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Do some number combinations have better odds?

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Posted: August 13, 2012, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

That was an interesting experiment that didn't bear fruit, the only thing to do is take notes and move on.

I'm picking 10 lines for tonight's PB drawing trying something different.

Sounds like you want those old fruitless numbers taken out of play. Feel free to re post a new set with a bonus ball at any time.

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    Sounds like you want those old fruitless numbers taken out of play. Feel free to re post a new set with a bonus ball at any time.

    I have temporarily abandoned MM to play PB, as soon as I get back to MM I will be submitting a new and improved set of numbers.  The amount of research I put into my picks doesn't allow me to do both games at the same time.

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      I have temporarily abandoned MM to play PB, as soon as I get back to MM I will be submitting a new and improved set of numbers.  The amount of research I put into my picks doesn't allow me to do both games at the same time.

      Right on Homey. I'm feelin ya there.


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        Posted: August 14, 2012, 2:01 pm - IP Logged

        4 + 1 -- 24 -- $24,000

        3 + 1 -- 1104 -- $165,600

        2 + 1 -- 12,144 -- $121,440

        1 + 1 -- 42,504 -- $127,512

        0 + 1 -- 42,504 -- $85,008

        $523,560 - $98,280

        It's the fact you matched the bonus number and five of the numbers that makes the totals spectacular. Just by matching two numbers, the winnings would be $125,580 and zero matches would be $98,280. Had you equally distributed all 46 bonus numbers, you would probably had:

        5 + 0 -- 1 = $250,000

        4 + 1 -- 3 = $30,000

        4 + 0 -- 112 = $16,800

        3 + 1 -- 55 = $8250

        3 + 0 -- 2485 = $17,395

        2 + 1 --  385 = $3850

        1 + 1 -- 963 = $2889

        0 + 1 -- 752 = $1504

        And while it's still a nice hit, small compared to the effect of picking and matching only one bonus number.

        As an experiment, I put your 28 numbers (replacing the second 13 with another number) in the same order they appeared into a 4 if 4 abbreviated wheel with 4932 combos and a 5 + 0 match was found on line number 1117. While it's not a guarantee, it still proves it's possible to win a jackpot using only 5% of the combos. It won't help anyone who thinks $10 is a huge bet, but it is a more realistic way to play a 28 number group with one bonus number.

        Thanks again for your help Stack,

        I'm going to use Thriftys shotgun approach and buy up to 200 self picks (improving my chances of winning without spending any extra money)

        Can you boil down my 28 numbers to 200 or less?? I want to play 100-200 self picks tonight with the bonus ball 25, I'm not sure I can manually fill out that many play slips (anyone know of an app for that??)


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          I also think I am going to use Thriftys shotgun approach to buy 100 QP (buying multiple lines to increase my chance of winning, without spending any extra money)


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            Posted: August 14, 2012, 2:32 pm - IP Logged

            Im going out to get my QPs. Anyone need anything from the store??


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              Im going out to get my QPs. Anyone need anything from the store??

              I'll take an ice cold six pack of hops please.

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                Posted: August 14, 2012, 3:26 pm - IP Logged

                Thanks again for your help Stack,

                I'm going to use Thriftys shotgun approach and buy up to 200 self picks (improving my chances of winning without spending any extra money)

                Can you boil down my 28 numbers to 200 or less?? I want to play 100-200 self picks tonight with the bonus ball 25, I'm not sure I can manually fill out that many play slips (anyone know of an app for that??)

                It takes 20 seconds to fill out a board on a play slip, so you should be able to make out 40 play slips (200 boards) in a little over an hour.  You could spend that much time setting up an app and getting it to run correctly.

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                  It takes 20 seconds to fill out a board on a play slip, so you should be able to make out 40 play slips (200 boards) in a little over an hour.  You could spend that much time setting up an app and getting it to run correctly.

                  Ok, I can handle that but I was thinking of the future when I start playing 4932 lines. 

                   I put your 28 numbers (replacing the second 13 with another number) in the same order they appeared into a 4 if 4 abbreviated wheel with 4932 combos and a 5 + 0 match was found on line number 1117. While it's not a guarantee, it still proves it's possible to win a jackpot using only 5% of the combos


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                    I'll take an ice cold six pack of hops please.

                    Here is my measly little Twinkies bet of 100 lines. I asking if they were charging me any "extra" and they said no, so I'm within the rules of shotgun play.

                     

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                      Ok, I can handle that but I was thinking of the future when I start playing 4932 lines. 

                       I put your 28 numbers (replacing the second 13 with another number) in the same order they appeared into a 4 if 4 abbreviated wheel with 4932 combos and a 5 + 0 match was found on line number 1117. While it's not a guarantee, it still proves it's possible to win a jackpot using only 5% of the combos

                      With my budget of $20, I'm still trying to win PB with 10 lines and MM with 20 lines. 

                      Maybe I should step up my game but I'll probably wouldn't ever play enough that I would need an app to print the play slips.  I tried that once years ago with an app that came with LottoPro and only about half of the slips lined up right in my printer.  I have a different printer now but when Ohio changed vendors, they changed the play slips and the grid got even smaller so they might be even harder to print.

                      If you're planning to start playing over 800 play slips regularly, it might pay to set up a printer to be used exclusively for that.


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                        Posted: August 14, 2012, 5:28 pm - IP Logged

                        Elimination numbers for Tue. Aug. 14, 2012

                        RNG, 44 40 02 41 15

                        Friday, August 10, 2012   10 · 18 · 36 · 38 · 44    + 08

                        Numbers in play:

                        30 32 33 42 48 13 46 05 21 29 03 04 08 43 09 51 50 52 01 49 55 06 07 24 11 19 23 20

                        bonus ball 25

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                          Hello, ronnie 316, sorry google translation, google exchange significadosok
                             I like the study of genetics of the numbers (even and odd)
                          You can divide into four possible groups
                            example
                            pp = pair, pair = 42.46 ..
                            i.p and odd-par = 12.56,,
                          p.i-even and odd = 23.45 ...
                          i.i = odd and odd = 1.3, 5.7
                          Example 42 where the first digit is even and last digit is even
                          or tro example = 23 the first digit is even and 3 is odd
                            any lottery has the four groups, so you not only analyzes the endings but also with the first digit,
                            instance = 01, 15, 32 46 49 ip = pi ii p. p pi
                          You can add the even and odd for a draw in the above example = result
                            We = 01 15 32 46 49 = pairs = 0,2,4,6,4 = 5 pairs
                                                                          = 1,1,5,3,9 odd = odd (repetition noa matter, what matters is number of times)


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                            Posted: August 14, 2012, 9:58 pm - IP Logged

                            Thanks dr san, interesting study. I try to keep it a bit more simple, but there are others here who will like looking into it. I'm sure of that.


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                              Elimination numbers for Tue. Aug. 14, 2012

                              RNG, 44 40 02 41 15

                              Friday, August 10, 2012   10 · 18 · 36 · 38 · 44    + 08

                              Numbers in play:

                              30 32 33 42 48 13 46 05 21 29 03 04 08 43 09 51 50 52 01 49 55 06 07 24 11 19 23 20

                              bonus ball 25

                              Elimination numbers worked to perfection again, but only hit 2 of 5.

                              Tuesday, August 14, 2012     15 · 23 · 34 · 39 · 55    + 32      4    $36 Million
                                 
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