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Any Pick3 system with past performace proof?

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That's nice to win 70 grand a year or even 10 grand in a month. But I would advise you, before you jump head first into this water, to find out from a RELIABLE SOURCE, how much was spent to win these big grands. Get some stats on that first. That's the bottom line. Don't look only at winnings, no matter how appealing they look. They never come for free.

CrazyI know, I'd also spend more than I won for five years. Why? I just love to throw away money.


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    I Agree!I know I've posted on this guy before. Onlymoney should save his  money. Listen why would you have to tweak something that works so well? I said it before there is no evidence that this guy made all this money,. I believe it's fictitious. But yet onlymoney has heard of him. Steve PLayer calls it his private stock only to create the illusion that this "is the system that he uses to make money." If that were the case and everyone won as much as "St. Pierre" the lottery would shut down the game. Steve Players systems have all been scrutinized and no one has anything good to say about them or that even work. I also  spent money on him only to find his garbage doesn't work. Good luck with that onlymoney. I do hope you find something of value, but don't be surprised when you find out we told you so and the fictitious Inspector St. Pierre.

    Listen why would you have to tweak something that works so well?

    Maybe it only works well when it's tweaked.

     

    So you're saying the NH lottery is breaking the law by depicting a ficticious person winning for five years? Crazy

    No, I'm not the only one who's seen his wins.

    No, not everyone would be rich using that system, if indeed it does work. Why? Because 90% or more of people are like you who don't believe that it could possibly work, therefore you and the 90% plus, wouldn't buy it in the first place to find out.

    Most of Steve's systems ar garbage, but I did win a few grand on one of his systems years ago. I'm sure some luck was involved, but I wouldn't have won had i not used his system.

    This may end up being more of his garabage, but I've seen more than overwhelming evidence that connects the two together to be mere coincidence.

    75 bucks isn't much for me to find out.

    I'd rather chase this kind of dream that's much more attainable, than chasing some multimillion dollar JP that I only have about 0.1% of winning in my lifetime. I'd be happy with 70 grand a year for just filling out a few play slips.


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      Well good luck with that.Disapprove yes odds are better but anyone playing any lottery is still dreaming. I'm curious who else has seen his wins? Was he on tv?I contacted NH lottery months ago to see if he really existed  when we first had this post. You insisted he was real, well   they never heard of such a person. And if he was winning for 5 yrs, why did he stop? Where was his name posted? Unless you saw him with pictures holding a check or checks I refuse to believe it. The NH lottery doesn't believe it either. But good luck on your $75 investment.

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        I own both of Steve Players Pick 3 and Pick 4 Private stock systems. The Pick 3 system is 12 groups of 10 Single Digit numbers to play, groups A - L. You do the workout and play only one group of 10 numbers, 3 days after a particular drawing.  Likewise, Pick 4 Private stock is 12 groups of 30 Pick 4 DOUBLES to play, groups A - L.  You do the workout and play only one group of 30 Double numbers, 3 days after a particular drawing.

        ALL of Steve Players winning tickets that he depicts in his advertisements, are from his own state, New Hampshire.  Thus, if you are going to backtest these systems, you need to do so in New Hampshire first, to verify that these systems work in New Hampshire [Tri State area]. 

        I have tested these systems in SC & NC, and they may hit once a week, depending upon what drawing you use to test [i.e. a particular day of the week, Sun - Sat, and Midday or Evening drawing].  Thus, there are several factors involved in getting a weekly HIT from these systems, on a consistent basis.  It gets to be expensive just trying. The 3 day rule is not set in stone either.

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          I own both of Steve Players Pick 3 and Pick 4 Private stock systems. The Pick 3 system is 12 groups of 10 Single Digit numbers to play, groups A - L. You do the workout and play only one group of 10 numbers, 3 days after a particular drawing.  Likewise, Pick 4 Private stock is 12 groups of 30 Pick 4 DOUBLES to play, groups A - L.  You do the workout and play only one group of 30 Double numbers, 3 days after a particular drawing.

          ALL of Steve Players winning tickets that he depicts in his advertisements, are from his own state, New Hampshire.  Thus, if you are going to backtest these systems, you need to do so in New Hampshire first, to verify that these systems work in New Hampshire [Tri State area]. 

          I have tested these systems in SC & NC, and they may hit once a week, depending upon what drawing you use to test [i.e. a particular day of the week, Sun - Sat, and Midday or Evening drawing].  Thus, there are several factors involved in getting a weekly HIT from these systems, on a consistent basis.  It gets to be expensive just trying. The 3 day rule is not set in stone either.

           destinycreation,

          I have made some backtests for NH both P3 & P4 more than two months by using his system just

          now.  But it's still NOTHING!!! 

          Saying NOTHING means we can not get the real profit (not the wins) constantly

          I think firmly that no one wants to spend $200 plus for getting $100 or $0

          by using a system weekly.

          In fact, some members always said: these SYSTEMS should work if they are TWEAKED.

          But we have never looked any tweaking activities about those systems such as Boomerang x4

          ...until now.

          The most things we looked at here just is the introductions about those "SYSTEMS".

          So it's still some disguised forms of advertising.

          • Saying Lotto #s Can be Predicted means that Lotto's ODD can be reduced down  to an economical level by a system.
          • Saying a Lotto System Works means that we can win constantly (not each draw)  and economically (get a real profit) by using the System.
          • Practice is the only criterion for testing truth.
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            Hey OM,

            I wanna invest $75 too, so I can twerk it my way. 

            Please send me a link in PM, please. 

            The lottery is random, ok I get it.

            But, if we really do our research and give excellent effort to our workouts, we'll win very oftenly.

            Who agrees? Big Grin


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              Well good luck with that.Disapprove yes odds are better but anyone playing any lottery is still dreaming. I'm curious who else has seen his wins? Was he on tv?I contacted NH lottery months ago to see if he really existed  when we first had this post. You insisted he was real, well   they never heard of such a person. And if he was winning for 5 yrs, why did he stop? Where was his name posted? Unless you saw him with pictures holding a check or checks I refuse to believe it. The NH lottery doesn't believe it either. But good luck on your $75 investment.

              I've mentioned this before a few times already.

              The NH Lottery website stopped displaying the monthly winners a few months ago. No red flags come to your mind? Especially when I posted his wins. It's in the blue link I posted.

              Where do you think I copied and pasted those wins from?


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                Hey OM,

                I wanna invest $75 too, so I can twerk it my way. 

                Please send me a link in PM, please. 

                The lottery is random, ok I get it.

                But, if we really do our research and give excellent effort to our workouts, we'll win very oftenly.

                Who agrees? Big Grin

                Links not allowed. I gave enough general info. Look back a few pages.

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                  Links not allowed. I gave enough general info. Look back a few pages.

                  I requested the link through Private Message though? You can't send it through PM? Why not?

                  We could talk about blowing up the moon with a marshmallow gun through PM. That's not against the rules because we're talking privately, not publicly.

                  **EDIT**

                  Just read the rules. It is NOT allowed to send members to banned sites, even through PM.

                  However, I'm pretty sure that site you're gonna purchase the$75 system is not on Todd's ban list.

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                    I do believe there are two possible explanations for those who win frequently. One, playing a lot and increasing the frequency of winning, or two, they have intuition. Yes, i believe people can have the gift of intuition when it comes to numbers. I don't claim to understand intuition, but i have seen enough from my own experiences and others throughout my life to know that natural intuition does exist in many forms. I am not necessarily speaking on a level of voodoo or magic per say, just referring to one with good intuition or foresight with predicting numbers. So yes, i agree there are some things that escape the understanding of science and math, doesn't mean though that one day science and math will not eventually find a bases to understand it. Time will tell. I think some folks can pull this off with reasonable success with P3/P4 games given it may be easier for them to narrow down picks if they are intuitively good at picking winning numbers, but note we rarely see repeat winners with larger JP drawings given it is based on a larger spread of numbers with more numbers to correctly pick among. That understandably presents far more challenges then a P3/P4 game does. 

                    Now each lottery player has their own beliefs and practices, nothing wrong with that and i am not here to debate what others choices are or why, but for me, i do not believe there is a system (formula) based on math or science that can predict the next numbers to be drawn. The reason why i do not subscribe to that being possible is certainly not because i am a math genius (which i am not) and after long computations and formulas made that determination, but it was based on an understanding that even if by some miracle balls had memory and could remember how many times they were drawn and could somehow store that information, and if the balls knew or followed some kind of probability as to what the proper statistical average should be and acted in accordance with which ball was hot or cold and were picked more or less on average, and so on and so on, none of it would still matter. Lottery's use different bins and different balls as well as conduct several test drawings between drawings. If there was a way to predict probability on any level, that alone just put holes in that being possible because one is not basing their probability on consecutive draws back to back from the same bin or set of balls and even if it did, one would still not be able to determine how many test draws have been conducted between drawings or what balls/numbers had already been filtered through during the testing. Furthermore, each set of balls are designed with the exact weight, diameter,density and bounce. It's common practice for lotterys to send the balls off to laboratories for quantum inspection and testing to ensure every aspect of the ball remains in equal balance as part of their checks and balances to ensure randomness. If one ball is off, the whole set of balls are discarded. I remember reading about this some time ago about how lotterys in general behind the scenes go through common various processes.
                    So no, i do not subscribe to believing there is a system with a formula that can predict random drawings. Everybody has there own reasoning for why they feel the way they do about it, this is just mine. I still look at past numbers and look for patterns, but only because it's fun and human nature to examine things in such a way when picking numbers.
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                      It sometimes takes a lot of work and luck .

                      How about them cowboys!

                       

                       

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                        I've mentioned this before a few times already.

                        The NH Lottery website stopped displaying the monthly winners a few months ago. No red flags come to your mind? Especially when I posted his wins. It's in the blue link I posted.

                        Where do you think I copied and pasted those wins from?

                        onlymoney,

                        Maybe, your information from NH Lottery website is true.

                        But I'm still not sure why do you firmly believe Peter is using Steve player's "Private stock" system 

                        instead of other systems? 

                        Also, I find the truth you have not yet contacted with Peter until now from your posts in the link.

                        • Saying Lotto #s Can be Predicted means that Lotto's ODD can be reduced down  to an economical level by a system.
                        • Saying a Lotto System Works means that we can win constantly (not each draw)  and economically (get a real profit) by using the System.
                        • Practice is the only criterion for testing truth.
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                          I do believe there are two possible explanations for those who win frequently. One, playing a lot and increasing the frequency of winning, or two, they have intuition. Yes, i believe people can have the gift of intuition when it comes to numbers. I don't claim to understand intuition, but i have seen enough from my own experiences and others throughout my life to know that natural intuition does exist in many forms. I am not necessarily speaking on a level of voodoo or magic per say, just referring to one with good intuition or foresight with predicting numbers. So yes, i agree there are some things that escape the understanding of science and math, doesn't mean though that one day science and math will not eventually find a bases to understand it. Time will tell. I think some folks can pull this off with reasonable success with P3/P4 games given it may be easier for them to narrow down picks if they are intuitively good at picking winning numbers, but note we rarely see repeat winners with larger JP drawings given it is based on a larger spread of numbers with more numbers to correctly pick among. That understandably presents far more challenges then a P3/P4 game does. 

                          Now each lottery player has their own beliefs and practices, nothing wrong with that and i am not here to debate what others choices are or why, but for me, i do not believe there is a system (formula) based on math or science that can predict the next numbers to be drawn. The reason why i do not subscribe to that being possible is certainly not because i am a math genius (which i am not) and after long computations and formulas made that determination, but it was based on an understanding that even if by some miracle balls had memory and could remember how many times they were drawn and could somehow store that information, and if the balls knew or followed some kind of probability as to what the proper statistical average should be and acted in accordance with which ball was hot or cold and were picked more or less on average, and so on and so on, none of it would still matter. Lottery's use different bins and different balls as well as conduct several test drawings between drawings. If there was a way to predict probability on any level, that alone just put holes in that being possible because one is not basing their probability on consecutive draws back to back from the same bin or set of balls and even if it did, one would still not be able to determine how many test draws have been conducted between drawings or what balls/numbers had already been filtered through during the testing. Furthermore, each set of balls are designed with the exact weight, diameter,density and bounce. It's common practice for lotterys to send the balls off to laboratories for quantum inspection and testing to ensure every aspect of the ball remains in equal balance as part of their checks and balances to ensure randomness. If one ball is off, the whole set of balls are discarded. I remember reading about this some time ago about how lotterys in general behind the scenes go through common various processes.
                          So no, i do not subscribe to believing there is a system with a formula that can predict random drawings. Everybody has there own reasoning for why they feel the way they do about it, this is just mine. I still look at past numbers and look for patterns, but only because it's fun and human nature to examine things in such a way when picking numbers.

                           i do not believe there is a system (formula) based on math or science that can predict the next numbers to be drawn.

                          With respect to such an intelligent post, I will highly disagree with you on this main point. There is a science behind EVERY SYSTEM, otherwise you may as well just guess and/or use QP's to play. How the science is applied, when it's applied, where it's applied, and the right amount of funds to apply it...all part of the science/system/approach.

                            I still look at past numbers and look for patterns, but only because it's fun and human nature to examine things in such a way when picking numbers.

                          Please do not attempt to 'hoodwink' yourself with this statement, okay. It may be fun to look back at previous draw results, but this is still the basis and most fundamental aspect of attempting to successfully develop a winning approach. Otherwise, why even consider looking at any previous results? What you're actually doing here, my friend, is seeking an approach to 'ghost run' or live play numbers for a future draw whether you think so or not. The challenge of developing your own successful approach is what's actually driving you...which is very good.

                          So no, i do not subscribe to believing there is a system with a formula that can predict random drawings.

                          There is most definitely a consistency to the inconsistency of randomness if a player is willing to be patient and recognize what's actually happening instead of pouncing on every single type of draw.

                           Lottery's use different bins and different balls as well as conduct several test drawings between drawings. If there was a way to predict probability on any level, that alone just put holes in that being possible because one is not basing their probability on consecutive draws back to back from the same bin or set of balls and even if it did, one would still not be able to determine how many test draws have been conducted between drawings or what balls/numbers had already been filtered through during the testing. Furthermore, each set of balls are designed with the exact weight, diameter,density and bounce. It's common practice for lotterys to send the balls off to laboratories for quantum inspection and testing to ensure every aspect of the ball remains in equal balance as part of their checks and balances to ensure randomness. If one ball is off, the whole set of balls are discarded.

                          You're definitely on point here, and, the lotteries can do whatever they want with any ballset. However, you, the player still has full control of the patience and timing aspect of they type of draw you need to obatain the best chances of winning. We all know that nothing is guaranteed here, but the player can still give themself the absolute best opportunity to win with patience, timing, a representative number set, and the money to run those numbers. This, my friend, is the epitome of a systematic approach...every time. Best of success to you!!!

                           

                          L.L.

                          Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                          There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                          #lotto-4-a-living

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                            IMHO, tracking is probably the best method for choosing numbers to play.
                            There are many tracking schemes but only a few are needed to develope the intuition required in lottery play.
                            Knowing where the individual winning digits/numbers have been and where they might be headed is useful strategy.
                            I use a substitution workout that incorporates a variety of tracking/trend charts. |
                            It's a lot of work to keep the charts current, but, I'm winning often enough to make it worthwhile.

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                              IMHO, tracking is probably the best method for choosing numbers to play.
                              There are many tracking schemes but only a few are needed to develope the intuition required in lottery play.
                              Knowing where the individual winning digits/numbers have been and where they might be headed is useful strategy.
                              I use a substitution workout that incorporates a variety of tracking/trend charts. |
                              It's a lot of work to keep the charts current, but, I'm winning often enough to make it worthwhile.

                              I use a substitution workout that incorporates a variety of tracking/trend charts. |
                              It's a lot of work to keep the charts current, but, I'm winning often enough to make it worthwhile.

                              How often do you have to win to make it worthwhile?

                              I do something similar with jackpot games but I don't win often but I don't have a better way to pick combinations to play.

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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