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Posted: November 15, 2014, 7:27 am - IP Logged

Two points we could work together if you want

1.Get 12 numbers from random.org from 1-44 and compare with ours in a period of time.

2.I can wheel and filter any set of 20 numbers with my system  into less than 13 tickets,If you are some expert on filter and wheeling,you can compare my tickets with your filtered results from the same 20 numbers.

 

Hans

Strive to predict 8 tickets for 12 numbers with Max ROI for Pick6!

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    Hans

    Sounds like a plan, wish you well.  I won't be posting anymore lines until I do a little work on the predictor.

    I may however use another one to take it's place in the meantime.  I will also start a new topic and ask that

    no one post comments, ie only predictions. 

     

    I also reread a previous post and want to clear up a couple things where I did not make clear how the total

    lines were calculated.  It takes 12 lines to cover a pick-6 4 if 4 in 9 and 3 lines to cover pick-6 4 if 6 in 9.   I

    switched back and forth in my calculations and in a few places used the wrong results.  Calculating wheels is

    a bit more complicated as there are limits to the number of combos that can be squeezed into so many lines.

    Anytime the total matching numbers decrease the number of lines required for a certain match increase. 

     

    Any 9 numbers can be wheeled into 126 four number combo's.  Each line in a  pick-6 contains 15 four number 

    combos but wheeling is not that simple.  126/15=8.4 but it's impossible to squeeze all 126 into 8.4 lines and

    cover every possible 4of6 when the 9 number pool contains less than 6 correct numbers.  The fewest possible

    lines is 12.   If all 6 numbers are in the pool of nine then the total lines needed to cover a 4 of 6 is reduced to 

    3.  Anyway, after rereading the post I felt I needed to clear this up.

     

    RL

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    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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      Never mind,I hope you now realise how hard it is to make 4 match4 in a pool of 9 in 8 tickets.Its not that simple as a wheeling thing.

      The prize ratio normally can not reach so high for a 4 in 9 but I made it to over 2200%.

      And as I said,wheeling 20 numbers into most profitable tickets is my expert area,so you can challenge or ask me for cooperation,or whatever.

      I adjusted some value function in my system tonight,and the overall performance indicates it will generate better results.

      The adjustment took me 2 hours and I am too tired now to make more predictions for MO PICK6 tomorrow,so I will make prediction later.

      Since you will close this thread,I will try my best and make last time for 15th MO PICK6 with my adjusted system.

      Then I may probably not post lines under this thread.

      Hans

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          Posted: November 15, 2014, 8:57 pm - IP Logged

          Final prediction for tonight

           

          9 numbers
          06 40 26 02 14 38 16 10 09

          18 tickets=9 dollars investment.

          06 26 10 02 14 38
          06 26 16 40 10 09
          06 26 16 40 38 09
          06 26 16 02 14 09
          16 40 10 02 14 38
          06 26 40 02 14 38
          06 26 40 10 14 38
          06 26 40 10 02 14
          06 16 10 02 38 09
          06 26 16 10 02 14
          06 26 02 14 38 09
          06 26 40 10 02 38
          06 26 16 40 02 38
          26 40 02 14 38 09
          06 26 16 40 10 14
          06 26 16 40 10 02
          06 16 40 10 38 09
          06 26 10 02 14 38 

          Hans

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            Hi all

            I know this has nothing to do with the JP games but I started to do a little work on the predictor

            this morning and thought I would run back-test for both my P-3 and P-4 games.  The pick-4 evening

            draw yesterday it hit a straight and the pick-3 hit boxed.  I tested them for 100 games and the P-4

            had 2 straight hits and 6 box in 100 games and the pick-3 hit 7ea box.  The average lines for each

            game/prediction was around 35.  I  think the MO lottery pays $6000.00 for a pick-4 straight hit  so

            it would have won 12,000 on a $3500.00 bet playing $1.00 straight.  Not too bad, anyway I thought

            it was funny that the predictor hit both evening games on the same day the evening before I decided

            to change the code, maybe I should wait, LOL

             

            p-4

             

            p-3

            RL

            P.S.  I will start a new topic if I can get the predictor hitting better on JP games.

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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              Posted: November 19, 2014, 10:21 am - IP Logged

              Final prediction for MO PICK6 Wed, Nov 19, 2014

               

              Those 9 numbers were the same as the last drawing prediction.I didnt make a new prediction as I think it would be better to wait until the previous prediction hit until a new prediction shall be made.

               

              9 numbers
              06 40 26 02 14 38 16 10 09

              18 tickets=9 dollars investment.

              06 26 10 02 14 38
              06 26 16 40 10 09
              06 26 16 40 38 09
              06 26 16 02 14 09
              16 40 10 02 14 38
              06 26 40 02 14 38
              06 26 40 10 14 38
              06 26 40 10 02 14
              06 16 10 02 38 09
              06 26 16 10 02 14
              06 26 02 14 38 09
              06 26 40 10 02 38
              06 26 16 40 02 38
              26 40 02 14 38 09
              06 26 16 40 10 14
              06 26 16 40 10 02
              06 16 40 10 38 09
              06 26 10 02 14 38

               

              the cumulative prize ratio has dropped at around 280%.

              Hans

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                Final prediction for MO PICK6 Wed, Nov 19, 2014

                 

                Those 9 numbers were the same as the last drawing prediction.I didnt make a new prediction as I think it would be better to wait until the previous prediction hit until a new prediction shall be made.

                 

                9 numbers
                06 40 26 02 14 38 16 10 09

                18 tickets=9 dollars investment.

                06 26 10 02 14 38
                06 26 16 40 10 09
                06 26 16 40 38 09
                06 26 16 02 14 09
                16 40 10 02 14 38
                06 26 40 02 14 38
                06 26 40 10 14 38
                06 26 40 10 02 14
                06 16 10 02 38 09
                06 26 16 10 02 14
                06 26 02 14 38 09
                06 26 40 10 02 38
                06 26 16 40 02 38
                26 40 02 14 38 09
                06 26 16 40 10 14
                06 26 16 40 10 02
                06 16 40 10 38 09
                06 26 10 02 14 38

                 

                the cumulative prize ratio has dropped at around 280%.

                Hans

                Wednesday, November 19, 2014
                6 9 12 26 32 43

                Final prediction for MO PICK6 Wed, Nov 19, 2014

                 

                Those 9 numbers were the same as the last drawing prediction.I didnt make a new prediction as I think it would be better to wait until the previous prediction hit until a new prediction shall be made.

                 

                9 numbers have 3 numbers and 18 tickets have 5 match3.

                Prize ratio: (5*0.5)/9=2.5/9=27.78%

                 

                cumulative prize ratio:(89+2.5)/(22.5+9+9)=225.93%


                06* 40 26* 02 14 38 16 10 09*

                18 tickets=9 dollars investment.

                06* 26* 10 02 14 38
                06* 26* 16 40 10 09*  match3
                06* 26* 16 40 38 09* match3
                06* 26* 16 02 14 09 *match3
                16 40 10 02 14 38
                06* 26* 40 02 14 38
                06* 26* 40 10 14 38
                06* 26* 40 10 02 14
                06* 16 10 02 38 09* match3
                06* 26* 16 10 02 14
                06* 26* 02 14 38 09* match3
                06* 26* 40 10 02 38
                06* 26* 16 40 02 38
                26* 40 02 14 38 09*
                06* 26* 16 40 10 14
                06* 26* 16 40 10 02
                06* 16 40 10 38 09*
                06* 26* 10 02 14 38

                 

                It is a pity that 2 last digit have two winning numbers 12 32 and my 02 didn't hit.If it were correct,I would have predicted 3 match4 as the first time.so the conclusion is that the initial 6 last digit input  is very important.

                Hans

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                  Hans

                  You banked on digit 6 again,  I also noticed that you played 3ea sd=6 number sets.  Look at the chart

                  below which shows the number of times the digit 6 shows for the game.  The way your playing digits I

                  think it's going to max out at 3of6 most draws.  Why would you ever play 3 numbers with the same second

                  digit after the stats I showed you in a previous post.  Even playing 2 was a stretch.   Playing 3ea digit 6's

                  in a single line will it only happens around once every 3 years.  Using any other number for the third one

                  would have improved your chances of a better hit had you got more than 3 in 9. Match 3 equals a free play.

                  not much to the bottom line.

                  Do you know the total number of lines you have posted for this game.  I suggest you add them all up and

                  then calculate the ROI based on those totals.  Total winnings divided by the number of lines divided by 2.

                  RL

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                    Hans

                    You banked on digit 6 again,  I also noticed that you played 3ea sd=6 number sets.  Look at the chart

                    below which shows the number of times the digit 6 shows for the game.  The way your playing digits I

                    think it's going to max out at 3of6 most draws.  Why would you ever play 3 numbers with the same second

                    digit after the stats I showed you in a previous post. 

                    LAST DIGIT 6 I predicted 06 26 16

                     

                    06 40 26 02 14 38 16 10 09

                     

                    I don't know which numbers will be drawn among 06 26 16.If I played only two numbers among 06 26 16 I could have deleted the winning number 06 or 26.

                    Even playing 2 was a stretch. 

                     

                    It was my prediction issue,that I missed the winning number 12 32.If 12 were predicted instead of 02,then my 18 tickets had 3 match4.

                     Playing 3ea digit 6's

                    in a single line will it only happens around once every 3 years.  Using any other number for the third one

                    would have improved your chances of a better hit had you got more than 3 in 9. Match 3 equals a free play.

                    not much to the bottom line.

                    Do you know the total number of lines you have posted for this game. 

                    I predicted 18 tickets or lines,9 dollars investment.

                     

                    I suggest you add them all up and

                    then calculate the ROI based on those totals.  Total winnings divided by the number of lines divided by 2.

                     

                    I don't get what you mean by ROI.What do you mean by that and what do you mean by totals and divided by 2?

                    RL

                     

                    06* 40 26* 02 14 38 16 10 09*

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                      Here is a cover master wheel.

                      1,2,3,4,5,6
                      1,2,3,7,8,9
                      4,5,6,7,8,9
                      1,2,4,5,7,8
                      1,3,4,6,7,9
                      2,3,5,6,8,9
                      1,2,3,4,5,9
                      1,2,3,4,6,8
                      1,2,3,5,6,7

                      I wheeled your 9 numbers in the same order you posted them.  9 lines with 3ea 3of6 hits.  If a player would

                      have played each line twice for a total of 18 then it would have produced 6ea 3of6 instead of 5.  Kind of backs

                      up my point of using proven wheels. 

                      Sets generated by Cover master wheel

                      02 06 14 26 38 40
                      06 09 10 16 26 40
                      02 09 10 14 16 38
                      02 06 10 14 16 40
                      02 06 09 16 26 38
                      09 10 14 26 38 40
                      02 06 09 14 26 40
                      02 06 10 26 38 40
                      06 14 16 26 38 40

                      Notice that some of these lines did not have all 3, 6 digit numbers and it still performed well.

                      ROI = return on investment, or your winnings after subtracting the cost.  In other words the

                      bottom line, how much did your play earn.

                      RL

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                        Hans

                        Here is a cover master wheel.

                        1,2,3,4,5,6
                        1,2,3,7,8,9
                        4,5,6,7,8,9
                        1,2,4,5,7,8
                        1,3,4,6,7,9
                        2,3,5,6,8,9
                        1,2,3,4,5,9
                        1,2,3,4,6,8
                        1,2,3,5,6,7

                        I wheeled your 9 numbers in the same order you posted them.  9 lines with 3ea 3of6 hits.  If a player would

                        have played each line twice for a total of 18 then it would have produced 6ea 3of6 instead of 5.  Kind of backs

                        up my point of using proven wheels. 

                        Sets generated by Cover master wheel

                        02 06 14 26 38 40
                        06 09 10 16 26 40
                        02 09 10 14 16 38
                        02 06 10 14 16 40
                        02 06 09 16 26 38
                        09 10 14 26 38 40
                        02 06 09 14 26 40
                        02 06 10 26 38 40
                        06 14 16 26 38 40

                        Notice that some of these lines did not have all 3, 6 digit numbers and it still performed well.

                        ROI = return on investment, or your winnings after subtracting the cost.  In other words the

                        bottom line, how much did your play earn.

                        RL

                        using lotto-logix wheel would be better than my 18 tickets,one more match3 appears in 18 tickets,which improves the prize ratio a little bit.

                        3 tickets have one match3,so 18 tickets would have also 6 match3.

                         

                        BALANCED ECONOMY WHEEL

                         

                        For 9 Numbers In 3 Combinations

                         

                        Prize Winning Power

                        3 if 3 = 67.86% ... 4 if 4 = 35.71% ... 5 if 5 = 14.28%
                        3 if 4 = 100.0% ... 4 if 5 = 100.0% ... 5 if 6 = 67.86%
                        3 if 5 = 100.0% ... 4 if 6 = 100.0%
                        3 if 6 = 100.0%

                         

                        To Use This Wheel: Print out a copy on your printer using your browser's print option on the tool bar. Write your numbers below my Pointer Numbers, then use them as you would a child's code wheel to exchange your numbers for mine in the combinations below. This is a Balanced Wheel, so you may rank your numbers below mine, in any order you like best.

                         

                         

                        Pointer Numbers: 01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09

                         

                        01)..01-02-03-07-08-09 . . 02)..01-04-05-06-07-08 . . 03)..02-03-04-05-06-09

                         

                        All rights reserved, copyright Lotto-Logix 1999-2000

                         

                         

                        But,the problem is what's your wheel Prize Winning Power?

                        My 18 tickets could have produced 3 match4 if 02 were the winning number while lotto-logix wheel could have only one match4 with 35.71% chance,because  4 if 4 = 35.71%.

                         

                        And for match2,lotto-logix wheel generates 6 match2 in 18 tickets while my 18 tickets have 12 match2

                         

                        1,2,3,4,5,6
                        1,2,3,7,8,9
                        4,5,6,7,8,9
                        1,2,4,5,7,8
                        1,3,4,6,7,9
                        2,3,5,6,8,9
                        1,2,3,4,5,9
                        1,2,3,4,6,8
                        1,2,3,5,6,7

                         

                        your wheel generates 8 match2,so my 18 tickets are better for match2 and match4 while match3 prize ratio is not too away from yours.

                         

                        06* 40 26* 02 14 38 16 10 09*

                        18 tickets=9 dollars investment.

                        06* 26* 10 02 14 38 match2
                        06* 26* 16 40 10 09*  match3
                        06* 26* 16 40 38 09* match3
                        06* 26* 16 02 14 09 *match3
                        16 40 10 02 14 38
                        06* 26* 40 02 14 38 match2
                        06* 26* 40 10 14 38 match2
                        06* 26* 40 10 02 14 match2
                        06* 16 10 02 38 09* match3
                        06* 26* 16 10 02 14 match2
                        06* 26* 02 14 38 09* match3
                        06* 26* 40 10 02 38 match2
                        06* 26* 16 40 02 38 match2
                        26* 40 02 14 38 09*match2
                        06* 26* 16 40 10 14 match2
                        06* 26* 16 40 10 02 match2
                        06* 16 40 10 38 09*match2
                        06* 26* 10 02 14 38 match2

                         

                        so I don't see the point of yours "Kind of backs up my point of using proven wheels."

                         

                        I told you I have not met any wheel that could beat my prize ratio by wheeling the same number.If you could beat mine,I will be amazed.

                        Hans

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                          Next  3  Draws

                          3 - 4 - 10 - 14 - 18 - 21

                          3 - 10 - 14 - 18 - 21 - 23

                          3 - 14 - 18 - 21 - 23 - 25

                          4 - 10 - 14 - 18 - 21 - 23

                          4 - 14 - 18 - 21 - 23 - 25

                          10 - 14 - 18 - 21 - 23 - 25

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                            Hans

                            Below is a link to a video of the pick-6 [3 if 3 of 6 in 9] wheel.   I first put in the 6 winning numbers

                            to test it against a 6 if 6 in 9 selection.  The first run managed a 6 of 6 hit using the 3 if 3 wheel.  I

                            then pressed the randomize button which randomizes the order the of the 9 numbers selected shown

                            at the top of the program and ran it again.

                            I did this several times and you can see the results.  Next I remove one of the winning numbers and

                            replace it with a non-hitting number so that I have a 5 of 6 in 9 and run it several times randomizing the

                            order each run. 

                            Finally I remove another winning number so that I now have 4 of 6 in the 9 numbers being wheeled.  You

                            can see the results for each test.  You can see that this 3 if 3 of 6 in 9 wheel does very good at hitting the

                            higher level prizes even though it is not designed to do so.  I did not show any results for the 3of6 to keep

                            the video short as possible but it has trapped as many as 5ea 3 of 6 in 9 lines. 

                             

                            I can copy and paste any wheel or numbers posted here and run them in the program and don't need to to

                            it by hand.  The number of prizes produced is determined by the order in which they are passed to the wheel.

                            Running this wheel twice using the randomize order option will produce about as good as results as one can

                            hope for in 18 lines regardless of the number of x in 9.   As I said before it's the numbers selected to wheel 

                            that is important here.

                               

                            https://app.box.com/s/3uu4k6lsghupm0bc7zl6

                             

                            RL

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                            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

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                              Hans

                              Here"s another tip.  When using my DMP software I track what I call base digits hits per line.

                              Base digits are digits 1-2-3.  In a pick-6 game there are 12 possible positions in every line as

                              I count 2 positions for each number, even if the number is below 10.  In the pics below you can

                              see how many of the 12 positions are covered by base digits.  In the last drawing 6 of the 12 

                              digit positions were taken by digits 1-2-3.   In the list you can see that as many as 9 of the 12

                              have all been 1-2-3 in past games.  The second pic shows the total number of base digit hits

                              in the last 1000 games.  These totals are not random but a product of population and distribution

                              of the matrix.  Meaning if 27.2% of the possible lines in the matrix have 6 base digits then 27.2%

                              of the drawings will also have 6 base digits.  From this one can calculate a range to cover a large

                              percent of drawings.  Using this could enhance you number selection and aid in building lines that

                              have a better chance of hitting more numbers.

                              The line 6-9-12-26-32-43 has 6 base digits as shown in the first digit in the pic below.  Tracking

                              digit 4 for this game can also be a great help.  If digit 4 is believed to be a no-show then 9 numbers can

                              be removed from the list of 44 and your remaining digits will come from 5-6-7-8-9-0.  This will improve your

                              odds for hitting more numbers in your pool of 9.  Also notice that al 3 base digits showed at least once in

                              this set. 

                              digit 1 = 1

                              digit 2 = 3

                              digit 3 = 2

                              RL

                              base 1

                              base 2

                              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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