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Posted: July 10, 2012, 8:25 pm - IP Logged

It will still take some time, but that should speed things up. With 39 groups and 730 drawings, the average number of five number matches is 19.

MegaMillion drawings are increasing, there are now 735 drawings since the last matrix change and tomorrow  there will be 736.   

Thank you RJ and Stack I will be working on this when I have some extra extra time.

I will be out at my local "doggery" tonight, so all you "One in 39" players feel free to post after the big MM drawing. Im still playing the odd numbers but getting weary of these. lol.

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    Thank you RJ and Stack I will be working on this when I have some extra extra time.

    I will be out at my local "doggery" tonight, so all you "One in 39" players feel free to post after the big MM drawing. Im still playing the odd numbers but getting weary of these. lol.

    That was the point I was making about Stack's comment about 39 groups and 730 drawings, by the time there's extra extra time to check it out five or six more drawings will have happened.

    One positive thing about being a few drawings behind, the current drawing will show if the theory has merit. Once that is known you'll know if coming up with more immediate results will be worth the extra effort.

    Thanks guys for all your hard work and good luck to you.

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      I hope this helps RJ and Stack, It is to only way I could divide 3.8 million into 39 groups.

      1. go to Lottery Post Combination Generator. http://www.lotterypost.com/combinations

      2. generate 5/56 combinations. (3,819,816)

      3. copy and paste to notepad.

      4. divide 3,819,816 by 39 = 97,944

      5. find line 97,944 to separate first group from second group.

      6. repeat process for all 39 groups.

      Last 10 lines in first group:

      01-06-13-25-42
      01-06-13-25-43
      01-06-13-25-44
      01-06-13-25-45
      01-06-13-25-46
      01-06-13-25-47
      01-06-13-25-48
      01-06-13-25-49
      01-06-13-25-50
      01-06-13-25-51

      First 10 lines in second group:

      01-06-13-25-52
      01-06-13-25-53
      01-06-13-25-54
      01-06-13-25-55
      01-06-13-25-56
      01-06-13-26-27
      01-06-13-26-28
      01-06-13-26-29
      01-06-13-26-30
      01-06-13-26-31

      In another thread you said:

      "Exactly right Butch, our chances are better when we play more likely number groups. Right now I'm working on dividing the 5/56 game into 39 groups of 28 numbers each. Each group of 28 numbers (98,820 lines) x 39 groups = 3.85 million lines. Then analyze each groups winning percentages."

      Because so many numbers will be used multiple times in each of your groups, I'm wondering how many groups you'll find where every number in that group contributed to winning percentages.

      Between May 25 and June 15, 27 of these numbers, (2 4 8 9 11 12 14 15 17 18 21 27 29 30 34 36 37 38 39 40 42 46 48 50 52 53 54 55) made 8 consecutive five number matches, and the extra number 36 made a five number match on April 13 and another on March 13. I had to go back three months to find a drawing where none of these numbers hit. Those 28 numbers went 9 months between five number matches (June 10 to March 13) which is much higher than the once out of 39 average, but the percentage for one year is still 5 times higher than average.

      There probably are other groups of 28 numbers with similar streaks.


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        In another thread you said:

        "Exactly right Butch, our chances are better when we play more likely number groups. Right now I'm working on dividing the 5/56 game into 39 groups of 28 numbers each. Each group of 28 numbers (98,820 lines) x 39 groups = 3.85 million lines. Then analyze each groups winning percentages."

        Because so many numbers will be used multiple times in each of your groups, I'm wondering how many groups you'll find where every number in that group contributed to winning percentages.

        Between May 25 and June 15, 27 of these numbers, (2 4 8 9 11 12 14 15 17 18 21 27 29 30 34 36 37 38 39 40 42 46 48 50 52 53 54 55) made 8 consecutive five number matches, and the extra number 36 made a five number match on April 13 and another on March 13. I had to go back three months to find a drawing where none of these numbers hit. Those 28 numbers went 9 months between five number matches (June 10 to March 13) which is much higher than the once out of 39 average, but the percentage for one year is still 5 times higher than average.

        There probably are other groups of 28 numbers with similar streaks.

        (2 4 8 9 11 12 14 15 17 18 21 27 29 30 34 36 37 38 39 40 42 46 48 50 52 53 54 55) made 8 consecutive five number matches,

        Now that is a HOT set of numbers.......


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          Looks like your work could be very productive Stack.

          I'm getting my groups separated by line number, each group with 97,944 lines.

          Using first and last line in each group.........

          #1.                                       #2 97945                          #3 195889                            #4 293833

          01-02-03-04-05                     01-06-13-25-52                 01-12-17-32-56                     01-22-38-48-54 

          01-06-13-25-51                     01-12-17-32-55                 01-22-38-48-53                     02-05-10-26-41

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            Ronnie316

            Have you ever noticed that in PowerBall,

              that, white ball   41  seems to hit alot?

                    What about white ball   11?

             

            Since Jan.  of 2011   they've both hit over 20 times apiece

                    funny thing is....  only once together.

             

            White ball  41  hit alot with  whiteball  59

            Whiteball   11  hit alot with whiteball   56

             

            I could probably get some "fuzzy math" together  to show all this.

             

            So......if you throw in a parameter  like last 100 draws,    last 50 draws,     last 200 draws.....etc.

            we could get answers like     41 and 59       had a better chance than  other number combinations.

             

                at least two numbers would be a number combination          .......even out in the outter cosmos


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              Ronnie316

              Have you ever noticed that in PowerBall,

                that, white ball   41  seems to hit alot?

                      What about white ball   11?

               

              Since Jan.  of 2011   they've both hit over 20 times apiece

                      funny thing is....  only once together.

               

              White ball  41  hit alot with  whiteball  59

              Whiteball   11  hit alot with whiteball   56

               

              I could probably get some "fuzzy math" together  to show all this.

               

              So......if you throw in a parameter  like last 100 draws,    last 50 draws,     last 200 draws.....etc.

              we could get answers like     41 and 59       had a better chance than  other number combinations.

               

                  at least two numbers would be a number combination          .......even out in the outter cosmos

              It is a very good idea x, playing 2 fixed numbers with the entire 5/56 field requires playing 24,804 lines, which is about 1/4 of the lines we play using 28 numbers.

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                 Ground Control to Major Tom  (R-316)

                  you wanna try for a 3  outta 5?

                      41  and  59   (throw in a teen  16,  18,  15)

                      11  and  56  (throw in a 40       48,  47.  46)

                Mabey  RJ of Ohio

                          or Stack

                          or Raven62

                 can show us the most fixed combo  (2 number)  say   mabey since Jan. 2011?

                                         how about a 3 number combo?


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                   Ground Control to Major Tom  (R-316)

                    you wanna try for a 3  outta 5?

                        41  and  59   (throw in a teen  16,  18,  15)

                        11  and  56  (throw in a 40       48,  47.  46)

                  Mabey  RJ of Ohio

                            or Stack

                            or Raven62

                   can show us the most fixed combo  (2 number)  say   mabey since Jan. 2011?

                                           how about a 3 number combo?

                  3 fixed numbers only uses 1378 lines, the trouble is the odds are so high against a hit.

                  Just getting ONE number right is 1 in 11.2 

                  Two numbers correct is 1 in 154.

                  Three numbers correct is 1 in 2772.

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                    3 fixed numbers only uses 1378 lines, the trouble is the odds are so high against a hit.

                    Just getting ONE number right is 1 in 11.2 

                    Two numbers correct is 1 in 154.

                    Three numbers correct is 1 in 2772.

                     Thanks,

                    For the "not so fuzzy math"

                       ....still a little steep for my pocket

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                      Did anyone else notice that all 5 winning numbers in last night's drawing had been in the last six drawings which only had 21 numbers? This has happened 12 times since the last matrix change and every time the total numbers in the previous six drawings were less than 28. I've listed the dates for anyone interested in checking the data.

                      07/10/12 - 03 11 19 23 36 +21
                      05/22/12 - 10 14 35 43 52 +16
                      09/02/11 - 25 44 48 49 55 +20
                      07/19/11 - 02 09 10 16 35 +40
                      10/20/09 - 13 17 25 45 55 +08
                      08/21/07 - 08 38 54 55 56 +02
                      06/19/07 - 05 16 31 49 54 +19
                      02/16/07 - 17 35 40 46 48 +41
                      09/29/06 - 03 25 43 45 55 +40
                      08/01/06 - 14 29 32 43 49 +14
                      02/17/06 - 16 25 31 43 46 +28
                      12/13/05 - 09 10 12 22 41 +04
                      07/22/05 - 07 18 27 35 54 +34

                      Other times when the numbers from the previous six drawings were used, they covered four of the winning numbers 57 times and three of the winning numbers 196 times.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                         Thanks,

                        For the "not so fuzzy math"

                           ....still a little steep for my pocket

                        2 numbers is a great idea though. You could box 3 numbers and play those instead of 28 numbers and it would be about the same lines.

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                           Thanks,

                          For the "not so fuzzy math"

                             ....still a little steep for my pocket

                          Or you could play your 3 numbers with each of the other numbers one time for $28. Match all three and you'll have two 4 number matches, 26 three number matches and a chance to match all five numbers with 27 three number matches. Probably a better playing strategy for a 5/39 pick-5 with better small prize payoffs, but it's an option.

                          I'm still working the best pairs.

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                              "I'm still working on the best pairs"

                            Now  x1kosmic's   starting to get excited!!!!!!

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                               Stack47

                                "I'm still working on the best pairs"

                              Now  x1kosmic's   starting to get excited!!!!!!

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                              2024 = 12
                              0312 = 11
                              0910 = 11
                              0951 = 11
                              1121 = 11
                              1443 = 11
                              1450 = 11
                              1629 = 11
                              2248 = 11
                              2451 = 11
                              3136 = 11
                              5153 = 11

                              These are the most active pairs in the last 736 MM drawings. 20-24 have been together in 12 drawings.

                              04/06/12 - 02 19 20 24 33 +39
                              03/06/12 - 20 24 31 33 36 +44
                              12/20/11 - 20 24 27 45 51 +31
                              04/19/11 - 20 24 32 45 51 +43
                              04/28/09 - 15 20 24 36 44 +06
                              05/13/08 - 20 24 27 31 47 +15
                              10/26/07 - 12 20 24 38 51 +03
                              09/18/07 - 20 24 31 34 49 +08
                              11/14/06 - 09 20 24 25 36 +23
                              06/13/06 - 01 20 23 24 33 +29
                              10/14/05 - 06 20 24 25 34 +44
                              08/16/05 - 09 15 20 24 55 +03

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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