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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: March 26, 2013, 4:22 pm - IP Logged

It's not about what "could have been done", but what can be done. The only thing that was proved in the last 808 MM drawings, placing the numbers into the 2if5 wheel in numerical order from 1 to 56 produced no five number matches. I proved by using a different order, it's possible to have three or more five number matches in 808 drawings. It's no different than saying it's possible to pick a group of 28 numbers and get 5 or more five number matches in 39 drawings and proving that it can be done.

"Brad Duke used a wheel so we know it can be done."

Duke's system for picking the 15 numbers was as simple as it gets; he used the most commonly drawn 15 numbers in the last 6 months. I matched 5 numbers out of 15 playing 5/37 and 5/39 pick-5 games, but I limited my chances of having them all on the same line by using a 13 combo 3if5 abbreviated wheel. Duke never said how he wheeled his numbers, but said he played about $300 worth of tickets. My best guess is he used a 4if4 abbreviated wheel or filtered the 3003 combos.

His playing strategy was base on what he though was the best way by purchasing 300 tickets. If Thrifty's strategy is to someday play 5 tickets, he can either purchase 5 QPs or decide what is the best way for him to pick 5 lines. Our critics want to make it look very complicated by bringing up the odds, but they also want to simplify it by suggesting every player who picks their lines will play the same lines infinitely. They want us to play by their rules so they can run their simulations. There is no rule saying I can't place all 56 numbers into a wheel using an order that produces multiple jackpot wins matching the bonus number "3" or a rule preventing Brad Duke from using 10% of the 3003 combos plus the bonus number and winning a huge jackpot. 

The key is if any player is planning on purchasing a set number of tickets by trying to pick the numbers, whether it be 5, 20, or 300 tickets, is to design a strategy on how much they are going to spend. RJ's latest Ohio Lotto strategy of playing what he thought was his best 20 lines produced a 5 out 6 winner. Anyone can use Duke's 15 number strategy and play for 3 bucks and of course we know the odds against having a five number match are 1000 to 1 when all 5 of the 15 numbers match and even know the huge odds against any 3 tickets having five number match and/or winning the jackpot.

We know the odds, we know how difficult (or easy for Brad Duke) it is to trap the winning using a group of numbers. and we know playing the same lines in every drawing is not the best strategy so why do our critics continue to create rules that don't apply to us or continue to tell us what we already know?

I see.

Investing $300 to win tens of $Millions seems like a good strategy.

Why not go for it?

If you miss on your first attempt, you can always try again.  If you miss the 2nd time, the 3rd time might be your charm!  All you need to do is calculate how many $300 sets you should play before going back to the drawing board.  This might help with that calculation...

http://www.justwebware.com/powerball/powerball.html

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    Posted: March 26, 2013, 5:13 pm - IP Logged

    What did BradDuke win?

     


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      Posted: March 26, 2013, 5:19 pm - IP Logged

      What did BradDuke win?

      Lots of money.  Party

       

      My avatar is better than yours.  Thumbs Up

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        Posted: March 26, 2013, 5:26 pm - IP Logged

        What did BradDuke win?

        You obviously haven't done any research of past multi state jackpot winners or the Lottery Post archives.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: March 26, 2013, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

          I see.

          Investing $300 to win tens of $Millions seems like a good strategy.

          Why not go for it?

          If you miss on your first attempt, you can always try again.  If you miss the 2nd time, the 3rd time might be your charm!  All you need to do is calculate how many $300 sets you should play before going back to the drawing board.  This might help with that calculation...

          http://www.justwebware.com/powerball/powerball.html

          You have to know what you are suggesting is a waste of time for testing any strategy other than buying a single quick pick.

          The PB simulation you mentioned is simply picking one of 175 millions possible PB combinations to represent the player's numbers and another one to represent the drawing.  The only thing it comes close to simulating is  buying one PB quick pick for a single drawing.

          Brad Duke strategy sounds dynamic, that is it changed after each drawing based on previous drawings and included 300 combinations.  In order to come close to testing his strategy or any other strategy other than buying a single quick pick, the simulator would has to be capably of picking a group of combinations using parameters entered by the player and going back and using previous drawings results for comparisons.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: March 26, 2013, 6:16 pm - IP Logged

            You obviously haven't done any research of past multi state jackpot winners or the Lottery Post archives.

            Doesn't answer my question you $sshole

             

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              Posted: March 26, 2013, 6:20 pm - IP Logged

              You obviously haven't done any research of past multi state jackpot winners or the Lottery Post archives.

              And obviously I didn't search or else I wouldn't have been asking the question you jerk from bumble f$&@ Ohio LOL

               


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                Posted: March 26, 2013, 6:25 pm - IP Logged

                Doesn't answer my question you $sshole

                The politically correct term is bunghole.

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                  Posted: March 26, 2013, 7:49 pm - IP Logged

                  Doesn't answer my question you $sshole

                  Whoa, nice talk to a long-time respected member.

                  You oughta apologize.


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                    Posted: March 26, 2013, 8:14 pm - IP Logged

                    What did BradDuke win?

                    He actually won 220.3 million.

                    He said he invested a lot of it, wonder what he's worth now?  Roll Eyes

                    Wonder if he still plays Powerball. What?

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                      Posted: March 26, 2013, 8:20 pm - IP Logged

                      He actually won 220.3 million.

                      He said he invested a lot of it, wonder what he's worth now?  Roll Eyes

                      Wonder if he still plays Powerball. What?

                      Wasn't he on that TV show, the lottery changed my life.

                      2016 Won/Lost

                      EuroMillions / Spent: £22 / Won £0 / Total -£22

                      UK Lotto / Spent: £4 / Won: £0 / Total: -£4

                      2016 Total: -£24

                      Jan: -£22 Feb: £0 ~ Mar: £0 ~ April: £0 ~ May: £0 ~ June: £0 ~ July: £2

                       

                      EuroMillions = £2 Line / Played: x11 [old price] 

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                        Posted: March 26, 2013, 8:54 pm - IP Logged

                        He actually won 220.3 million.

                        He said he invested a lot of it, wonder what he's worth now?  Roll Eyes

                        Wonder if he still plays Powerball. What?

                        Thnx for answering my question lol ... Too much BS

                         

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                          Posted: March 26, 2013, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

                          And obviously I didn't search or else I wouldn't have been asking the question you jerk from bumble f$&@ Ohio LOL

                          i been to Ohio many times but i have never heard of that town sound like a FUN place Hurray!

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                            Posted: March 26, 2013, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

                            Duke's system for picking the 15 numbers was as simple as it gets; he used the most commonly drawn 15 numbers in the last 6 months.

                            Playing a 15 number set would only require 95 lines on a 4 if 5 of 15 wheel. But how often can we capture the winning numbers in a set of 15? I keep going back to the set of 35 (recently drawn numbers) because we know for a fact that they produced 17 opportunities for 5 of 5 last year.

                            "Playing a 15 number set would only require 95 lines on a 4 if 5 of 15 wheel."

                            LP has a 3 if 3 highly balanced wheel with 57 combos and probably a better play to run the wheel twice using different orders for $114.

                            "I keep going back to the set of 35 (recently drawn numbers) because we know for a fact that they produced 17 opportunities for 5 of 5 last year."

                            But again it depends on how much you want to risk and a 3 if 5 of 35 numbers has 174 combos. A 2 if 2 wheel has 74 combos with a decent number distribution.

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                              Posted: March 26, 2013, 10:21 pm - IP Logged

                              Thnx for answering my question lol ... Too much BS

                              Yeah, too much BS for you Foxy boy.

                              I didn't think you'd apologize.

                              Cuz you're an @sshole.

                                 
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