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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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      Set of 28 for MM. Tue. Mar. 19, 2013.

      01 02 04 05 06 08 10 11 12 13 15 17 19 24 25 30 34 35 38 39 41 42 43 46 49 51 55 56

      bonus ball 03

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        BETTER ODDS can be calculated over time when 46 lines (or more) are played on each draw. For example lets say 46 lines are played with all 46 bonus numbers, after 18 draws you will have had a guaranteed 18 bonus numbers hits.

        When playing the same bonus number on all lines, lets say it hits on the 18th draw. You have had zero chances up til that draw in exchange for 46 hits on the 18th draw. 

        Clearly 46 chances would be BETTER than 18 chances, even if you played 46 QPs each draw.

        The 1 in 39.9 overall chances includes matching three, four, and five so the 45 to 1 playing just one bonus number is probably the same overall. I played in a lotto pool for a couple of years and several times we had more than 150 QPs. We matched 5 out of 6 twice but that only averaged out to $100 per player. The critics can argue we can't get better odds by using any strategy, but based on the QPs I saw, we can't do worse.

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          Here are 45 Random MM Picks for Tonight, 3/19/13

          Sorted Results are from:  https://www.random.org/

          NO GUARANTEES are made!

          Without a Jackpot hit, the Expected (average) Return on this $45 investment would be about $9.  If this set of 45 picks generates more (or less) than that, I will NOT be making any claims, one way or the other. (Because none will be warranted.)

          This is just for fun!

          01.  01-02-13-32-34--27
          02.  01-15-39-46-56--39
          03.  01-18-41-44-55--22
          04.  01-23-33-48-51--20
          05.  02-03-12-28-56--09
          06.  02-16-21-30-52--32
          07.  02-20-28-33-36--34
          08.  03-24-51-55-56--08
          09.  04-05-35-40-46--22
          10.  04-11-15-34-37--23
          11.  04-12-16-35-37--19
          12.  04-37-41-47-52--24
          13.  05-10-21-29-42--07
          14.  05-12-23-47-49--28
          15.  05-16-23-41-47--26
          16.  05-33-42-52-54--37
          17.  06-09-11-17-39--33
          18.  06-23-25-32-55--23
          19.  07-12-29-31-32--16
          20.  07-14-23-24-39--34
          21.  08-15-28-41-44--25
          22.  09-20-24-47-50--28
          23.  09-22-31-32-48--17
          24.  10-12-22-51-55--19
          25.  10-13-21-26-33--05
          26.  10-14-26-52-53--19
          27.  10-19-30-37-49--06
          28.  10-27-28-43-52--33
          29.  11-15-28-42-43--44
          30.  12-15-24-31-43--21
          31.  13-21-24-41-43--01
          32.  13-32-33-44-51--26
          33.  15-19-20-43-45--33
          34.  15-24-27-39-43--12
          35.  16-25-28-50-53--08
          36.  16-28-39-45-55--10
          37.  17-18-29-44-48--23
          38.  17-25-29-33-43--04
          39.  18-21-24-38-40--32
          40.  18-27-31-37-39--01
          41.  18-43-44-52-56--02
          42.  23-28-47-50-53--44
          43.  24-32-37-46-49--34
          44.  26-33-45-48-49--09
          45.  41-42-43-52-55--15

          Good Luck Everyone!

          I expected you to at least play 45 different bonus numbers and maybe have some special way of combining those combinations of five so as not to repeat any combinations of 3's but it looks like you just picked 45 lines randomly and proved getting  a small win isn't easy even with 45 lines especially if you do nothing more than pick 45 lines randomly.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            I expected you to at least play 45 different bonus numbers and maybe have some special way of combining those combinations of five so as not to repeat any combinations of 3's but it looks like you just picked 45 lines randomly and proved getting  a small win isn't easy even with 45 lines especially if you do nothing more than pick 45 lines randomly.

            "I expected you to at least..."

            Why?  Why would you expect me to alter the https://random.org/  output?

            "...and proved getting  a small win isn't easy..."

            Proved?  You won't find words like "easy" and "hard" in a proof.

            What Ronnie316 and I demonstrated tonight is that in a game where the odds against winning ANYTHING are about 39 to 1, it's not unusual to play 90 lines with nary a hit!  And it didn't seem to matter how the numbers were selected, did it?

            Hopefully, what was learned is that in a game with over 175 Million possible outcomes, to think that 90 plays is a large enough sample from which to draw conclusions, is laughable!

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              "I expected you to at least..."

              Why?  Why would you expect me to alter the https://random.org/  output?

              "...and proved getting  a small win isn't easy..."

              Proved?  You won't find words like "easy" and "hard" in a proof.

              What Ronnie316 and I demonstrated tonight is that in a game where the odds against winning ANYTHING are about 39 to 1, it's not unusual to play 90 lines with nary a hit!  And it didn't seem to matter how the numbers were selected, did it?

              Hopefully, what was learned is that in a game with over 175 Million possible outcomes, to think that 90 plays is a large enough sample from which to draw conclusions, is laughable!

              Sorry, I forget you were strictly a random simulation type of player. 

              I hope you're wrong about 90 plays being a large enough sample to draw any conclusions being laughable because I picked 10 lines to play for PB tomorrow based on the last 122 drawings since its matrix change to 5/59+1/35 and I'm not laughing.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Sorry, I forget you were strictly a random simulation type of player. 

                I hope you're wrong about 90 plays being a large enough sample to draw any conclusions being laughable because I picked 10 lines to play for PB tomorrow based on the last 122 drawings since its matrix change to 5/59+1/35 and I'm not laughing.

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                  Sorry, I forget you were strictly a random simulation type of player. 

                  I hope you're wrong about 90 plays being a large enough sample to draw any conclusions being laughable because I picked 10 lines to play for PB tomorrow based on the last 122 drawings since its matrix change to 5/59+1/35 and I'm not laughing.

                  "...based on the last 122 drawings..." Big Smile

                  I guess that means they're using those memory balls tomorrow.


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                    Sorry, I forget you were strictly a random simulation type of player. 

                    I hope you're wrong about 90 plays being a large enough sample to draw any conclusions being laughable because I picked 10 lines to play for PB tomorrow based on the last 122 drawings since its matrix change to 5/59+1/35 and I'm not laughing.

                    I Agree! Some of us play to win...... Others dont even play.


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                        The 1 in 39.9 overall chances includes matching three, four, and five so the 45 to 1 playing just one bonus number is probably the same overall. I played in a lotto pool for a couple of years and several times we had more than 150 QPs. We matched 5 out of 6 twice but that only averaged out to $100 per player. The critics can argue we can't get better odds by using any strategy, but based on the QPs I saw, we can't do worse.

                        I Agree! QPs are for the useful idiots.


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                          Set of 28 for MM. Tue. Mar. 19, 2013.

                          01 02 04 05 06 08 10 11 12 13 15 17 19 24 25 30 34 35 38 39 41 42 43 46 49 51 55 56

                          bonus ball 03

                          1 of 5 on this draw.

                          Tuesday, March 19, 2013         03 · 06 · 14 · 21 · 37    35        3$13 Million


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                            Boney hit 2 of 5 on this draw.


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                              The 1 in 39.9 overall chances includes matching three, four, and five so the 45 to 1 playing just one bonus number is probably the same overall. I played in a lotto pool for a couple of years and several times we had more than 150 QPs. We matched 5 out of 6 twice but that only averaged out to $100 per player. The critics can argue we can't get better odds by using any strategy, but based on the QPs I saw, we can't do worse.

                              I think your right Stack, considering it takes over 300 lines to get even odds on a 3+0 hit.

                                 
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