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Posted: August 6, 2012, 12:25 pm - IP Logged

Yea....,

     I kinda bombed that draw   as  10  and  13   hit,

           I used the Test numbers from   Three draws ago.  (now 4)

I should have just gone with the previous Draw,  as none of them hit   (test only)

 

      From now on if I post some numbers for whatever reason    it'll be for that draw only

  unless I'm going with  advance play

                                                                            Gotta go think,,,,  think....think

I try not to "overthink" too much x1kosmic,

Odds favor any 5 random numbers NOT being a factor in the upcoming draw. I just have skills in duplicating those odds 3 times over. Next step will be 4 times over eliminating 20. (That's right, Im talkin skills here)

If I can reach a goal of eliminating 23 it would leave 33 numbers in play............

A 33 number wheel uses 237,336 combinations and a $250k win would cover the cost of playing until a JP can be hit.

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    I try not to "overthink" too much x1kosmic,

    Odds favor any 5 random numbers NOT being a factor in the upcoming draw. I just have skills in duplicating those odds 3 times over. Next step will be 4 times over eliminating 20. (That's right, Im talkin skills here)

    If I can reach a goal of eliminating 23 it would leave 33 numbers in play............

    A 33 number wheel uses 237,336 combinations and a $250k win would cover the cost of playing until a JP can be hit.

    Personally, I believe using a group of 28 numbers that only needs 1 out of 3 drawings to cover the cost of play is the better option because of the amounts you're talking about betting. After one loss using a full 33 number wheel, you'll be betting more than you can win my matching five numbers and the odds of hitting the jackpot are still 46 to 1. I know the bet is still hypothetical, but you have to factor in state and federal taxes on all the $10,000 and $250,000 wins and all the expected $2 to $150 wins won't offset the taxes or the losses if your 33 numbers only match 4.


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      Personally, I believe using a group of 28 numbers that only needs 1 out of 3 drawings to cover the cost of play is the better option because of the amounts you're talking about betting. After one loss using a full 33 number wheel, you'll be betting more than you can win my matching five numbers and the odds of hitting the jackpot are still 46 to 1. I know the bet is still hypothetical, but you have to factor in state and federal taxes on all the $10,000 and $250,000 wins and all the expected $2 to $150 wins won't offset the taxes or the losses if your 33 numbers only match 4.

      Hitting 1 out of 3 drawings is unrealistic. 1 out of about 20 would be twice as good as stated odds for MM. Also taxes only factor in after a profit is shown. In other words a person would have all year long to tally loses until a JB is hit.

      Im not sure if 237k combinations can even be plays but Im willing to try on paper to see if a JP can be hit. The key is picking a bonus number that doesn't take 40-60 draws to hit.


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        Personally, I believe using a group of 28 numbers that only needs 1 out of 3 drawings to cover the cost of play is the better option because of the amounts you're talking about betting. After one loss using a full 33 number wheel, you'll be betting more than you can win my matching five numbers and the odds of hitting the jackpot are still 46 to 1. I know the bet is still hypothetical, but you have to factor in state and federal taxes on all the $10,000 and $250,000 wins and all the expected $2 to $150 wins won't offset the taxes or the losses if your 33 numbers only match 4.

        I think your right Stack47, playing more numbers is too much trouble and they could not be played in a real life scenario (nor can I generate them) so I will stick with my original play for Tue. Aug. 7, 2012

        1 5 6 7 9 14 15 17 20 21 22 24 25 29 32 35 36 39 40 41 44 47 50 51 53 54 55 56

        Bonus ball 8

        9 - 17 - 51 - 53 - 55 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 51 - 53 - 56 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 51 - 54 - 55 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 51 - 54 - 56 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 51 - 55 - 56 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 53 - 54 - 55 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 53 - 54 - 56 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 53 - 55 - 56 ** 8
        9 - 17 - 54 - 55 - 56 ** 8
        9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 24 ** 8
        9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 25 ** 8
        9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 29 ** 8

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          Hitting 1 out of 3 drawings is unrealistic. 1 out of about 20 would be twice as good as stated odds for MM. Also taxes only factor in after a profit is shown. In other words a person would have all year long to tally loses until a JB is hit.

          Im not sure if 237k combinations can even be plays but Im willing to try on paper to see if a JP can be hit. The key is picking a bonus number that doesn't take 40-60 draws to hit.

          Im not sure if 237k combinations can even be play...

          Even if you produced 273K combinations with the winning one, it's can't do anyone any good if you can't play it.  What you need is a plan with the winning number that can be executed.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: August 6, 2012, 3:59 pm - IP Logged

            Im not sure if 237k combinations can even be play...

            Even if you produced 273K combinations with the winning one, it's can't do anyone any good if you can't play it.  What you need is a plan with the winning number that can be executed.

            So true RJOh, and as I said the key is going to be hitting the bonus ball with some frequency. No matter how many times we hit 5 of 5 using 28 numbers we Will not come out ahead without hitting the bonus.


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              Posted: August 7, 2012, 2:33 pm - IP Logged

              Here are my 15 elimination numbers for Tue. Aug. 7

              Friday, August 03, 2012   02 · 10 · 13 · 38 · 46    + 02

              49 27 26 19 4 30 43 37 10 42 

              Just sitting here figuring that playing 41 numbers is posible using a "fixed" number.

              Having one "fixed" number in a 41 number wheel creates 91,390 lines.

              Now the trick is getting the fixed number correct.

              Lets try, and see how it works.

              01 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 12 14 15 16 17 18 20 21 22 23 24 28 29 31 32 33 34 35 36 39 40 41 44 45 47 48 50 51 52 53 54 55 56

              Fixed number 28

              Bonus ball 8

              9 - 11 - 18 - 24 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 29 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 31 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 32 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 33 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 34 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 35 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 36 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 39 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 40 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 41 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 44 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 45 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 47 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 48 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 50 - 28 ** 8
              9 - 11 - 18 - 51 - 28 ** 8

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                I think your right Stack47, playing more numbers is too much trouble and they could not be played in a real life scenario (nor can I generate them) so I will stick with my original play for Tue. Aug. 7, 2012

                1 5 6 7 9 14 15 17 20 21 22 24 25 29 32 35 36 39 40 41 44 47 50 51 53 54 55 56

                Bonus ball 8

                9 - 17 - 51 - 53 - 55 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 51 - 53 - 56 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 51 - 54 - 55 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 51 - 54 - 56 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 51 - 55 - 56 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 53 - 54 - 55 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 53 - 54 - 56 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 53 - 55 - 56 ** 8
                9 - 17 - 54 - 55 - 56 ** 8
                9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 24 ** 8
                9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 25 ** 8
                9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 29 ** 8

                The main goal of playing a wheel is to increase your chances of winning by buying more tickets. I like to think small whenever I play.Winning $10k playing powerball or mega millions is always welcome.

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                  Posted: August 7, 2012, 2:39 pm - IP Logged

                  Im not sure if 237k combinations can even be play...

                  Even if you produced 273K combinations with the winning one, it's can't do anyone any good if you can't play it.  What you need is a plan with the winning number that can be executed.

                  You are correct, I have seen many players winning with 5 well chosen random lines. I have also seen players winning with a single self pick line.

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                    Posted: August 7, 2012, 4:25 pm - IP Logged

                    I think your right Stack47, playing more numbers is too much trouble and they could not be played in a real life scenario (nor can I generate them) so I will stick with my original play for Tue. Aug. 7, 2012

                    1 5 6 7 9 14 15 17 20 21 22 24 25 29 32 35 36 39 40 41 44 47 50 51 53 54 55 56

                    Bonus ball 8

                    9 - 17 - 51 - 53 - 55 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 51 - 53 - 56 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 51 - 54 - 55 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 51 - 54 - 56 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 51 - 55 - 56 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 53 - 54 - 55 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 53 - 54 - 56 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 53 - 55 - 56 ** 8
                    9 - 17 - 54 - 55 - 56 ** 8
                    9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 24 ** 8
                    9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 25 ** 8
                    9 - 20 - 21 - 22 - 29 ** 8

                    By finding a group of 33 numbers that consistently matches all five numbers, the total number of combos is reduced by 94%. Playing all 237,336 combos is probably not a good playing strategy, but if you could create a consistent subgroup of 15 numbers using all of them in four or five number combos, the play would be a more realistic 27,573 combos. And that's pretty close to the 1 in 10 ratio you're looking for. Using a 15 number subgroup of 28 numbers with four or five of those numbers in each combo reduces that cost of play to $20,748. 

                    I believe you're on the right track; you find a consistent group of 33 or 28 numbers that matches all five numbers and I'll show you how it can be played at a profit without wheeling all the combos.

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                      By finding a group of 33 numbers that consistently matches all five numbers, the total number of combos is reduced by 94%. Playing all 237,336 combos is probably not a good playing strategy, but if you could create a consistent subgroup of 15 numbers using all of them in four or five number combos, the play would be a more realistic 27,573 combos. And that's pretty close to the 1 in 10 ratio you're looking for. Using a 15 number subgroup of 28 numbers with four or five of those numbers in each combo reduces that cost of play to $20,748. 

                      I believe you're on the right track; you find a consistent group of 33 or 28 numbers that matches all five numbers and I'll show you how it can be played at a profit without wheeling all the combos.

                      Is he going to spend $20k if he wins the  jackpot on paper by grouping numbers? It is a waste of time man.

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                        You are correct, I have seen many players winning with 5 well chosen random lines. I have also seen players winning with a single self pick line.

                        "I have seen many players winning with 5 well chosen random lines."

                        Are you suggesting I should ask a clerk for 1000 QPs, choose the best 5, and then tell them to cancel the other 995 tickets?

                        I'm pretty sure if I asked for just 50, they would want $50, and tell me MM tickets can't be canceled.

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                          "I have seen many players winning with 5 well chosen random lines."

                          Are you suggesting I should ask a clerk for 1000 QPs, choose the best 5, and then tell them to cancel the other 995 tickets?

                          I'm pretty sure if I asked for just 50, they would want $50, and tell me MM tickets can't be canceled.

                          I need more details.Oh, I see you have not limit to how much you spend when it comes to playing the lottery.

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                            I need more details.Oh, I see you have not limit to how much you spend when it comes to playing the lottery.

                            Of course there is no limit Thrift. How are we supposed to conduct trial and error experimentation if we put a limit on ourselves. Stop conforming to THE MAN Thrifty.

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                              Of course there is no limit Thrift. How are we supposed to conduct trial and error experimentation if we put a limit on ourselves. Stop conforming to THE MAN Thrifty.

                              Ronnie, how many powerball lines did you buy for the $212M jackpot? I bought a single line. I played 5 lines on the previous drawing. 1 line will be enough for tomorrow drawing 08/08/2012. I am a big fan of the MADDOG CHALLENGE.

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