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Are QPs randomly generated numbers?

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Posted: October 6, 2012, 3:46 pm - IP Logged

That's a very good point  mcginnin56, but as Todd pointed out in the case of random number combinations (and some presidents I suppose) the character and record are of no importance whatsoever  What?

Its the quaity of the randomness that counts.....

So how long would you be willing to use these LP generated numbers, without any wins?


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    So how long would you be willing to use these LP generated numbers, without any wins?

    Good question   mcginnin56, but it just so happens that I understand the odds well enough to realize that when I play QPs (no matter their source) my objective is not "winning" as much as just making a casual "play"

    As I explained to Thrifty the other day, its just a bit of "thrill seeking" and entertainment. When I bought 200 QPs and hit 3 of 5 on two lines it was a big "win" considering the odds of getting 3 of 5 are 1 in 306 on MM.

    That's why I primarily use the LP resources and play a 2 if 2 wheel. 1 in 2000 odds are not great, but on the days that I have all 5 numbers in my group of 28.... it beats 1 in 3.8 million by a ratio of 1585 to 1.

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      This test is as good a place to start as any, but a real story would be told if one could somehow create two groups of players in a live drawing and have half of them use the LP generator and the other half use the terminal with both groups spending equal dollar amounts.

       

      I think we are tempted to see terminal picks as the best because of how many wins come from that grouping. This, however, follows the same logic of the conspiracy theorists who claim CA and NY win most of the JPs and the only way to have a fair chance of winning would be to play in one of those states.

      I'd be willing to do a small scale experiment for a few weeks. Granted, a really small scale. 1 terminal quick pick vs 1 LP quick pick and track the results somewhere. Being from California I'd also be willing to test the claim that most of the jackpot winners are from here Big Grin

      You know, in fact, I might as well just use those numbers for your "MM elimination" thread. If I end up putting together a really brutal unlucky streaky maybe it can help someone else eliminate some numbers for them at least, haha.

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        I'd be willing to do a small scale experiment for a few weeks. Granted, a really small scale. 1 terminal quick pick vs 1 LP quick pick and track the results somewhere. Being from California I'd also be willing to test the claim that most of the jackpot winners are from here Big Grin

        You know, in fact, I might as well just use those numbers for your "MM elimination" thread. If I end up putting together a really brutal unlucky streaky maybe it can help someone else eliminate some numbers for them at least, haha.

        You know my mantra: Everything works once.

         

        Well these states do hog up most of the jackpots but the point here is that they have a higher population out of which a greater number play the game and consequently fund those very JPs they win.

         

        I only ask for 10% off the top - lol

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          Good question   mcginnin56, but it just so happens that I understand the odds well enough to realize that when I play QPs (no matter their source) my objective is not "winning" as much as just making a casual "play"

          As I explained to Thrifty the other day, its just a bit of "thrill seeking" and entertainment. When I bought 200 QPs and hit 3 of 5 on two lines it was a big "win" considering the odds of getting 3 of 5 are 1 in 306 on MM.

          That's why I primarily use the LP resources and play a 2 if 2 wheel. 1 in 2000 odds are not great, but on the days that I have all 5 numbers in my group of 28.... it beats 1 in 3.8 million by a ratio of 1585 to 1.

           OK now I understand. There are two distinct types of lottery players. 

          Those that want to win some dough, and those that are seeking just entertainment, via the "casual play".

          It all makes perfect sense now.    Yes Nod


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            Glad to clear that up for you  mcginnin56, now you know...... winning isn't everything  What?


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              Glad to clear that up for you  mcginnin56, now you know...... winning isn't everything  What?

              Apparently not, and why should it be? Losing is so much more entertaining and dramatic.

              Maybe that's why Lucky calls himself a Loser!


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                Apparently not, and why should it be? Losing is so much more entertaining and dramatic.

                Maybe that's why Lucky calls himself a Loser!

                I admire Lucky,

                all lottery players are losers in the sense that we typically have to endure a lot of loses to pick up a win.

                I do still agree with Todd's original point that QPs are not a system at all, and as far as a strategy I would say a very weak strategy at best.


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                  I admire Lucky,

                  all lottery players are losers in the sense that we typically have to endure a lot of loses to pick up a win.

                  I do still agree with Todd's original point that QPs are not a system at all, and as far as a strategy I would say a very weak strategy at best.

                  I never disagreed with that assertion.

                  Many people win on QP's however, which is why I am anxious to see if anyone using the LP QP generator, is having any luck.


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                    Posted: October 6, 2012, 7:58 pm - IP Logged

                    The obvious deterrent would be the fact that filling out the slips is required for play and when it comes to losing, extra effort is definitely not a plus..........  Hard work and losing are not good bed fellows....


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                      Posted: October 6, 2012, 8:01 pm - IP Logged

                      Easy losing is definitely the only way to go.

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                         I bought one additional PB ticket and a Decades of Dollars ticket based on a number generated by LP.  We will see how they do.

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                           I bought one additional PB ticket and a Decades of Dollars ticket based on a number generated by LP.  We will see how they do.

                          Wow big spender!

                          Business must be good. 

                          Just keep in mind Ronnie316's golden rule: QP's are for entertainment purposes only, via the "casual play"    LOL

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                            Wow big spender!

                            Business must be good. 

                            Just keep in mind Ronnie316's golden rule: QP's are for entertainment purposes only, via the "casual play"    LOL

                            lol.  I am sure the extra $5.00 will not bankrupt me and I will skip buying my lunch at work (only do so one day a week) next week. I actually had a number of sets and picked the one which had a couple of numbers I had already picked.

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                              The Quick Picks are random numbers generated by the lottery terminal itself.  They are not drawn from a master list of numbers until the list is exhausted.

                              However, my feeling is that the random number generators built into lottery terminals tend to be pretty poor, very basic psuedo-random number generators.  They are fine for last-minute ticket buys, but if you have the time and you still want random numbers, I would recommend using Lottery Post's Quick Picks Generator, which uses a much better random number generator than you can find elsewhere.

                              There were stories about players buying over $100 worth of QP tickets getting duplicates and I believe one even had the same ten lines as on another ticket. I wouldn't expect to get duplicate combos buying 100 QPs, but if their program is truly random it should happen occasionally. The lottery called it a "glitch", gave the chances of it happening, and said they fixed the problem, but if the fix does prevent duplicates, doesn't that create of master list of "sold combos"?

                                 
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