that the giant loses his head,

You think predictive powers and positive energy are all in my head?

I say that luck is DEAD!!!

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I think ronnie and stack have very good ideas on how to beat the odds...

but I would suppose that one of the most important features is that the 28 number group has to be distinct and well defined...not entirely 28 totally random numbers...

so suppose you have

1) odd

2)even

3)High

4)Low

5)MId

a good question might be...how many distinct and well defined groups can be categorized and how well does the flag formation show for each one, if at all?

Two distinct 28 number groups recently matched all five numbers when all high numbers and all even numbers were drawn, but there are many other non-distinct groups of 28 numbers that could have matched either or both draws too. I'm not sure how to mathematically determine how many other groups of 28 numbers would have matched those five high and five even numbers, but I know the total number of 28 number groups is the same as a 28/56 matrix. There are 7.5 billion 9 number groups in a 56 number matrix and 28! is a 30 digit number.

The object now seems to be finding a group that will match all five numbers in a relative short period of time, but if it's not matched once out of three drawings, can't show much of a profit unless the bonus is matched too.

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Now that the elusive 5+0 has been defeated the target is bringing down the 5+1 giant.

On any given night of hitting 5 of 5 the odds of 5+1 are only 1 in 46 on the MM game.

Tomorrow night could be the night that the giant loses his head,

You think predictive powers and positive energy are all in my head?

I say that luck is DEAD!!!

Since you're talking about hypothetical bets, for \$4,520,880 you'll win the jackpot.

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Since you're talking about hypothetical bets, for \$4,520,880 you'll win the jackpot.

No, \$4.5 million will not win the Jackpot.

\$175 million would win the jackpot, but would be impossible the actually bet.

\$100k IS posible to bet and I have already been to the Lottery office to confirm that.

This is a TRIAL. When and if I hit 5+1, I will subtract my hypothetical cost of each and every draw from the Jackpot amount to determine if there was a profit.

Understand??

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No, \$4.5 million will not win the Jackpot.

\$175 million would win the jackpot, but would be impossible the actually bet.

\$100k IS posible to bet and I have already been to the Lottery office to confirm that.

This is a TRIAL. When and if I hit 5+1, I will subtract my hypothetical cost of each and every draw from the Jackpot amount to determine if there was a profit.

Understand??

"\$100k IS posible to bet and I have already been to the Lottery office to confirm that."

It's possible to bet \$100,000 on ZERO playing roulette (with about the same 2.6% chance) and win \$3.5 million, but you're only talking about winning \$150,000 by making a bet with about the same chance of winning. After two losing bets the roulette player will be betting \$300,000 to win \$3.2 million but the best your third bet can expect is probable small loss. After losing \$500,000 will you still make another \$100,000 to win only \$150,000 on just that one bet knowing the roulette player can still win \$3 million?

The roulette player could only win an amount the casino is willing to risk and no where near the size of MM jackpots. But they wouldn't have to accuratedly fill out 20,000 playslips and hope the clerks running the machines don't take long breaks or the machine runs out of paper.

"This is a TRIAL. When and if I hit 5+1, I will subtract my hypothetical cost of each and every draw from the Jackpot amount to determine if there was a profit."

I do believe it's possible to increase the 2.6% chance of matching five numbers wheeling 28 maybe as high as 10%, but that still gives about a 70% loss every 100 drawings and without hitting the jackpot and that's \$7 million in losses. The only way you could show a profit is by winning the jackpot. In each of the 10 five number matches out of every 100, you'll have a 2.2% chance of winning the jackpot or hopefully in the next 460 drawings. The odds against winning jackpot are exactly the same by distributing all 46 bonus numbers or playing only one in every drawing so I'd choose the latter.

Since your hypothetical losses for 460 drawings should be about \$32 million, the size of the jackpot will determine if you do in fact make a hypothetical profit. And that's still assuming you'll match the bonus on the one out ten drawings when you match all five numbers. The odds really favor matching the bonus number on one of the 9 out 10 drawings when you don't match all five.

"Understand??"

Yep, it's similar to when another member suggested the players in Maddog's MM challenge would each spend a hypothetical \$36,432 twice a week by playing all the possible combos. He showed a years worth of charts breaking down all the hypothetical wins and losses. At the end of the day it was only statistics for hypothetical bets nobody would or could make.

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it's possible to increase the 2.6% chance of matching five numbers wheeling 28 maybe as high as 10%

Please Stack, give us an example of how this simple task is accomplished.

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First, a LP member has to prove that a LP member can even win a MM jackpot.  Even with all the LP members playing it every drawings, the odds are it will never happen, but if and when it does it will probably be done playing less than a 100 lines or as a member in a pool that played more than 10 lines.  Until then we can all dream about winning.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket *

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First, a LP member has to prove that a LP member can even win a MM jackpot.  Even with all the LP members playing it every drawings, the odds are it will never happen, but if and when it does it will probably be done playing less than a 100 lines or as a member in a pool that played more than 10 lines.  Until then we can all dream about winning.

RJOh - I humbly put myself forward to be the LP member to win a MM jackpot.  I am willing to take this bullet - all in the name of science.

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