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# Do some number combinations have better odds?

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If someone does come up with 28 numbers that have matched five 10% of the time it will be interesting to know what is unique about the group and if their uniqueness can be applied to other lotteries.

It has never happened because the lottery knows the winning combination before it is drawn.

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I need to post the correct winners for Aug. 7, 2012. I was looking at the wrong results.

mcginnin56        5+0

Sorry for the posting error.

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I need to post the correct winners for Aug. 7, 2012. I was looking at the wrong results.

mcginnin56        5+0

Sorry for the posting error.

Congratulations winners. With 8 people playing 5+0 has been hit 7 times in 15 draws.

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Close to be a 5+0 match for my pick, 4+0 twice in 3 attempts in good anyway, still waiting for the 5+0 hit .

Actually I see little point in picking 28 numbers given the symmetry in wins probability, 0+0 has the same chance as 5+0, 1+0 is the same as 4+0,  2+0 is the same as 3+0. A more representative example would be to attempt and predict 14-18 numbers where any 3+ match would be considered a good pick and compete against the odds to prove that prediction can be done above odds. A 3+0 win would mean something in that case whilst in 28 picked means nothing.

For 14 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.44, 2 matches=1 in 3.66, 3 matches=1 in 12.19, 4 matches=1 in 90.86, 5 matches=1 in 1908.00

For 18 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.87, 2 matches=1 in 2.96, 3 matches=1 in 6.66, 4 matches=1 in 32.85, 5 matches=1 in 445.82

Here we don't have any sort of wins symmetry therefore the most successful predictions will come out of the rest easily. Just an idea anyway. I'll post later my submission for the next draw.

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Congratulations winners. With 8 people playing 5+0 has been hit 7 times in 15 draws.

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Close to be a 5+0 match for my pick, 4+0 twice in 3 attempts in good anyway, still waiting for the 5+0 hit .

Actually I see little point in picking 28 numbers given the symmetry in wins probability, 0+0 has the same chance as 5+0, 1+0 is the same as 4+0,  2+0 is the same as 3+0. A more representative example would be to attempt and predict 14-18 numbers where any 3+ match would be considered a good pick and compete against the odds to prove that prediction can be done above odds. A 3+0 win would mean something in that case whilst in 28 picked means nothing.

For 14 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.44, 2 matches=1 in 3.66, 3 matches=1 in 12.19, 4 matches=1 in 90.86, 5 matches=1 in 1908.00

For 18 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.87, 2 matches=1 in 2.96, 3 matches=1 in 6.66, 4 matches=1 in 32.85, 5 matches=1 in 445.82

Here we don't have any sort of wins symmetry therefore the most successful predictions will come out of the rest easily. Just an idea anyway. I'll post later my submission for the next draw.

You make an excellent point lottoarchitect, and you are welcome to try whatever variations you like. For me the challenge has become 5+1. Its kinda like the lottery (and the unbelievers)  telling me "you cant do it" and me saying "watch and see, Chump"

Consider someone who has billions of dollars and wants to play for entertainment purposes with an objective of hitting 5+1 without ever spending over \$100k per drawing.

With this scenario in mind, I have played 17 draws @ \$98,820. for a cost of \$1,679,940.

For simplicity I count a 10% pay out on the overall money spent plus 5+0 wins.

Total return on money spent is \$500k (two 5+0 wins) plus \$167,994 = \$667,994.

How long til I hit 5+1? We don't know because its never been done by intelligent design.

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Close to be a 5+0 match for my pick, 4+0 twice in 3 attempts in good anyway, still waiting for the 5+0 hit .

Actually I see little point in picking 28 numbers given the symmetry in wins probability, 0+0 has the same chance as 5+0, 1+0 is the same as 4+0,  2+0 is the same as 3+0. A more representative example would be to attempt and predict 14-18 numbers where any 3+ match would be considered a good pick and compete against the odds to prove that prediction can be done above odds. A 3+0 win would mean something in that case whilst in 28 picked means nothing.

For 14 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.44, 2 matches=1 in 3.66, 3 matches=1 in 12.19, 4 matches=1 in 90.86, 5 matches=1 in 1908.00

For 18 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.87, 2 matches=1 in 2.96, 3 matches=1 in 6.66, 4 matches=1 in 32.85, 5 matches=1 in 445.82

Here we don't have any sort of wins symmetry therefore the most successful predictions will come out of the rest easily. Just an idea anyway. I'll post later my submission for the next draw.

I  was  thinkink  18  or 19  numbers too

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 Posted: August 9, 2012, 12:54 pm - IP Logged

I  was  thinkink  18  or 19  numbers too

Better to opt for 18 numbers, with 19 numbers the odds are 2 matches come more often than 1 match. Going below 18 numbers will probably make even hitting 3 correct rather difficult.

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My submission for draw 12 August 2012:

GAT 25526          : 04 05 10 11 12 13 18 20 21 24 26 27 28 30 33 34 35 36 37 41 43 44 48 49 50 51 53 56
GAT 881787 (MB): 46 (05 18)

My submission is GAT 25526 + GAT 881787

and those I monitor their progress

GAT 175793 : 01 03 05 08 13 14 15 16 17 18 20 23 25 26 27 30 32 34 36 38 39 41 42 48 49 51 53 54
GAT 2488985 (MB) : 32 (17 12)
GAT 3584375 (MB) : 12 (32 17)

[reference data D=50 SD=20 RF=3]

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Close to be a 5+0 match for my pick, 4+0 twice in 3 attempts in good anyway, still waiting for the 5+0 hit .

Actually I see little point in picking 28 numbers given the symmetry in wins probability, 0+0 has the same chance as 5+0, 1+0 is the same as 4+0,  2+0 is the same as 3+0. A more representative example would be to attempt and predict 14-18 numbers where any 3+ match would be considered a good pick and compete against the odds to prove that prediction can be done above odds. A 3+0 win would mean something in that case whilst in 28 picked means nothing.

For 14 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.44, 2 matches=1 in 3.66, 3 matches=1 in 12.19, 4 matches=1 in 90.86, 5 matches=1 in 1908.00

For 18 numbers: 1 match=1 in 2.87, 2 matches=1 in 2.96, 3 matches=1 in 6.66, 4 matches=1 in 32.85, 5 matches=1 in 445.82

Here we don't have any sort of wins symmetry therefore the most successful predictions will come out of the rest easily. Just an idea anyway. I'll post later my submission for the next draw.

Your playing methods are not working. It is time to quit.

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You make an excellent point lottoarchitect, and you are welcome to try whatever variations you like. For me the challenge has become 5+1. Its kinda like the lottery (and the unbelievers)  telling me "you cant do it" and me saying "watch and see, Chump"

Consider someone who has billions of dollars and wants to play for entertainment purposes with an objective of hitting 5+1 without ever spending over \$100k per drawing.

With this scenario in mind, I have played 17 draws @ \$98,820. for a cost of \$1,679,940.

For simplicity I count a 10% pay out on the overall money spent plus 5+0 wins.

Total return on money spent is \$500k (two 5+0 wins) plus \$167,994 = \$667,994.

How long til I hit 5+1? We don't know because its never been done by intelligent design.

5+1? What are you complaining about? You are not the only one trying.

PLAY THE LOTTERY SOMEDAY-IT IS OKAY TO DREAM!

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The \$640M Mega Millions Jackpot was won with Quick Pick Tickets. Type the names of the 3 winners and you will see that the winning tickets were all quick picks. I posted one of the winning tickets in one of my threads.

The "70% to 80%" figures are just overall averages and don't apply when over 630 million more tickets than the average were bought for just one drawing. If just 20% of all the tickets were self picks, a minimum 26 million playslips were filled out. The average MM ticket sales for the last 26 drawings is around 20 million and because there was no significant size jackpot, it's possible 50% of those tickets were self picks. The players picking their numbers contributed to the total buying more tickets and those extra tickets were probably QPs. If the self picks average 10 million tickets a drawing, they would need another 120 million self picks to get 20% of the 652 million tickets sold.

I doubt I'd be very far off saying 97% of those tickets were QPs: there is nothing special because the three winning tickets were QPs.

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The "70% to 80%" figures are just overall averages and don't apply when over 630 million more tickets than the average were bought for just one drawing. If just 20% of all the tickets were self picks, a minimum 26 million playslips were filled out. The average MM ticket sales for the last 26 drawings is around 20 million and because there was no significant size jackpot, it's possible 50% of those tickets were self picks. The players picking their numbers contributed to the total buying more tickets and those extra tickets were probably QPs. If the self picks average 10 million tickets a drawing, they would need another 120 million self picks to get 20% of the 652 million tickets sold.

I doubt I'd be very far off saying 97% of those tickets were QPs: there is nothing special because the three winning tickets were QPs.

They were not self pick winners which proved my point.

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The "70% to 80%" figures are just overall averages and don't apply when over 630 million more tickets than the average were bought for just one drawing. If just 20% of all the tickets were self picks, a minimum 26 million playslips were filled out. The average MM ticket sales for the last 26 drawings is around 20 million and because there was no significant size jackpot, it's possible 50% of those tickets were self picks. The players picking their numbers contributed to the total buying more tickets and those extra tickets were probably QPs. If the self picks average 10 million tickets a drawing, they would need another 120 million self picks to get 20% of the 652 million tickets sold.

I doubt I'd be very far off saying 97% of those tickets were QPs: there is nothing special because the three winning tickets were QPs.

Excellent point Stack47, don't let Thriftys child like demeanor bother you. The reason they sell so many QPs is because that's what they advertise that people should buy. If you go to any of there sites for info on how to play the FIRST thing they say is "buy some QPs" and that's one very big reason to believe that THATS HOW THEY MAKE THE MOST MONEY.

LottoBoner talks about this all the time and he is correctamundo........

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Increasing your chances of winning the Mega millions or Powerball by buying more tickets will never change the fact that each Mega millions combination cost \$1 to play and \$2 for Powerball. I do not have to be a math genius to see it.

Spending more than \$1 or \$2 on MM and PB does not make any economic sense. You could have bought any of the past MM or PB winning combinations for the basic ticket cost.

Your get more value by winning the mega millions or powerball by spending no more than \$1 and \$2 for the winning combination. Economic 101 my friend.

"Spending more than \$1 or \$2 on MM and PB does not make any economic sense."

What doesn't make any sense is saying 34,450,517 different people all bought one PB ticket for last nights drawing. And some of those players spent an extra \$4,679,168 was spent on Powerplay. Do you really believe there 4.68 million Powerplay bettors?

"Your get more value by winning the mega millions or powerball by spending no more than \$1 and \$2 for the winning combination."

What exactly do you expect to win by only playing one MM ticket?

You're only getting a 1 in 75 chance of winning \$1 and a 1 in 844 chance of winning 9 bucks. Nothing wrong with buying a dream but that's about all you can expect to get only buying one ticket. Nothing wrong with buying a dream, but don't try to taut your logic as a sound playing strategy for anyone but yourself.

BTW, you have no proof the majority of winners only bought one ticket.

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