Welcome Guest
Log In | Register )
You last visited December 4, 2016, 9:25 pm
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

Do some number combinations have better odds?

Topic closed. 5280 replies. Last post 4 years ago by rdgrnr.

Page 263 of 353
4.820
PrintE-mailLink

United States
Member #116268
September 7, 2011
20244 Posts
Offline
Posted: January 27, 2013, 4:26 pm - IP Logged

If 3 more people join, and we all play the same lines ever draw and win it would be a 5 ways split.

Just the opposite of boneys bone headed "EV" strategy.

My strategy is called SV for "shared value"


    United States
    Member #116268
    September 7, 2011
    20244 Posts
    Offline
    Posted: January 27, 2013, 4:37 pm - IP Logged

    Have a good night everyone. I'm headin down town to the Royal Rumble.


      United States
      Member #116268
      September 7, 2011
      20244 Posts
      Offline
      Posted: January 27, 2013, 4:56 pm - IP Logged

      Bed


        United States
        Member #124493
        March 14, 2012
        7023 Posts
        Offline
        Posted: January 27, 2013, 5:15 pm - IP Logged

        Have a good night everyone. I'm headin down town to the Royal Rumble.

        I thought you were already getting tag teamed by boneys jimmy.

        Oh I am sorry, the emeritus phi kappa beta scholar at oxford university has just informed me the proper phrase is

        "Jimmys boney"

          Boney526's avatar - NjlpLogo
          New Jersey
          United States
          Member #99032
          October 18, 2010
          1439 Posts
          Offline
          Posted: January 27, 2013, 5:18 pm - IP Logged

          If 3 more people join, and we all play the same lines ever draw and win it would be a 5 ways split.

          Just the opposite of boneys bone headed "EV" strategy.

          My strategy is called SV for "shared value"

          Again, since you're so insist upon putting words on my mouth, let me make it clear for anyone foolishly listening to you.

           

          "EV" is NOT a strategy.  It's the same thing as saying "average ROI."

           

          Ronnie can try to imply that I'm stupid all he wants, but he can't even read more than a couple sentences and will just make fun of something simple that he can't understand.


            United States
            Member #124493
            March 14, 2012
            7023 Posts
            Offline
            Posted: January 27, 2013, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

            Again, since you're so insist upon putting words on my mouth, let me make it clear for anyone foolishly listening to you.

             

            "EV" is NOT a strategy.  It's the same thing as saying "average ROI."

             

            Ronnie can try to imply that I'm stupid all he wants, but he can't even read more than a couple sentences and will just make fun of something simple that he can't understand.

            Why dont you try putting these words in your mouth?

            "Jimmys boney"

            Jester Laugh

              Avatar
              Kentucky
              United States
              Member #32652
              February 14, 2006
              7298 Posts
              Offline
              Posted: January 27, 2013, 8:01 pm - IP Logged

              Stack47,

              Does your logic tell you that when a "professor emeritus" designs a "wheel" for a snake oil salesperson, we should assume that professor believes that users of the wheel will enjoy higher returns on their investment in lottery play?

              Have you ever considered blanketing Vegas with your resume?  Since you seem to think your understanding of gaming is superior to Don Catlin's, a well worded cover letter might land you a few lucrative consulting contracts. 

              You people never cease to amaze me with the depths to which you will sink to keep false hopes alive with your laughable attempts at obfuscation.

              --Jimmy4164

              Speaking of snake oil salesmen, I hate to bust your bubble, but in Catlin's book "The Truth Behind the Numbers", he says "most of us don't know the nature of these games or the math behind them or, yes, how to most effectively play them".

              How about that, your hero thinks there is an effective way to play MM and PB too.

              "Have you ever considered blanketing Vegas with your resume?"

              Chapter One of Catlin's book tells of his experience of seeing a long line of lottery players purchasing Super Lotto Plus tickets at a store just across the Cal/Nev state line near Prime, Nevada. If I wanted to bore some people in Vegas, I'd write "how to play" articles for the tourists in the Casino City Times. People ought to get a free copy of Catlin's book with ever bottle of Nightquil.

              "Since you seem to think your understanding of gaming is superior to Don Catlin's,"

              Go to any book store and there are hundreds of books explaining almost every form of gambling known to Man including high stakes Rock, Paper, Scissors. I'm not knocking Catlin's mathematics resume or knowledge of casino gaming, but he isn't The authority on the subject. As far as being a gaming consultant, for over 20 years, the casino owners are more interested in what their stock did yesterday and their bottom line.

              The one thing you don't seem to comprehend is the majority of members on LP play lottery games and enjoy sharing ideas of how to better play the games they are already playing.

               


                United States
                Member #124493
                March 14, 2012
                7023 Posts
                Offline
                Posted: January 27, 2013, 8:36 pm - IP Logged

                Speaking of snake oil salesmen, I hate to bust your bubble, but in Catlin's book "The Truth Behind the Numbers", he says "most of us don't know the nature of these games or the math behind them or, yes, how to most effectively play them".

                How about that, your hero thinks there is an effective way to play MM and PB too.

                "Have you ever considered blanketing Vegas with your resume?"

                Chapter One of Catlin's book tells of his experience of seeing a long line of lottery players purchasing Super Lotto Plus tickets at a store just across the Cal/Nev state line near Prime, Nevada. If I wanted to bore some people in Vegas, I'd write "how to play" articles for the tourists in the Casino City Times. People ought to get a free copy of Catlin's book with ever bottle of Nightquil.

                "Since you seem to think your understanding of gaming is superior to Don Catlin's,"

                Go to any book store and there are hundreds of books explaining almost every form of gambling known to Man including high stakes Rock, Paper, Scissors. I'm not knocking Catlin's mathematics resume or knowledge of casino gaming, but he isn't The authority on the subject. As far as being a gaming consultant, for over 20 years, the casino owners are more interested in what their stock did yesterday and their bottom line.

                The one thing you don't seem to comprehend is the majority of members on LP play lottery games and enjoy sharing ideas of how to better play the games they are already playing.

                 

                I hate to correct you stack,

                but catlin is not "THEE" gambling expert.  I try to be proper, to not offend the emeritus of wikipedia university.

                What is interesting to me is that, GH is also a native of Nevada, so how can her snake oil differ any more than catlins, especially since they are both drinking from the same well?

                BTW, have you ever bought snakeoile?

                Let me tell you it makes your d-ck hard!


                  United States
                  Member #93947
                  July 10, 2010
                  2180 Posts
                  Offline
                  Posted: January 27, 2013, 9:36 pm - IP Logged

                  Wheel: Pick 5 Abbreviated 2 if 5 of 39

                  Tickets:  25

                  Description:  Minimum 2-number match, if 5 numbers drawn fall within your set of 39 numbers.

                  Input:  1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 32, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40, 44, 45, 46, 49, 51, 54, 55, 56, 59

                  1. 01-02-19-26-38
                  2. 01-02-24-36-51
                  3. 01-06-07-11-44
                  4. 01-07-16-17-46
                  5. 01-09-17-20-25
                  6. 01-11-13-20-30
                  7. 01-14-19-22-36
                  8. 02-03-06-16-22
                  9. 02-03-09-14-46
                  10. 03-07-13-49-54
                  11. 03-17-46-56-59
                  12. 06-14-19-24-51
                  13. 06-14-26-36-38
                  14. 07-09-16-56-59
                  15. 08-11-29-32-35
                  16. 08-13-25-30-44
                  17. 08-20-44-49-54
                  18. 11-25-30-49-54
                  19. 18-21-32-39-55
                  20. 18-23-35-39-45
                  21. 18-27-29-39-40
                  22. 21-23-29-45-55
                  23. 21-27-35-40-55
                  24. 22-24-26-38-51
                  25. 23-27-32-40-45

                  Ronnie316,

                  Well, I asked you 2 simple questions but all we got here was 3 more pages of drivel in the thread.  Please note that there are 2 sentences below with question marks appended.

                  OK, let's try again...

                  The results are in but you chose to point to your list of 39 numbers rather than the 25 selections you made.  Which of your 25 intersected best with the winning draw?

                  03  22  26  41  49   (18)

                  The fact that 4 of the night's 5 white balls drawn were among your 39 selections is of dubious value.  Do you know how many combinations there are of 39 numbers taken 5 at a time and how many tickets you would have had to buy to ensure a 4/5 hit?

                  I think Pascal and Fermat are still resting peacefully in their graves.

                  --Jimmy4164

                   


                  P.S.  If you are one of the active posters in this thread who feels compelled to repeatedly post evasive garbage rather than address the questions, would you please give the many readers here the courtesy of an explanation of what your PURPOSE is here. I've explained mine on multiple occasions, and my posts here are DIRECTLY related to the Topic Title of this thread.

                   

                    Avatar
                    Toronto
                    Canada
                    Member #138397
                    January 26, 2013
                    179 Posts
                    Offline
                    Posted: January 27, 2013, 11:10 pm - IP Logged

                    Speaking of snake oil salesmen, I hate to bust your bubble, but in Catlin's book "The Truth Behind the Numbers", he says "most of us don't know the nature of these games or the math behind them or, yes, how to most effectively play them".

                    How about that, your hero thinks there is an effective way to play MM and PB too.

                    "Have you ever considered blanketing Vegas with your resume?"

                    Chapter One of Catlin's book tells of his experience of seeing a long line of lottery players purchasing Super Lotto Plus tickets at a store just across the Cal/Nev state line near Prime, Nevada. If I wanted to bore some people in Vegas, I'd write "how to play" articles for the tourists in the Casino City Times. People ought to get a free copy of Catlin's book with ever bottle of Nightquil.

                    "Since you seem to think your understanding of gaming is superior to Don Catlin's,"

                    Go to any book store and there are hundreds of books explaining almost every form of gambling known to Man including high stakes Rock, Paper, Scissors. I'm not knocking Catlin's mathematics resume or knowledge of casino gaming, but he isn't The authority on the subject. As far as being a gaming consultant, for over 20 years, the casino owners are more interested in what their stock did yesterday and their bottom line.

                    The one thing you don't seem to comprehend is the majority of members on LP play lottery games and enjoy sharing ideas of how to better play the games they are already playing.

                     

                    I don't know who Catlin is, and I don't care. But simply saying he isn't god doesn't prove or disprove anything. Just because he isn't the authority on the subject 

                    doesn't make his points invalid. In an argument, you're supposed to refute ideas, not the person posing the ideas.

                     

                    Wanting to "better play the games" is ok, but please, don't do it with pseudo math. If you want to use math, you have to use all of it, Otherwise don't use it at all.

                     

                    If you want to pray to god to give you the winning numbers, go pay your local psychic, or get high from drugs and see hullcinations of the winning numbers to 

                    improve your chances, that's all fine and dandy. But you can't simply take a part of math and disregard the rest of it.

                     

                    I can't just tell my math teacher that 3+5 = 7, because I never learned to count up to 8, and if he says I'm wrong, then I tell him he's not the authority of mathematics.

                      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
                      mid-Ohio
                      United States
                      Member #9
                      March 24, 2001
                      19823 Posts
                      Offline
                      Posted: January 28, 2013, 10:53 am - IP Logged

                      I don't know who Catlin is, and I don't care. But simply saying he isn't god doesn't prove or disprove anything. Just because he isn't the authority on the subject 

                      doesn't make his points invalid. In an argument, you're supposed to refute ideas, not the person posing the ideas.

                       

                      Wanting to "better play the games" is ok, but please, don't do it with pseudo math. If you want to use math, you have to use all of it, Otherwise don't use it at all.

                       

                      If you want to pray to god to give you the winning numbers, go pay your local psychic, or get high from drugs and see hullcinations of the winning numbers to 

                      improve your chances, that's all fine and dandy. But you can't simply take a part of math and disregard the rest of it.

                       

                      I can't just tell my math teacher that 3+5 = 7, because I never learned to count up to 8, and if he says I'm wrong, then I tell him he's not the authority of mathematics.

                      I think what he's saying is your thoughts and math isn't unique, he has seen and hear them before.
                      When you're trying to win a lottery, winning defies all conventional math and logic, so they have no 
                      relativity to a serious lottery player.   Conventional math is for the class room and figuring odds of 
                      winning but not for figuring how to win.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
                                   Evil Looking       


                        United States
                        Member #116268
                        September 7, 2011
                        20244 Posts
                        Offline
                        Posted: January 28, 2013, 10:58 am - IP Logged

                        I think what he's saying is your thoughts and math isn't unique, he has seen and hear them before.
                        When you're trying to win a lottery, winning defies all conventional math and logic, so they have no 
                        relativity to a serious lottery player.   Conventional math is for the class room and figuring odds of 
                        winning but not for figuring how to win.

                        Excellent point. People who intend to win the lottery intend to defy logic in the first place. So why would we go backward to simple conventional math when it comes to strategizing a jackpot win?


                          United States
                          Member #116268
                          September 7, 2011
                          20244 Posts
                          Offline
                          Posted: January 28, 2013, 11:03 am - IP Logged

                          You can "directly relate" to the thread topic all you want jim and MOST people who read this WONT CARE...

                          We are here to play te lottery............. You are only here to disrupt and everyone knows that.


                            United States
                            Member #116268
                            September 7, 2011
                            20244 Posts
                            Offline
                            Posted: January 28, 2013, 11:05 am - IP Logged

                            I don't know who Catlin is, and I don't care. But simply saying he isn't god doesn't prove or disprove anything. Just because he isn't the authority on the subject 

                            doesn't make his points invalid. In an argument, you're supposed to refute ideas, not the person posing the ideas.

                             

                            Wanting to "better play the games" is ok, but please, don't do it with pseudo math. If you want to use math, you have to use all of it, Otherwise don't use it at all.

                             

                            If you want to pray to god to give you the winning numbers, go pay your local psychic, or get high from drugs and see hullcinations of the winning numbers to 

                            improve your chances, that's all fine and dandy. But you can't simply take a part of math and disregard the rest of it.

                             

                            I can't just tell my math teacher that 3+5 = 7, because I never learned to count up to 8, and if he says I'm wrong, then I tell him he's not the authority of mathematics.

                            Please fix the way your posts appear, or stop posting here yoyo.


                              United States
                              Member #116268
                              September 7, 2011
                              20244 Posts
                              Offline
                              Posted: January 28, 2013, 11:20 am - IP Logged

                              How typical of you jim to feel so superior to others that you feel an answer should be forthcoming just because you asked a question. 

                              NEWS FLASH jim, no one cares about you divisive questions and no one is obligated to answer.

                                 
                                Page 263 of 353