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Posted: July 24, 2012, 8:53 pm - IP Logged

Nobody has to prove there will be always a group of numbers that are drawn more than others because in the past it has always happened. You won't find any 12 drawing period in either game where all the numbers were drawn at least once. Even when all the numbers were drawn in 26 drawings, some of the numbers were drawn 4 or more times while others were only drawn once.

Good point Stack. Im looking for one of these groups to hit tonight.

#21 1958881                       #22 2056825                       #23 2154769                       #24 2252713

08-12-13-23-45                   08-22-26-34-36                   09-13-20-23-26                     09-25-34-38-50

08-22-26-34-35                   09-13-20-23-25                   09-25-34-38-49                     10-16-21-25-50

 

 #25 2350657                         #26 2448601                        #27 2546545                       #28 2644489

10-16-21-25-51                   10-45-46-51-55                     11-22-24-37-51                   12-17-21-24-29

10-45-46-51-54                   11-22-24-37-50                     12-17-21-24-28                     13-14-30-33-53


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    topnail hits 5+0 for the second time in 9 draws. AWESOME JOB TOPNAIL.

    RJOh hits 4+0 Awesome work. 

    Great work on all the 3+0 hits. I had a feeling topnail was on a roll.

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      topnail hits 5+0 for the second time in 9 draws. AWESOME JOB TOPNAIL.

      RJOh hits 4+0 Awesome work. 

      Great work on all the 3+0 hits. I had a feeling topnail was on a roll.

      From the beginning, I assumed there would be more five numbers matches than the 1 in 39 probability and maybe enough to create a reasonable betting strategy. By reasonable I mean something that could be played for around $100 a drawing and lowering the odds of winning $250,000 to under 1000 to 1 and effectively greatly lowering the odds of winning the jackpot.

      For starters I placed topnail's numbers in a simple 94 combo 3 if 5 unbalanced wheel just to see the results. While this wheel did exceed the guaranteed one 3 + 0 match by getting three matches, it didn't any small profit making four number matches. Because I placed the numbers into the wheel in numerical order, two of the drawn numbers were placed by least occurrences making it even more difficult to match four numbers. For actual play without any "best numbers" preference, a more balanced wheel is necessary.

      There are several other methods to reduce the size of the combos into "reasonable play"; I'm sure RJ has several filters that could be used. But the key of course is still getting enough five matches to make it all worthwhile. Matching four numbers helps to reduce the cost of play, but we need five number matches for the big bucks.


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        Ok. these are the real PB numbers for tonight but I think they suck and dont have a chance.

         

        4,8,9,10,13,14,16,17,20,22,24,26,28,33,36,37,38,39,40,41,43,44,48,49.50,52,53,55

        Powerball  8


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          Posted: July 25, 2012, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

          Ok. these are the real PB numbers for tonight but I think they suck and dont have a chance.

           

          4,8,9,10,13,14,16,17,20,22,24,26,28,33,36,37,38,39,40,41,43,44,48,49.50,52,53,55

          Powerball  8

          Did you siphon off all the P.E.F. from the cow yet?  That could be the problem.  Roll Eyes


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            Did you siphon off all the P.E.F. from the cow yet?  That could be the problem.  Roll Eyes

            Thank mc, it was after I had these sticky numbers that I went into a trance like state, siphoned the P.E.F. off the back of the cow like creature and posted the E.T. obtained numbers on the other thread that seemed more worthy (RJ's) of having them.


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              Posted: July 25, 2012, 8:32 pm - IP Logged

              I only see 2 of RJs winning numbers (09,51) in these 12 pairs.

              Tuesday, July 24, 2012   05 · 09 · 38 · 46 · 51    + 05

               

              2024 = 12
              0312 = 11
              0910 = 11
              0951 = 11
              1121 = 11
              1443 = 11
              1450 = 11
              1629 = 11
              2248 = 11
              2451 = 11
              3136 = 11
              5153 = 11

              These are the most active pairs in the last 736 MM drawings. 20-24 have been together in 12 drawings.

              04/06/12 - 02 19 20 24 33 +39
              03/06/12 - 20 24 31 33 36 +44
              12/20/11 - 20 24 27 45 51 +31
              04/19/11 - 20 24 32 45 51 +43
              04/28/09 - 15 20 24 36 44 +06
              05/13/08 - 20 24 27 31 47 +15
              10/26/07 - 12 20 24 38 51 +03
              09/18/07 - 20 24 31 34 49 +08
              11/14/06 - 09 20 24 25 36 +23
              06/13/06 - 01 20 23 24 33 +29
              10/14/05 - 06 20 24 25 34 +44
              08/16/05 - 09 15 20 24 55 +03


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                Posted: July 25, 2012, 11:27 pm - IP Logged

                Ok. these are the real PB numbers for tonight but I think they suck and dont have a chance.

                 

                4,8,9,10,13,14,16,17,20,22,24,26,28,33,36,37,38,39,40,41,43,44,48,49.50,52,53,55

                Powerball  8

                AS I suspected, not even a small chance of winning.

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                  From the beginning, I assumed there would be more five numbers matches than the 1 in 39 probability and maybe enough to create a reasonable betting strategy. By reasonable I mean something that could be played for around $100 a drawing and lowering the odds of winning $250,000 to under 1000 to 1 and effectively greatly lowering the odds of winning the jackpot.

                  For starters I placed topnail's numbers in a simple 94 combo 3 if 5 unbalanced wheel just to see the results. While this wheel did exceed the guaranteed one 3 + 0 match by getting three matches, it didn't any small profit making four number matches. Because I placed the numbers into the wheel in numerical order, two of the drawn numbers were placed by least occurrences making it even more difficult to match four numbers. For actual play without any "best numbers" preference, a more balanced wheel is necessary.

                  There are several other methods to reduce the size of the combos into "reasonable play"; I'm sure RJ has several filters that could be used. But the key of course is still getting enough five matches to make it all worthwhile. Matching four numbers helps to reduce the cost of play, but we need five number matches for the big bucks.

                  Since I don't play as part of a group I've never considered a $100 a drawing as a reasonable betting strategy.  At that scale the rules of the strategy would probably change, for example I wouldn't be concerned about the most likely 10 or 20 bonus numbers to hit.  It could turn out at that scale my win percentages would increase to the point that I wouldn't lose any more then I do now.  I'll have to add that to my list of things to consider when I get some extra time.

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                    Posted: July 27, 2012, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

                    Since I don't play as part of a group I've never considered a $100 a drawing as a reasonable betting strategy.  At that scale the rules of the strategy would probably change, for example I wouldn't be concerned about the most likely 10 or 20 bonus numbers to hit.  It could turn out at that scale my win percentages would increase to the point that I wouldn't lose any more then I do now.  I'll have to add that to my list of things to consider when I get some extra time.

                    When I planned on spending $20 a drawing for three weeks it was because I had $300 to risk, but I would have quit if I didn't get a four number match in 15 drawings. The betting strategy was based on a playing strategy that should get a four number match every 15 drawings and consistently matched 2 or 3 numbers. I lost $8 on the first drawing and $17 on the second, but won $292 on the third. Had I started with a $40 bankroll, I wouldn't have enough to play the third drawing. There was no guarantee I would match four numbers on one line even if I matched four numbers or three numbers when I matched three.

                    The question here is after finding a group of 28 numbers that we believe has a better chance of matching five numbers is how can we reasonably use it. The $100 a drawing figure was based on reducing the odds of matching five numbers to less than 1 in 1000 and collecting on some $150 four number matches. We could play all 28 numbers on just six lines but the odds are 16,380 to 1. By playing 100 combos and matching four numbers the odds of having them all on the same line is 24 to 1 and only 3 to 1 of having three numbers when matching only matching three.

                    The cost of play is reduced because we can expect several three number matches and some four number matches. However if someone didn't have $1000 they could easily risk, I wouldn't suggest making $100 a drawing bets.

                    I would suggest if betting $1000 for ten drawings was an option, use filters to reduce the number of combos to 100 because when the group matches five numbers and if all the filters pass, there is a guaranteed five number match. While using abbreviated wheels can lower the playing cost with nice overall odds, using the correct filters guarantees a large win.

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                      I see  the numbers were all odd again last night R-316

                        I'm thinking  of going to the bank

                          setting up a Christmas account

                             give it mabey $20- $25  bucks every payday.

                                    At the end of the year.......mabey I'll have $300-400   wheeling money

                      pull the trigger, and do something          just crazy.

                       

                       Congrat's on all odd   Group Hug

                        O.k. 

                            I've been to the Bank today

                      They said a Christmas account,   that the money Rolls into you savings on Oct. 31st,  that's when everybody starts  kinda shopping

                          but I wanna do something big around end of the year

                              So...... I secured $20 dollars in a  Vacation Club      you can pretty much get that when your ready.

                      Remember I wanna do something  BIG   around X-mas or New years,,,  so mabey at end of the Year I have   $200 -$300  dollars

                                                                                           Is Ronnie or anyone else mabey in?

                       

                      For the Time being    I want to try 20

                                         1-  2-  3-  6-  7-  9-  12-  16-  19-  20-  22-  30-  32-  33-  42-  46-  48-  51-  52-  53

                       

                      One of the things I did was Eliminate the numbers,    that not to many people like to discuss publicly   from the previous draw


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                        I too eliminated the last 5 numbers drawn and came up with these 28 numbers.

                        1,2,3,4,6,7,13,14,15,22,23,24,25,26,27,33,34,35,36,37,39,40,46,47,48,49,50,52

                        Bonus number 8

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                          I only see 2 of RJs winning numbers (09,51) in these 12 pairs.

                          Tuesday, July 24, 2012   05 · 09 · 38 · 46 · 51    + 05

                           

                          2024 = 12
                          0312 = 11
                          0910 = 11
                          0951 = 11
                          1121 = 11
                          1443 = 11
                          1450 = 11
                          1629 = 11
                          2248 = 11
                          2451 = 11
                          3136 = 11
                          5153 = 11

                          These are the most active pairs in the last 736 MM drawings. 20-24 have been together in 12 drawings.

                          04/06/12 - 02 19 20 24 33 +39
                          03/06/12 - 20 24 31 33 36 +44
                          12/20/11 - 20 24 27 45 51 +31
                          04/19/11 - 20 24 32 45 51 +43
                          04/28/09 - 15 20 24 36 44 +06
                          05/13/08 - 20 24 27 31 47 +15
                          10/26/07 - 12 20 24 38 51 +03
                          09/18/07 - 20 24 31 34 49 +08
                          11/14/06 - 09 20 24 25 36 +23
                          06/13/06 - 01 20 23 24 33 +29
                          10/14/05 - 06 20 24 25 34 +44
                          08/16/05 - 09 15 20 24 55 +03

                          0951 = 12
                          2024 = 12
                          0312 = 11
                          0538 = 11
                          0910 = 11
                          1121 = 11
                          1443 = 11
                          1450 = 11
                          1629 = 11
                          2248 = 11
                          2451 = 11
                          3136 = 11
                          5153 = 11

                          Remember MM stats can change after every drawing. MM has now had 740 drawings since its last matrix change.

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                            Hey, what are you doing here people? Is it some sort of "prediction competition? I'd consider participation with my GAT Engine for fun but I really can't figure your rules. Do you pick 28 numbers + 1 powerball? If so, can someone give me a link to this MegaMillion game to get the history?


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                              I have been working on a strategy of picking random numbers and eliminating them. The question is how many can be chosen for elimination before the odds work against me? We know that any 5 random numbers has a 62% chance of NOT showing up in the drawing, but what about 10-25?

                              I am going to pick several lines of 25 random number using my RNG to see which number hits first on each line after the drawing tonight. My guess is very few hits in the first 10 numbers.

                              9,5,50,23,32,48,21,42,36,6,46,1,52,44,8,31,41,28,51,55,47,27,49,53,3

                              Of course, the more lines I choose the less likely it is going to work well, so only 2 more lines.

                              19,26,52,9,40,18,12,2,39,42,4,33,13,5,20,24,54,30,55,16,42,28,6,25,38

                              36,28,51,13,30,48,25,49,22,47,6,1,31,16,34,37,4,18,52,55,32,12,38,11,23

                                 
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