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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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 Posted: July 27, 2012, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

Hey, what are you doing here people? Is it some sort of "prediction competition? I'd consider participation with my GAT Engine for fun but I really can't figure your rules. Do you pick 28 numbers + 1 powerball? If so, can someone give me a link to this MegaMillion game to get the history?

Right, just post 28 numbers +1 bonus ball. The USA Mega link is on the left side of this page.

http://www.usamega.com/

It has all the past results.

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I have been working on a strategy of picking random numbers and eliminating them. The question is how many can be chosen for elimination before the odds work against me? We know that any 5 random numbers has a 62% chance of NOT showing up in the drawing, but what about 10-25?

I am going to pick several lines of 25 random number using my RNG to see which number hits first on each line after the drawing tonight. My guess is very few hits in the first 10 numbers.

9,5,50,23,32,48,21,42,36,6,46,1,52,44,8,31,41,28,51,55,47,27,49,53,3

Of course, the more lines I choose the less likely it is going to work well, so only 2 more lines.

19,26,52,9,40,18,12,2,39,42,4,33,13,5,20,24,54,30,55,16,42,28,6,25,38

36,28,51,13,30,48,25,49,22,47,6,1,31,16,34,37,4,18,52,55,32,12,38,11,23

 Friday, July 27, 2012 02 · 03 · 04 · 08 · 43    + 26

9,5,50,23,32,48,21,42,36,6,46,1,52,44,8,31,41,28,51,55,47,27,49,53,3

Of course, the more lines I choose the less likely it is going to work well, so only 2 more lines.

19,26,52,9,40,18,12,2,39,42,4,33,13,5,20,24,54,30,55,16,42,28,6,25,38

36,28,51,13,30,48,25,49,22,47,6,1,31,16,34,37,4,18,52,55,32,12,38,11,23

It took 15 trys to get one number correct on my first try and 9 on the scond try.

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 Posted: July 28, 2012, 8:51 am - IP Logged

My sets for the next draw July 31 2012:

28 numbers for the 5/56 field:

GAT  25526 (5-hit - 18%)  : 01 03 05 06 08 09 10 18 21 23 25 27 28 29 30 32 33 34 35 37 40 43 44 45 49 50 54 55

[most 5-hits have an average time of 4-8 draws]

GAT 175793 (4-hit - 48%) : 01 02 04 11 12 13 15 16 17 20 22 23 26 27 28 30 34 36 37 38 39 42 45 46 48 51 54 55

[This concentrate mostly on 4-hits with average waiting time of 1-3 draws with quite many consecutive 4-hits, can also give a few 5-hits but not as many as the previous GAT prediction. Just post this to check 4-hits performance]

For the 1/46 field:
GAT 881787 (20%) : 39

[The hits distribution for this prediction is closer to 8-12 draws waiting time, there was a good consecutive hits sequence that formed that 20% ratio, it may well happen again but it looks like the average waiting time for a hit here will be around 8-12 draws]

[Data for my reference D=50, SD=20, RF=0 for future prediction runs]

For the competition here, my submission is the GAT 25526 numbers + GAT 881787 for the bonus ball.

From the above, I expect from GAT within the next 10 draws to get about 1-2 5-hit predictions and match the bonus ball 1-2 times. Let's see what we'll get

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 Posted: July 28, 2012, 11:21 pm - IP Logged

Im picking 10 RNG elimination numbers for tonight drawing. Plus previous draw numbers for elimination.

 Wednesday, July 25, 2012 03 · 14 · 35 · 38 · 46    + 16

34,32,31,49,48,28,10,30,15,24

And drawing from the remaining numbers:

52,25,36,11,44,42,37,29,27,50,17,18,32,56,40,39,8,23,15,41,54,26,2,17,20,5,1,53

bonus ball  8

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 Posted: July 28, 2012, 11:41 pm - IP Logged

Well all 15 elimination numbers succeeded in NOT being a factor in the draw.

But only 3 of 5 hit using the remaining numbers to pick 28.

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My sets for the next draw July 31 2012:

28 numbers for the 5/56 field:

GAT  25526 (5-hit - 18%)  : 01 03 05 06 08 09 10 18 21 23 25 27 28 29 30 32 33 34 35 37 40 43 44 45 49 50 54 55

[most 5-hits have an average time of 4-8 draws]

GAT 175793 (4-hit - 48%) : 01 02 04 11 12 13 15 16 17 20 22 23 26 27 28 30 34 36 37 38 39 42 45 46 48 51 54 55

[This concentrate mostly on 4-hits with average waiting time of 1-3 draws with quite many consecutive 4-hits, can also give a few 5-hits but not as many as the previous GAT prediction. Just post this to check 4-hits performance]

For the 1/46 field:
GAT 881787 (20%) : 39

[The hits distribution for this prediction is closer to 8-12 draws waiting time, there was a good consecutive hits sequence that formed that 20% ratio, it may well happen again but it looks like the average waiting time for a hit here will be around 8-12 draws]

[Data for my reference D=50, SD=20, RF=0 for future prediction runs]

For the competition here, my submission is the GAT 25526 numbers + GAT 881787 for the bonus ball.

From the above, I expect from GAT within the next 10 draws to get about 1-2 5-hit predictions and match the bonus ball 1-2 times. Let's see what we'll get

Awsome work  lottoarchitect, your numbers are in for tonights draw.

01 03 05 06 08 09 10 18 21 23 25 27 28 29 30 32 33 34 35 37 40 43 44 45 49 50 54 55

bonus ball 39

Question: if I take out 15 "elimination" numbers can you run the remaining 41 numbers through your GAT time machine and spit out the best 28 for me to play??

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 Posted: July 31, 2012, 7:03 pm - IP Logged

Its time to bring out the elimination numbers.........

 Friday, July 27, 2012 02 · 03 · 04 · 08 · 43    + 26

26 53 40 27 37 46 52 23 42 30

Remaining 41 numbers:

1 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 24 25 28 29 31 32 33 34 35 36 38

39 41 44 45 47 48 49 50 51 54 55 56

28 numbers chosen for tonights draw July 30, 2012.

19 39 25 47 17 51 1 5 18 22 10 28 56 36 6 32 7 41 49 33 31 24 12 48 54 35 11 43

1 5 6 7 10 11 12 17 18 19 22 24 25 28 31 32 33 35 36 39 41 43 47 48 49 51 54 56

bonus ball; 8

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 Posted: July 31, 2012, 11:32 pm - IP Logged

Excellent work 3 members hit 4+0  lottoarchitect

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I'm not happy... actually I'd get a 5 hit playing the numbers not picked by the 2nd prediction hehe, just kidding :)

Question: if I take out 15 "elimination" numbers can you run the remaining 41 numbers through your GAT time machine and spit out the best 28 for me to play??

I can't do that, the string of numbers is formulated by a signature mechanism. I can't eliminate any numbers of those proposed because numbers are picked as a cluster, not individually. Removing numbers from the cluster breaks this relationship within the cluster. What I can do with this engine is to give you a set of X numbers and say these are the most probable to come based on whatever detected by the engine and used to formulate the cluster.

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 Posted: August 1, 2012, 5:10 am - IP Logged

My 28 number sets for August 3.

GAT 25526  : 05 08 09 10 13 18 19 21 24 25 27 29 30 31 34 35 37 41 43 44 45 46 47 51 52 54 55 56
GAT 175793 : 02 05 06 09 10 11 15 17 26 27 28 29 32 34 35 39 40 41 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 53 54 55

Megaball:

GAT 881787 : 42

[Data reference D=50 SD=20 RF=1]

My submission is GAT 25526 numbers + GAT 881787.

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 Posted: August 1, 2012, 7:31 pm - IP Logged

I'm not happy... actually I'd get a 5 hit playing the numbers not picked by the 2nd prediction hehe, just kidding :)

Question: if I take out 15 "elimination" numbers can you run the remaining 41 numbers through your GAT time machine and spit out the best 28 for me to play??

I can't do that, the string of numbers is formulated by a signature mechanism. I can't eliminate any numbers of those proposed because numbers are picked as a cluster, not individually. Removing numbers from the cluster breaks this relationship within the cluster. What I can do with this engine is to give you a set of X numbers and say these are the most probable to come based on whatever detected by the engine and used to formulate the cluster.

Ok, cool. Give me a set of 41 numbers for MM Friday night and I will break it down to 28.

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Ok, cool. Give me a set of 41 numbers for MM Friday night and I will break it down to 28.

Try this one with 41 numbers [GAT 955769 RF 0 - 52% 5-hit] : 05 26 35 19 13 29 42 06 40 34 45 47 44 33 10 08 11 56 37 24 46 20 41 43 21 30 23 15 28 55 04 12 39 03 50 48 27 16 09 38 17

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Because the balls are NUMBERED, it is not a random event.

If half the balls were RED, and half the balls were BLUE, what would be the odds of getting all red or all blue?

Are odds the same for odd/even combinations, because half the balls are odd, and half the balls are even?

HOW COME THE ONLY JACKPOT WINNERS ARE FROM THE [EAST - WEST - NORTH - SOUTH - CITIES - RURAL AREAS]?
HOW COME ONLY [WHITE, BLACK, TALL, SKINNY, YOUNG, OLD] PEOPLE WIN?
Powerball is a random game that knows nothing about who buys a ticket or where a ticket is purchased. There really is no white/black/old/young/rich/poor, etc.] button on the machine. If one draws a box around some group of players (eg., state border, hair color, shoe size), then that group of players will win in proportion to their play. If the defined group buys 10% of the tickets, then they will win 10% of the prizes - on average and over a reasonable period of time. But that does NOT mean that you have a better chance of winning in a bigger box - you then just have more folks to play against. The Law of Large numbers explains how random expectations become truer as the number of occurrences increases. So, if players in a particular group buy 8.6754% of the tickets, then we will find, if the number of occurrences (prizes awarded) are large enough, that those players win 8.6754% of the prizes. This is definitely true for the low-tier prizes where there are large numbers of winners. With 12 to 15 jackpot winners in a year, we would expect that these percentages can get out of sync with sales from time to time, but as the number of jackpot winners continues to increase, we will find that the percentage numbers move closer and closer to being the same number. Try this experiment. Flip a coin four times. You might get 75% heads - or even 100%. You would not expect to get excited about that. With only ten flips, it can happen. But then flip it 1,000 times (no cheating). You will come much closer to the statistical expectation of 50% heads. If you hit 75% heads after 1,000 flips, then something is wrong. It really does NOT make any difference where you buy your ticket. It is you a against the draw machine.

WHICH HAS THE BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING: COMPUTER PICKS OR PLAYER PICKS?
About 70% to 80% of purchases are computer picks. About 70% to80% of winners are computer picks. Perhaps just one of those weird coincidences?

Do you remember when the Connecticut asset managers won the \$254M powerball jackpot with \$1 quick pick?

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Because the balls are NUMBERED, it is not a random event.

If half the balls were RED, and half the balls were BLUE, what would be the odds of getting all red or all blue?

Are odds the same for odd/even combinations, because half the balls are odd, and half the balls are even?

I will never waste my time analyzing lotteries games where anybody can win it with a single bet regardless of the jackpot amount. Ronnie just be a player to win the blip thing. I feel that you are wasting too much time analyzing these lotto games with no results.

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I will never waste my time analyzing lotteries games where anybody can win it with a single bet regardless of the jackpot amount. Ronnie just be a player to win the blip thing. I feel that you are wasting too much time analyzing these lotto games with no results.

Thanks for the honest input THRIFTY, but I feel I'm positioning myself for a tax redistribution windfall. The people who are in charge of all things see me and will HIT ME WITH THE BEST SHOT. FIRE AWAY.

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