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Posted: December 22, 2012, 10:20 am - IP Logged

The  ODDS of choosing 5 of 5 from a set of 18 numbers is 1 in 8568.


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    Ronnie scores 5 of 5 with a set of 20................

    Boney ZERO, Ronnie ONE...............

    01 03 06 07 11 18 19 24 28 29 32 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

    Friday, December 21, 2012              03 · 18 · 32 · 41 · 56    193$12 Million
    Tuesday, December 18, 201201 · 06 · 07 · 18 · 29    163$12 Million
    Friday, December 14, 201211 · 28 · 33 · 41 · 43    414$35 Million
    Tuesday, December 11, 201239 · 44 · 51 · 52 · 54    134$27 Million
    Friday, December 07, 201207 · 43 · 44 · 51 · 56    043$20 Million
    Tuesday, December 04, 201203 · 19 · 24 · 32 · 43    444$13 Million

    So far it looks like Im getting BETTER ODDS...........


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      Posted: December 22, 2012, 10:31 am - IP Logged

      The night the PB jackpot was at $588 million my BETTER ODDS of hitting 5 of 5 were 1 in 575,757.....

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        Yeah Ronnie, you're better at coin flips lol


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          Wheel:  Pick 5 Key 4 if 4 of 12

          Tickets:  47

          Description: Minimum 4-number match, if 4 numbers drawn fall within your set of 12 numbers.

          Input:  3, 11, 28, 7, 41, 44, 29, 39, 52, 19, 51, 43

          1. 03-07-11-28-52
          2. 03-11-28-39-41
          3. 03-11-28-44-51
          4. 03-11-19-28-29
          5. 03-11-19-28-43
          6. 03-07-11-19-41
          7. 03-07-11-41-43
          8. 03-07-11-39-44
          9. 03-07-11-29-51
          10. 03-07-11-43-51
          11. 03-11-29-41-44
          12. 03-11-41-51-52
          13. 03-11-39-43-44
          14. 03-11-19-44-52
          15. 03-11-29-39-52
          16. 03-11-29-43-52
          17. 03-11-19-39-51
          18. 03-07-28-41-51
          19. 03-07-28-29-44
          20. 03-07-28-43-44
          21. 03-07-19-28-39
          22. 03-19-28-41-44
          23. 03-28-41-43-44
          24. 03-28-29-41-52
          25. 03-28-39-44-52
          26. 03-28-29-39-51
          27. 03-28-29-43-51
          28. 03-28-39-43-52
          29. 03-19-28-51-52
          30. 03-07-41-44-52
          31. 03-07-29-39-41
          32. 03-07-39-41-43
          33. 03-07-19-44-51
          34. 03-07-29-39-43
          35. 03-07-19-29-52
          36. 03-07-39-51-52
          37. 03-07-19-43-52
          38. 03-39-41-44-51
          39. 03-19-29-41-51
          40. 03-19-29-41-43
          41. 03-19-39-41-52
          42. 03-41-43-51-52
          43. 03-19-29-39-44
          44. 03-29-44-51-52
          45. 03-19-29-43-44
          46. 03-43-44-51-52
          47. 03-19-39-43-51

          Ronnie what if you had done a second 50 dollar wheel alternating your 20 total set numbers?  You could do that to maybe try and prevent yourself from filtering out the winners.  Even though you couldn't put them all on the boards.


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            Yeah Ronnie, you're better at coin flips lol

            You can hide behind the "big picture" all you want Boney, it doesn't change the fact that in the big $588 million game I was playing with 10 times BETTER ODDS than you were..........


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              Posted: December 22, 2012, 5:42 pm - IP Logged

              It also dosnt change the fact that I can hit 5 of 5 with 20 numbers, and you cant even hit with 28.....


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                Ronnie what if you had done a second 50 dollar wheel alternating your 20 total set numbers?  You could do that to maybe try and prevent yourself from filtering out the winners.  Even though you couldn't put them all on the boards.

                Did you notice that for 2 draws in a row I keyed a winning number. lol.lol. Just a quirk, Im sure.


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                  Posted: December 22, 2012, 5:47 pm - IP Logged

                  Ronnie what if you had done a second 50 dollar wheel alternating your 20 total set numbers?  You could do that to maybe try and prevent yourself from filtering out the winners.  Even though you couldn't put them all on the boards.

                  Filtering 18-20 numbers is a big challenge. Im not sure what you mean by alternating. Could you give an example?


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                    Filtering 18-20 numbers is a big challenge. Im not sure what you mean by alternating. Could you give an example?

                    01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                    01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                    01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                    01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                    I guess what I mean is that if you were going to filter your first 18 number set,

                    you would filter it into different groups of overlapping 12., and then instead of 1 $50 wheel, you could do perhaps

                    4 $25 dollar wheels, or 4 $50 dollar wheels depending on budget and such.

                    Just a thought.

                    However it would have been also interesting to see how one of Todds 18 number abbreviated wheels would have performed.

                    Also might be interesting to see how filtering by decades might have fared.


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                      01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                      01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                      01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                      01 03 06 07 11 18 19 28 29 33 39 41 43 44 51 52 54 56

                      I guess what I mean is that if you were going to filter your first 18 number set,

                      you would filter it into different groups of overlapping 12., and then instead of 1 $50 wheel, you could do perhaps

                      4 $25 dollar wheels, or 4 $50 dollar wheels depending on budget and such.

                      Just a thought.

                      However it would have been also interesting to see how one of Todds 18 number abbreviated wheels would have performed.

                      Also might be interesting to see how filtering by decades might have fared.

                      The 18 number wheel did not hit 5 of 5 but the 20 number wheel did. I use a random input for all wheels so it would not be hard to generate one using the winning 20. Easiest would be the 2 if 2 of 20.


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                        Wheel:  Pick 5 Abbreviated 2 if 2 of 20

                        Tickets:  21

                        Description: Minimum 2-number match, if 2 numbers drawn fall within your set of 20 numbers.

                        Input:  7, 18, 39, 19, 24, 44, 56, 51, 32, 11, 3, 6, 1, 33, 41, 28, 43, 52, 29, 54

                        1. 06-07-18-29-33
                        2. 07-19-39-44-51
                        3. 07-11-24-28-32
                        4. 03-07-52-54-56
                        5. 01-07-41-43-51
                        6. 11-18-39-41-56
                        7. 18-19-32-43-54
                        8. 01-18-24-51-52
                        9. 03-18-28-44-51
                        10. 18-28-29-41-54
                        11. 06-24-39-51-54
                        12. 01-03-29-32-39
                        13. 28-33-39-43-52
                        14. 03-19-24-33-41
                        15. 01-06-19-28-56
                        16. 11-19-29-51-52
                        17. 24-29-43-44-56
                        18. 06-32-41-44-52
                        19. 01-11-33-44-54
                        20. 32-33-41-51-56
                        21. 03-06-11-43-51


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                          The smaller the set of numbers the easier it is to hit 5 of 5 with a wheel, with a set of 20 the 4 if 5 is 433 lines


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                            The smaller the set of numbers the easier it is to hit 5 of 5 with a wheel, with a set of 20 the 4 if 5 is 433 lines

                            True.  There must be a better abbreviated wheel than the 2 if 2.

                            I dont think it pays to use a wheel like that, as you dont get any free plays for matching two numbers.

                            Minimum guarentee should be a 3 if 5, which in some cases you may have to key two numbers.


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                              Here is the first 10 lines of this wheel. It has the 4 of 5 somewhere in it but I couldnt even find it there are so many lines. lol. lol.

                              Wheel:  Pick 5 Abbreviated 4 if 5 of 20

                              Tickets:  433

                              Description:  Minimum 4-number match, if 5 numbers drawn fall within your set of 20 numbers.

                              Input:  7, 18, 29, 39, 28, 19, 6, 24, 33, 44, 56, 43, 54, 3, 11, 1, 52, 41, 51, 32

                              1. 07-18-19-29-43
                              2. 07-18-29-33-52
                              3. 03-07-18-29-56
                              4. 06-07-18-28-39
                              5. 07-11-18-39-51
                              6. 01-07-18-39-41
                              7. 07-18-28-41-56
                              8. 07-18-28-43-51
                              9. 03-07-11-18-19
                              10. 07-18-19-32-51

                                 
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