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"Beating the House!"

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Posted: November 26, 2013, 5:39 pm - IP Logged

I seriously doubt that the person - 'Jack Thompson'- whp put up the OP has spent any time behind the tables.

The casino industry considers only two types of players can be consistent winners and they are poker players and some sports bettors.

But poker players aren't 'beating the house' because they are playing against and paying each other and the house rakes the pot. In some places that are strictly poker houses the house not only rakes the pot but charges an hourly fee to rent the seat, think about that one.

Sports betor have to have a 52.6% win percentage to break even. Most don't because they bet 'eith the public' and get slaughtered.

As for other games, the house knows that the longer a player plays the more they give the odds the cance to prove themselves, over and over and over ad nauseam.

The house (and bookies) also knows this, gamblers have a psychological need to lose.

They also know that at the end of the year hji-rollers are hi-losers.

See the last line in my sig.

Lep

I seriously doubt that the "person/alien" - 'Coin Toss' who responded with this post, has spent any time using a spell checker,

let alone any time measuring random.

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    Posted: November 26, 2013, 5:42 pm - IP Logged

    JT:

    Hope U have satisified UR "own" curiousity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lottey Post is D winner>>>>>>>>>>$$$$$$

    Psyko drives a SMART car and when I hit D "BIG" won gona buy 6 more>>>>won 4 everyday of D "WEEK"!!!!

    Beating the house is not in psyko's cards at this time but, building a house with D 7 car garage on top of list.

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      Posted: November 26, 2013, 5:47 pm - IP Logged

      Floh im Ohr?

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        Posted: November 26, 2013, 5:51 pm - IP Logged

        Jack Thompson,

        Thanks for the reply, I've got to give you that.

        From my side of it, I worked with a lot of baloney artists talking about how much they've won, and saw many players who were braggarts and that's all they were.

        Here's one for you, true story. We had a player show up, single dad, grown daughter, moved to vegas and talked about how he was taking out markers in one csino and paying them off with markers from another casino, over and over, different casinos. Talked about how many comps he got, etc. This was actually a check kiting scheme using markers.

        Well we get off work early one night and this guy is in a cab in front of the casino- waiting for a fare. It all caught up with him and he wound up driving a cab 12 hours a day to try and pay off his markers.

        LottoBoner,

        Pardon my typos.

        To each their own but I don't make predictions that I wouldn't play so see no point in it. Besides that, what dows posting predictions that may or may not actually be played have to do with beating the house? What's the best 'win' % of anyone posting predictions? How many predictions do you think are actually played by the person making them?

        "You bet your mind and you lose your mind."

        -Vegas saying

        Here, re: unplayed predictions:

        It is not the same thing to talk of bulls as to be in the bullring.
        - Spanish proverb

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          Posted: November 26, 2013, 6:09 pm - IP Logged

          Alright - I completely understand your point.  It is the most commonly accepted view among players.  And please excuse me for saying were wrong.  In polite society we don't do that.  I was wrong.  But OK, its been said that looking for consistancy in a random game is what the casinos and state lotteries count on.  Fools who think they can find it.

          But have you ever thought of using the "randomness" against the house.  Or even better, taking it out of the mix completely?  Dealing with probability not possibility and a "reasonable" expectation of winning?

          I spoke on this before.  Perception is reallity - So what's your reallity?  Are you a visionary or is your thinking limited to what you've been told is true?  These are questions you must ask and answer yourself.  And If I get enough people to participate in at least saying they don't know the answer I will enlighten everyone.

          By the way - I don't believe in "luck."  I think you make your own.

          And If I get enough people to participate in at least saying they don't know the answer I will enlighten everyone.

          OK, I call:

          I don't know the answer, please enlighten everyone.

          How many more responses do you require?

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            Posted: November 26, 2013, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

            And If I get enough people to participate in at least saying they don't know the answer I will enlighten everyone.

            OK, I call:

            I don't know the answer, please enlighten everyone.

            How many more responses do you require?

            I don't know the answer, please enlighten everyone.

            ogg

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              Posted: November 26, 2013, 6:18 pm - IP Logged

              JT:

              Hope U have satisified UR "own" curiousity>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lottey Post is D winner>>>>>>>>>>$$$$$$

              Psyko drives a SMART car and when I hit D "BIG" won gona buy 6 more>>>>won 4 everyday of D "WEEK"!!!!

              Beating the house is not in psyko's cards at this time but, building a house with D 7 car garage on top of list.

                                                                                Jester  Big Grin Santa Jester

              For some reason psykomo, I always find your posts refreshing  Smiley

              Keep them coming...

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                Posted: November 26, 2013, 6:59 pm - IP Logged

                Floh im Ohr?

                LOL

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                  Posted: November 26, 2013, 7:02 pm - IP Logged

                  And If I get enough people to participate in at least saying they don't know the answer I will enlighten everyone.

                  OK, I call:

                  I don't know the answer, please enlighten everyone.

                  How many more responses do you require?

                  how many is enoughWhat?

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                    Posted: November 26, 2013, 7:11 pm - IP Logged

                    I don't know the answer, please enlighten everyone.

                    ogg

                    I Agree!

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                      Posted: November 26, 2013, 7:12 pm - IP Logged

                      For some reason psykomo, I always find your posts refreshing  Smiley

                      Keep them coming...

                      I Agree!       Smiley

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                        Posted: November 26, 2013, 7:13 pm - IP Logged

                        how many is enoughWhat?

                        I think Jack Thompson has left the building !!!!

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                          Posted: November 26, 2013, 7:17 pm - IP Logged

                          I think Jack Thompson has left the building !!!!

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                            Posted: November 26, 2013, 8:09 pm - IP Logged

                            hummm... Interesting.

                             

                            Beating the house?  Well, I wouldn't say "beating" the house is possible, but exploiting probabilities IS possible.  Here's the twist that people are going to say is the funniest. I used to just randomly pick numbers and such just like gamblers do.  I lost plenty of money over the years, just as many have and most likely still do.  Being the thinker that I am, I started to think... there's got to be a way.  So I started studying (i wanted to win) and about 5 years later... I'm winning. 

                            Now, I say that to say this.  The numbers didn't change.  The "house" didn't change.  The odds, didn't change.  I CHANGED!  I figured that I would start paying (no pun) attention to the loosers.  Why are they loosing, what type of attitude do they have, what numbers are they playing (grannies blood pressure readings) etc.  I started doing the opposite.  With a plan, some discipline, a bankroll (large or small), resources, winning spirit, you can win more than you loose.  I do... every week consistantly.  Won the C4 on both draws yesterday and C3 midday today in GA.  Not bragging, just stating the facts.

                            I'm sure that you CAN win consistantly.  You can't tell me that there isn't a bet or bets,  in Vegas that'll give you a high chance of winning.  The key is NOT to keep betting.  I'm not the guy to "gamble" and have fun with.  It's business if my money is on it.  I play to win.  Before I started playing the lotto, I would go with some money, place about 3-5 bets and walk out with 2x - 5x what I came in with 15 minutes ago.  I don't really like the whole dance, but I do like to invest in things for profit.  I'm not blowing smoke, and I'm not selling anything.  I don't even use all of these sytems, tools, and such.  Hey if they work for you then go for it.  I just use common sense and let the lottery and time do the work. 

                            I just hope that you all can beleive that there ARE people out there winning these games consistantly.  Funny thing is that when asked, I tell people how I play and that I'm a C3/C4 winner, they smile, ask for advice, ask for the numbers that i play, and jump up and down.  When I see them in a couple of days, I ask them if they won the drawing last night, they say "no, but those darn doubles are due."  They just go back to what/how they were doing...losing.

                            If you step back and really focus as if it's a business, you can win!  As far as LP... ehhh can you really evaluate someones skill by looking at the scoreboard?  Only if they are focused on one game,  in one particular state or something. 

                            After the laughter dies down, let's talk some more.  There's some really smart people on LP.

                             

                            So there's my spin.  In all... You WILL lose, but is losing 'really' bad if you "know you're going to win?

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                              Posted: November 26, 2013, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

                              Well...  50 viewers inside of 20 minutes and not 1 answer!  That tells me quite a bit in and of itself.  In fact, it speaks volumes.  People play with no idea of how they're going to win.  Amazing!

                               l have yet to hear of a casino going out of business due to customers winning more than losing.That speaks volumes, dont you think?