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Help for Pick 3 players - Gaining an edge

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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: September 18, 2013, 8:17 am - IP Logged

I dont think he has a system. Its more called knowledge, strategy, intuition

Divide all 1000 numbers into groups.  Track analyze and trap groups..
Use progressive wagering.(make up your own rules)  lose some. Win more

In Ga the group. More odd More even hits the most...

Example

156
158
167
178
169
189
356
358
367
378
369
389
057
257
457
567
578
059
259
459
569
589
079
279
479
679
789

Just 1 example

You could group by Last sum digit

Lsd group 0 is

569
589
136
037
019
145
046
235
479
127
028
578

Many ways you can group the 1000 pool

I play due sums with due pairs, I do okay, it's all about the tracking I guess., good luck to you.

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For a lead role in a cage?

 

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    Posted: September 18, 2013, 12:17 pm - IP Logged

    Hi,

    I've expanded what you say here, some time ago, to 7 principles on how to win in Pick 3. See  my LP blog.

    Simulations show that playing singles is not as profitable as targeting doubles. It is 10 times easier to predict a double than a single. Additionally, doubles pay more money. Statistically, doubles are only 27% of all draws. But often they come in streaks, several in a row or in short span of time. At the turn of year I did some Pick 3 project for a fellow from Belgium. At that time their Pick 3 had 40% doubles in 1 month. Bonanza, if I could play their lottery. I will tell you why.

    I always wheel my numbers and play 8 at a time. This translates into 56 tickets for box play, either singles or doubles. Singles have only 30 - 40% winning ratio while doubles 70 - 80% and may even go higher - in one sim in one month I predicted 17 doubles correctly (doubles were drawn) and of these 16 were box winners.

    In all LP Pick 3 discussions not many, if any, pay attention or consider analysis what's drawn. There is a universal fixation on playing singles no matter what is the current ratio of singles to doubles. In one 2-week period in one lottery they were split 50-50. If you played singles at that time for that Pick 3, no matter how good your numbers were, you would loose 50% of the draws outright. I believe that's the main reason why people seldom win. It's not their numbers, they just play them wrong. With wheeling it is far more important HOW you play your numbers, not WHAT these numbers are.

    Many people still look for that one perfect system that will predict them winners - at least most of the time. Dreamland territory. Any system, particularly the ones based on stats have a winning potential. The problem is they all constantly fluctuate in efficiency - sometimes they win frequently, maybe even several times in a row, sometimes go blank for equally long time. That's why it does not make any sense to play one system all the time. Monitoring efficiency (I use backtracking for that) is of paramount importance. Play what's winning today, switch to a better system if your current one stops winning.

    Aquarius

    "Additionally, doubles pay more money."

    If the payoff is $500 to 1 singles, doubles, and triples all pay the same amount. A $1 bet on 6-way box is the same as betting 1/6 of $1 on six straight combos. A 3-way box is the same as betting 1/3 of $1 on three straight combos. The reason the payoff is more is because you betting more money on each straight in 3-way box. If you bet the same amount on a 6-way box the payoffs are equal.

    Another way to look at it, you're getting six chances for a $1 compared to three. With half as many chances, the 3-way box pays twice as much. Doubles pay the same.


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      Posted: September 18, 2013, 12:21 pm - IP Logged

      "Additionally, doubles pay more money."

      If the payoff is $500 to 1 singles, doubles, and triples all pay the same amount. A $1 bet on 6-way box is the same as betting 1/6 of $1 on six straight combos. A 3-way box is the same as betting 1/3 of $1 on three straight combos. The reason the payoff is more is because you betting more money on each straight in 3-way box. If you bet the same amount on a 6-way box the payoffs are equal.

      Another way to look at it, you're getting six chances for a $1 compared to three. With half as many chances, the 3-way box pays twice as much. Doubles pay the same.

      Doubles pay the same as singles if youre only playing straights

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        Posted: September 24, 2013, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

        Hi,

        I've expanded what you say here, some time ago, to 7 principles on how to win in Pick 3. See  my LP blog.

        Simulations show that playing singles is not as profitable as targeting doubles. It is 10 times easier to predict a double than a single. Additionally, doubles pay more money. Statistically, doubles are only 27% of all draws. But often they come in streaks, several in a row or in short span of time. At the turn of year I did some Pick 3 project for a fellow from Belgium. At that time their Pick 3 had 40% doubles in 1 month. Bonanza, if I could play their lottery. I will tell you why.

        I always wheel my numbers and play 8 at a time. This translates into 56 tickets for box play, either singles or doubles. Singles have only 30 - 40% winning ratio while doubles 70 - 80% and may even go higher - in one sim in one month I predicted 17 doubles correctly (doubles were drawn) and of these 16 were box winners.

        In all LP Pick 3 discussions not many, if any, pay attention or consider analysis what's drawn. There is a universal fixation on playing singles no matter what is the current ratio of singles to doubles. In one 2-week period in one lottery they were split 50-50. If you played singles at that time for that Pick 3, no matter how good your numbers were, you would loose 50% of the draws outright. I believe that's the main reason why people seldom win. It's not their numbers, they just play them wrong. With wheeling it is far more important HOW you play your numbers, not WHAT these numbers are.

        Many people still look for that one perfect system that will predict them winners - at least most of the time. Dreamland territory. Any system, particularly the ones based on stats have a winning potential. The problem is they all constantly fluctuate in efficiency - sometimes they win frequently, maybe even several times in a row, sometimes go blank for equally long time. That's why it does not make any sense to play one system all the time. Monitoring efficiency (I use backtracking for that) is of paramount importance. Play what's winning today, switch to a better system if your current one stops winning.

        Aquarius

        Well said, is all about the difference or should say, 'The relation between odds and probability', understanding this changes your waging strategy.

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          Posted: September 24, 2013, 7:12 pm - IP Logged

          Doubles pay the same as singles if youre only playing straights

          A $1 bet on 6-way box is the same as betting 1/6 of $1 on each of the six straight combos. A 3-way box is the same as betting 1/3 of $1 on each of the three straight combos. One bet has three ways to win and the other has six. One bet has half the chances of winning compared to the other bet so that bet pays twice as much. If your state lottery pays $167 on $1 3-way box, a double pays slightly more than twice as much.

          In states paying $80 for a 6-way box bet, a $6 box pays $480. If you bet $1 straight on each of the 6 ways costing the same $6, the payoff is $500.

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            Posted: September 28, 2013, 1:23 am - IP Logged

            Hey Ridge,

            Toast a cool glass of choc to 'ya!

            Thank you, homie. Cheers

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              Posted: September 28, 2013, 1:24 am - IP Logged

              With IQ being measured with not just the correct answer, a fastly answer improves the score. I would say that if one went thru and saw the truisms and speedy responses of your posts, they would know that you are a highly, highly intelligent man. 

              Your sir, are street smarts and book smarts all rolled up into one. And yes, there are a difference.

              You're as quick witted as anyone I know.

              Well thank ya kindly, Greenfox.

              I'm beholden to ya...

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                Posted: September 28, 2013, 7:51 am - IP Logged

                I agree with you on that comment!!!Smash

                Money is a terrible master, but a great servant...Smile

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                  Posted: September 29, 2013, 12:39 am - IP Logged

                  I agree with you on that comment!!!Smash

                  Thank you, Slick Nick.  Cheers

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                    Posted: October 3, 2013, 3:25 am - IP Logged

                    Well thank ya kindly, Greenfox.

                    I'm beholden to ya...

                    No sir, thank you!!! Your Dr. Hook rewrite is one of my favorite things to read when I need a good laugh.

                    And your not in any manner oweing to me.

                    You can't steal second and keep your foot on FIRST!!!

                    “Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
                    When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is strength”.

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                      Posted: October 3, 2013, 5:20 am - IP Logged

                      Why are you babbling on about nothing here? Much ado about nothing.. sound like one of those intelectual snobs who talkk for hours... and dont have a thing to say.. Thurston Howell the third.. why waste your time or anybody elses?

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                        Posted: October 3, 2013, 6:05 am - IP Logged

                         My intention was to provide ,in general, information on how to beat the game. That is, not to get too much into the specifics of any system.

                         But, how much more do you need to know? Even better, why do you feel that the information ,I've provided, is not enough? Why are you dissatisfied ,thus far?

                        Hi Pick3 Master,
                        Plz don't take this wrong, I'm eager to learn, and that's why I'm reading . So far I haven't seen where uv said anything worth while except the very first post.. still waiting on the bone..
                        Throw it..
                        Pil

                        P.S. I with no systems can probly pic two numbers 50 percent of the time or better...

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                          Posted: October 3, 2013, 9:05 am - IP Logged

                          Why are you babbling on about nothing here? Much ado about nothing.. sound like one of those intelectual snobs who talkk for hours... and dont have a thing to say.. Thurston Howell the third.. why waste your time or anybody elses?

                          "Why are you babbling on about nothing here?"

                          Well, just to annoy you, of course.

                          And looking through your previous posts, I see it doesn't take much.

                            rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                            Posted: October 3, 2013, 9:12 am - IP Logged

                            Hi Pick3 Master,
                            Plz don't take this wrong, I'm eager to learn, and that's why I'm reading . So far I haven't seen where uv said anything worth while except the very first post.. still waiting on the bone..
                            Throw it..
                            Pil

                            P.S. I with no systems can probly pic two numbers 50 percent of the time or better...

                            Pildriver,

                            When you notice somebody's avatar is gone -- they are too.

                            But your evaluation was right on.

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                              Posted: October 3, 2013, 9:27 am - IP Logged

                              No sir, thank you!!! Your Dr. Hook rewrite is one of my favorite things to read when I need a good laugh.

                              And your not in any manner oweing to me.

                              Glad you liked that Greenfox.

                              I forgot about that but found it with Search: http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/234355/2144487

                              Made me laugh a little my ownself.