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Any Pick3 system with past performace proof?

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onlymoney,

If you believe there is a Steve Player despite the response from the NH lottery, what's the point of discusing this with you?

Someone early on in this thread (was it you?) mentioned they intended to buy a $125 system on Monday, in a later post you mentioned something about a lot of effort to sell a $49.95 system, etc...yada yada yada.

There is no Steve Player and something tells me you've told plenty of people what a great time you had at the 1994 World Series.

Again, Svengali says hello.

As far as casino days, there's not much difference between lottery system sellers and sports betting service operators. Bet both sies of games, call the winning bets last weeks' "Five Star Selections" and advertise how good last weeks picks were, and go from there.

No real difference from what the Steve Player think tank does, sending people out to play hundreds or thousands of tickets and pimp the winners, just knowing there are people out there that are going to go for it, dying to buy into it, literally.

Those who operate those services make money because the degenerate sports bettors who lose have to have something to blame it on.

If you believe there is a Steve Player despite the response from the NH lottery, what's the point of discusing this with you?

 

If you want me to take you seriously, you first have to at least address the specific points I brought up. If you can't, then you either don't have a good explanation, or you lack basic comprehension.

It really wasn't a hard question that I asked.

The more you elude the issues I bring up, the more I think you can't answer them. Don't worry though, you're not alone. I have yet to get any answer from other people. Some who did take the time to expain didn't do a very good job.

Bottom line is that whether steve is in the business to sell systems is one thing, but Peter is the focus of this debate and how he tweaked Steve's numbers to make it work.


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    No, i never stated the lottery was in cahoots with either of these people in question.  Also,  I get the logic your working with, i really do. Given you already previously purchased one of steve's systems and referred to it as garbage, maybe repeating that action will produce a different result by purchasing another....see i get it.
    Good luck and i hope it works out for you

    If you look in many dumpsters long enough, you may find something valuable.

    Again, Steve's private stock system may not work on it's own, but based on the evidence which I've posted so many times now, It's apparent to me that Peter has figured out a way to tweak the numbers, especially with the p-4.

    If anyone really thinks Steve and Peter are spending tens of thousands a month on losing tickets just to sell a few systems, they really don't have a clue. The cost would eclipse any profit to be made on their part.


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      Why all the negative comments.  If onlymoney bought the system - let him enjoy and and let us know how it works.

      Thanks Emily.

      I understand the skeptism, but I wouldn't put so much faith in Steve's systems unless I saw a correlation between Peter and Steve. I already said that most of Steve's systems suck, but this guy Peter is using Steve's system and tweaking the numbers, I'm sure of it.

      Between Steve and peter, they'd have to spend well over 20 grand or more a month in losing tickets just to prove that it was their system that made that money. And i believe there's no way they are selling that many systems to pay for the cost and then make a profit on top of that. IMPOSSIBLE !

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        One more time, onlymoney, from the NH lottery:

        Yes, Steve Player is a corporation and not an actual person.  The corporation does try to sell a system for determining what the winning numbers will be.  What you see on that website and on our website are the times that he has won.  The lottery can see from the stores where the tickets are purchased that a great deal more is spent on buying the tickets then what is won.  If you do intend to make such a purchase, please be aware that lottery winning numbers are drawn at random and there is not sure way of determining what the winning numbers will be.  If that was the case, Steve Player would be winning a great deal more and more often.

        I'm not sure what part of that you have such a hard time understanding. If you want to continue believing that someone using a name that translates to Peter St. Peter isn't a runner for a think tank calling itself Steve Player there's no point in talking to you.

        Every con man in the world knows that the easiest person in the world to con is another con man.

        You seriously need to read the OP of a thread Buy Low posted last December:

        http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/269243

        Bye.

        Adios.

        Alpha Mike Foxtrot

        Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

        Lep

        There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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          One more time, onlymoney, from the NH lottery:

          Yes, Steve Player is a corporation and not an actual person.  The corporation does try to sell a system for determining what the winning numbers will be.  What you see on that website and on our website are the times that he has won.  The lottery can see from the stores where the tickets are purchased that a great deal more is spent on buying the tickets then what is won.  If you do intend to make such a purchase, please be aware that lottery winning numbers are drawn at random and there is not sure way of determining what the winning numbers will be.  If that was the case, Steve Player would be winning a great deal more and more often.

          I'm not sure what part of that you have such a hard time understanding. If you want to continue believing that someone using a name that translates to Peter St. Peter isn't a runner for a think tank calling itself Steve Player there's no point in talking to you.

          Every con man in the world knows that the easiest person in the world to con is another con man.

          You seriously need to read the OP of a thread Buy Low posted last December:

          http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/269243

          Bye.

          Adios.

          Alpha Mike Foxtrot

          I agree, 'Toss. This would be the equivalent of a company that sells a premium product of some brand, then markets either the same thing or a very similar product under yet another brand name. In the end, it's all the same with only minor variations if any at all. It's about the skill of marketing one's product in this case. Just my strong opinion...which is fact-based.

           

          L.L.

          Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

          There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

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            One more time, onlymoney, from the NH lottery:

            Yes, Steve Player is a corporation and not an actual person.  The corporation does try to sell a system for determining what the winning numbers will be.  What you see on that website and on our website are the times that he has won.  The lottery can see from the stores where the tickets are purchased that a great deal more is spent on buying the tickets then what is won.  If you do intend to make such a purchase, please be aware that lottery winning numbers are drawn at random and there is not sure way of determining what the winning numbers will be.  If that was the case, Steve Player would be winning a great deal more and more often.

            I'm not sure what part of that you have such a hard time understanding. If you want to continue believing that someone using a name that translates to Peter St. Peter isn't a runner for a think tank calling itself Steve Player there's no point in talking to you.

            Every con man in the world knows that the easiest person in the world to con is another con man.

            You seriously need to read the OP of a thread Buy Low posted last December:

            http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/269243

            Bye.

            Adios.

            Alpha Mike Foxtrot

            And you say I'm the gullible one?

            How the hell does the NH lottery know WHO is buying tickets at what store? Really?

            Are you saying that If i play at 12 different locations, the Florida lottery will know it was me?

            The casino days really screwed up your brain.

             

            Secondly, this excerpt you show is from some LP member that SUPPOSEDLY sent an email asking them about Steve Player. It could be written by the LP member. DUH !   This is not posted on the NH website, so it's just heresay.

            Thirdly, you still haven't addressed the amounts spent to acheive a few meager sales of the Private Stock system. That system is buried in between a dozen others. Again, for the upteenth time, they're spending tens of thousands a month in the hopes that someone will come out of the woodwork and see the connection between Peter and the Private Stock system and buy a couple of copies. So after five years of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars, FINALLY, one schmuck from LP, meaning me figured out the connection and MAYBE they'll sell a dozen copies. YEAH, GREAT MARKETING PLAN GENIUS !

            Sorry CT, you'll have to do better than that. But I know you can't because you regurgitate the same old nonsense. Get a grip.

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              There's paperwork for any win over $500, no?

              So every time 'Steve Player' won more than that 'he' had to fiil out such paperwork to get paid, and a W2-G or is it W4-G. THINK and stop assuming you know it all.

              So if you're the NH lottery and a number of individuals representing 'Steve Player', or an agent saying, "Oh, I'm not Steve Player, it's a corporation", have filled out the necessary paperwork to get paid - then DUH, genius. THINK.

              The Steve Player folk monitoring this board are going Green laughand the marketing department is going, "Told ya!"

              Not only that, thy're saying "That onlymoney person is a lock to buy another system."

              You also seem to think you know a lot about casino work, never having spent anytime inside the pit. Typical Tilley Tourist.

              Good Luck with all your future system purchases from 'Steve'. Maybe they'll assign you to play the NY lotto as Pablo St Paul.

              You're now at the point of becoming a time and energy vampire.

              We're done. Bye.

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                There's paperwork for any win over $500, no?

                So every time 'Steve Player' won more than that 'he' had to fiil out such paperwork to get paid, and a W2-G or is it W4-G. THINK and stop assuming you know it all.

                So if you're the NH lottery and a number of individuals representing 'Steve Player', or an agent saying, "Oh, I'm not Steve Player, it's a corporation", have filled out the necessary paperwork to get paid - then DUH, genius. THINK.

                The Steve Player folk monitoring this board are going Green laughand the marketing department is going, "Told ya!"

                Not only that, thy're saying "That onlymoney person is a lock to buy another system."

                You also seem to think you know a lot about casino work, never having spent anytime inside the pit. Typical Tilley Tourist.

                Good Luck with all your future system purchases from 'Steve'. Maybe they'll assign you to play the NY lotto as Pablo St Paul.

                You're now at the point of becoming a time and energy vampire.

                We're done. Bye.

                Sorry, you still haven't proven that the statement you posted really came from the NH lottery, and you won't be able because it's just a "SUPPOSED" email by an LP member.

                Like I said before, get a grip.


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                  Ok Peter, let's get to work buddy. I have a genius plan. between you and me, we'll spend about 280 grand a year on losing tickets to make ourselves look good. Now here's the best part. We;ll do this until the end of time, all the while crossing our fingers that some genius is gonna see the trick and fall for it. And after five years, and 1.4 million losing tickets, If this schmuck convinces another 12 or 20 other schmucks to buy our system, then we'll recover about 0000.18 percent of the losses.

                  Sounds like a great plan Steve !

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                    I do believe there are two possible explanations for those who win frequently. One, playing a lot and increasing the frequency of winning, or two, they have intuition. Yes, i believe people can have the gift of intuition when it comes to numbers. I don't claim to understand intuition, but i have seen enough from my own experiences and others throughout my life to know that natural intuition does exist in many forms. I am not necessarily speaking on a level of voodoo or magic per say, just referring to one with good intuition or foresight with predicting numbers. So yes, i agree there are some things that escape the understanding of science and math, doesn't mean though that one day science and math will not eventually find a bases to understand it. Time will tell. I think some folks can pull this off with reasonable success with P3/P4 games given it may be easier for them to narrow down picks if they are intuitively good at picking winning numbers, but note we rarely see repeat winners with larger JP drawings given it is based on a larger spread of numbers with more numbers to correctly pick among. That understandably presents far more challenges then a P3/P4 game does. 

                    Now each lottery player has their own beliefs and practices, nothing wrong with that and i am not here to debate what others choices are or why, but for me, i do not believe there is a system (formula) based on math or science that can predict the next numbers to be drawn. The reason why i do not subscribe to that being possible is certainly not because i am a math genius (which i am not) and after long computations and formulas made that determination, but it was based on an understanding that even if by some miracle balls had memory and could remember how many times they were drawn and could somehow store that information, and if the balls knew or followed some kind of probability as to what the proper statistical average should be and acted in accordance with which ball was hot or cold and were picked more or less on average, and so on and so on, none of it would still matter. Lottery's use different bins and different balls as well as conduct several test drawings between drawings. If there was a way to predict probability on any level, that alone just put holes in that being possible because one is not basing their probability on consecutive draws back to back from the same bin or set of balls and even if it did, one would still not be able to determine how many test draws have been conducted between drawings or what balls/numbers had already been filtered through during the testing. Furthermore, each set of balls are designed with the exact weight, diameter,density and bounce. It's common practice for lotterys to send the balls off to laboratories for quantum inspection and testing to ensure every aspect of the ball remains in equal balance as part of their checks and balances to ensure randomness. If one ball is off, the whole set of balls are discarded. I remember reading about this some time ago about how lotterys in general behind the scenes go through common various processes.
                    So no, i do not subscribe to believing there is a system with a formula that can predict random drawings. Everybody has there own reasoning for why they feel the way they do about it, this is just mine. I still look at past numbers and look for patterns, but only because it's fun and human nature to examine things in such a way when picking numbers.

                     Hello Candlelight777,

                    Consider the possibility that the draws are not random. Consider that from a scientific point of view, the only action that could possibly be called truly random in the universe is whatever the "first cause" or "spark"  was that set this Wheel, or Uni-wheel(universe into motion). I'm not saying that we're in a pre-determined universe, I'm just saying that once anything comes into being, be it a rock or a person, it is quite stuck in the loop of time, and thus subject to cause and effect. Once those things are subject to cause and effect, you're often able to reliably see patterns and make startlingly accurate predictions, because to paraphrase evolutionary biologist Rupert Sheldrake, 'nature has a habit of being habitual'.

                    At the quantum level, one does see probabilities, but at the level of the very large that you and I can see with the naked eye, these probabilities have already collapsed, and the one that's left, the one we see, is the one the was usually borne out of cause and effect. Once a thing is first done, realize that what had been a mere probability has now become concrete in space and time. If its done twice, it may have an edge on the things that have never been done. If its done over and over again, there may be a tendency toward entrainment, toward crystallizing the"habit" and thus producing pattern.

                    In my opinion, when it comes to predicting the lottery, the weight of the lottery balls, the bins, test draws,diameter, density and bounce essentially don't matter, because they have already been taken into account when the lottery balls are drawn at the same time everyday like CLOCKWORK. There is a correspondence between the draw time of 12 PM on Wednesday to the draw-time of 12 PM on Thursday and so on. Furthermore, that correspondence stretches from the present draw to all the past draws that have ever occurred for that game, and to all the draws that that will occur in the future. This is a deeper conversation, but roughly speaking....

                    Remember that you learned in school that between any 2 points, there exists a straight line, and between any 3 points you have a triangle, and so on? Well, it wasn't a light-weight thing that we learned, but rather has real-world application. Everything that exists in the world is an actual  "thing" in time and space or an actual "point" in time and space. Notice that time means a sequence of events from the past to the future, and space means having physicality(LxWxH). So even a lottery ball, which is a point in space and time, has a real identity. As a matter of fact, a lottery draw is also a point in space and time, and so between any 2 or more points, 2 or more balls or 2 or more lottery draws, you can draw a connection between them. You have in essence created a relationship, and it is through having things relate to each other that we can know them better.

                    Now on top off all  this, you have the "naming" of the balls. Everything in the universe is energy. All energy is information. When you name a ball by  writing a "2" on a ball, you then make that ball uniquely different than a ball with a "4" on it. It has different information. We generally assume the information is abstract. Its not. The consciousness of humanity called numbers into being a long time ago, and so today when we you use those numbers, what comes along with it, is the energetic integrity of much of what that number has come to mean to us, and the literal and archetypal ways its been used throughout the course of history.  We all know that the form(shape) and function of "2" is different than a "4". This energy or information is not just "true" when we're at the grocery store counting money, or in the lab counting electrons.  Logically speaking, its true for the lottery too.So the draw of 208 has a different personality than 745, but through their relating, we can better see more of their traits and functions. And so it follows that the lottery draws give rise to other lottery draws.  One can whimsically  say that lottery draws numbers are just signposts that mark the time and place(space) of the Great Uni-Wheel that was set in motion long ago, and if one assumes this wheel is balanced and keeps all that's in it  in proportion, one can reliably use these lottery number markers to arrive at a distant point along this Uni-Wheel sometime in the future.

                    One can use anything to predict. Math, science, geology, history, numerology, intuition, astrology, a shoe, runes, soil or whatever. It all connects. Its just that for some people, some of these tools are more tedious to use, and because we don't have surround-sound omniscience, we have a hard time seeing many of the ways that they can be used. Its more straightforward for many to use arithmetic as a tool, and  one doesn't have to assume it has to be complex or that one needs a super-computer. Everyone knows 3rd grade arithmetic and it may be enough to produce radically consistent and profitable wins with relatively few numbers.

                    May your numbers be true this day,
                    Kola

                    Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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                       Hello Candlelight777,

                      Consider the possibility that the draws are not random. Consider that from a scientific point of view, the only action that could possibly be called truly random in the universe is whatever the "first cause" or "spark"  was that set this Wheel, or Uni-wheel(universe into motion). I'm not saying that we're in a pre-determined universe, I'm just saying that once anything comes into being, be it a rock or a person, it is quite stuck in the loop of time, and thus subject to cause and effect. Once those things are subject to cause and effect, you're often able to reliably see patterns and make startlingly accurate predictions, because to paraphrase evolutionary biologist Rupert Sheldrake, 'nature has a habit of being habitual'.

                      At the quantum level, one does see probabilities, but at the level of the very large that you and I can see with the naked eye, these probabilities have already collapsed, and the one that's left, the one we see, is the one the was usually borne out of cause and effect. Once a thing is first done, realize that what had been a mere probability has now become concrete in space and time. If its done twice, it may have an edge on the things that have never been done. If its done over and over again, there may be a tendency toward entrainment, toward crystallizing the"habit" and thus producing pattern.

                      In my opinion, when it comes to predicting the lottery, the weight of the lottery balls, the bins, test draws,diameter, density and bounce essentially don't matter, because they have already been taken into account when the lottery balls are drawn at the same time everyday like CLOCKWORK. There is a correspondence between the draw time of 12 PM on Wednesday to the draw-time of 12 PM on Thursday and so on. Furthermore, that correspondence stretches from the present draw to all the past draws that have ever occurred for that game, and to all the draws that that will occur in the future. This is a deeper conversation, but roughly speaking....

                      Remember that you learned in school that between any 2 points, there exists a straight line, and between any 3 points you have a triangle, and so on? Well, it wasn't a light-weight thing that we learned, but rather has real-world application. Everything that exists in the world is an actual  "thing" in time and space or an actual "point" in time and space. Notice that time means a sequence of events from the past to the future, and space means having physicality(LxWxH). So even a lottery ball, which is a point in space and time, has a real identity. As a matter of fact, a lottery draw is also a point in space and time, and so between any 2 or more points, 2 or more balls or 2 or more lottery draws, you can draw a connection between them. You have in essence created a relationship, and it is through having things relate to each other that we can know them better.

                      Now on top off all  this, you have the "naming" of the balls. Everything in the universe is energy. All energy is information. When you name a ball by  writing a "2" on a ball, you then make that ball uniquely different than a ball with a "4" on it. It has different information. We generally assume the information is abstract. Its not. The consciousness of humanity called numbers into being a long time ago, and so today when we you use those numbers, what comes along with it, is the energetic integrity of much of what that number has come to mean to us, and the literal and archetypal ways its been used throughout the course of history.  We all know that the form(shape) and function of "2" is different than a "4". This energy or information is not just "true" when we're at the grocery store counting money, or in the lab counting electrons.  Logically speaking, its true for the lottery too.So the draw of 208 has a different personality than 745, but through their relating, we can better see more of their traits and functions. And so it follows that the lottery draws give rise to other lottery draws.  One can whimsically  say that lottery draws numbers are just signposts that mark the time and place(space) of the Great Uni-Wheel that was set in motion long ago, and if one assumes this wheel is balanced and keeps all that's in it  in proportion, one can reliably use these lottery number markers to arrive at a distant point along this Uni-Wheel sometime in the future.

                      One can use anything to predict. Math, science, geology, history, numerology, intuition, astrology, a shoe, runes, soil or whatever. It all connects. Its just that for some people, some of these tools are more tedious to use, and because we don't have surround-sound omniscience, we have a hard time seeing many of the ways that they can be used. Its more straightforward for many to use arithmetic as a tool, and  one doesn't have to assume it has to be complex or that one needs a super-computer. Everyone knows 3rd grade arithmetic and it may be enough to produce radically consistent and profitable wins with relatively few numbers.

                      May your numbers be true this day,
                      Kola

                      'Consider the possibility that the draws are not random'

                       I think the inverse of above should be assumed to see the big picture, the abstract explanation is all good,  but does not negate the fact that all the balls are memory-less, your  only connection or how you relate to the ' dynamics'of the event is  digital identification.

                      Lets assume all the balls have the same color wthout numbers before the event, how do you identify the precceding/successive draws?  I thought all the balls has the same unit measurement  and replaced after each draw(to prevent change measurement) and that  each ball is drawn separately from a pool of 10 numbers(0-9 for p3,p4), your digit 3 of current  draw may come from a different pool. Do you think the digit3 of preceeding draw is  the same as the digit 3 of successive draw? I may be wrong here, during the draw time, how many balls and hoppers are been used for P3,P4? I know lotto  games like 5/34 used one hopper and balls comes in sequence.

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                        'Consider the possibility that the draws are not random'

                         I think the inverse of above should be assumed to see the big picture, the abstract explanation is all good,  but does not negate the fact that all the balls are memory-less, your  only connection or how you relate to the ' dynamics'of the event is  digital identification.

                        Lets assume all the balls have the same color wthout numbers before the event, how do you identify the precceding/successive draws?  I thought all the balls has the same unit measurement  and replaced after each draw(to prevent change measurement) and that  each ball is drawn separately from a pool of 10 numbers(0-9 for p3,p4), your digit 3 of current  draw may come from a different pool. Do you think the digit3 of preceeding draw is  the same as the digit 3 of successive draw? I may be wrong here, during the draw time, how many balls and hoppers are been used for P3,P4? I know lotto  games like 5/34 used one hopper and balls comes in sequence.

                        Hello adobea78,

                        If there are no numbers on the balls, the game is null and void, The numbers on the ball help give the ball its essential identity. The ball is energy, or a field of energy. Coherent energy is information.  So putting a numbers on a ball impacts the information in the field of that ball, and impacts the information in the field for all numbers.  It may be irrelevant that the digit of a preceding draw is not the same as the digit of the successive draw. What matters is that they are in the "3" family. I'm saying that its okay that they use different ball pools, and different hoppers. When all probabilities collapse at the "cyclical-draw-time-manifestation-window", the one that remains and manifests will have a direct correspondence to the draw before and after it. Its also has a direct correspondence to the draw that fell 2 weeks ago, 3 months ago,  4 years ago, and etc...To me, the relationship of these draws to one other is the big picture, and when you pull far enough away, you can better see the inter-connecting tapestry.

                        You say that the balls are memory-less, which implies that you believe they are not "aware". Are you aware of the repeated scientific experiments that prove that electrons have "awareness"? If electrons have awareness, balls by extension also have awareness.  Awareness is sewn into every atom in the universe. Non-awareness doesn't give rise to awareness. If the universe 'birthed' you, and you are an aware being, then I submit that the universe and all thats in it is also aware. Different levels of awareness, yes, but awareness nonetheless. Check out the wonderful book called the "Secret Life of Plants" by Christopher Bird and Peter Tompkins. In it you'll read about brilliant experiments done by the late Sir. Dr. Jagadish Chandra Bose(born in 1858 - died in 1937). He is the inventor of the famous Bose technology, and among many other "firsts", was able to transmit wireless signals through the air before Marconi and Tesla. He also invented much of the ingenious equipment he used to peer into the 'lives' of animals, plants and metals. He was a genius of a man not prone to hyperbole. What he found through painstaking experimentation, and exacting research astounded him. He found that the boundary between living and non-living is in the least very blurry and at the most barely exists, because he discovered that metals also have a sensory apparatus, and that the response of plants, animals, and metals to stimuli were along the same curve. He felt that the line between the living and non-living was in fact artificial. This was all rigorously documented in extreme detail so that others could continue his research.

                        What would prove to you that the Pick 3 draws for instance, wasn't wholly random? Honest question...If one could play the Pick 3 100% of the time, and hit 95% of the draws using 20 numbers or less each time, would you call that random?

                        I appreciate your handiwork on the LP, and see the extreme viability in your approach to the lottery. By the way, what you say about the lottery being random is true too even though you may say it has 95% randomness, while I may say it has 5% and can be accounted for by playing 20 numbers. You, me, and all of us with our logic, creativity, and intuition are defining the world we see according to the sum total of who we are and the paradox is that we may be able to predict the lottery with high accuracy using totally different viewpoints. As we know things usually have 2 poles, and so extremes do meet...

                        May your numbers be true this day,
                        Kola

                        Legend says that The Craggy One was once asked about the Lottery Circle and the aged Lottery LoreKeeper whispered in his gravelly eloquence,"It is known among our kind that 2 successive draws are in reality the 2 center-points of 2 intersecting circles that share a common radius - a Root Center. This Vesica Piscis is the creative womb for all numbers, the Still Point from which two draws will unite & a new one is born. This "perfect" space is a wormhole through Time(Change). Master its proportions & your numerical predictions will not falter". 

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                           Hello Candlelight777,

                          Consider the possibility that the draws are not random. Consider that from a scientific point of view, the only action that could possibly be called truly random in the universe is whatever the "first cause" or "spark"  was that set this Wheel, or Uni-wheel(universe into motion). I'm not saying that we're in a pre-determined universe, I'm just saying that once anything comes into being, be it a rock or a person, it is quite stuck in the loop of time, and thus subject to cause and effect. Once those things are subject to cause and effect, you're often able to reliably see patterns and make startlingly accurate predictions, because to paraphrase evolutionary biologist Rupert Sheldrake, 'nature has a habit of being habitual'.

                          At the quantum level, one does see probabilities, but at the level of the very large that you and I can see with the naked eye, these probabilities have already collapsed, and the one that's left, the one we see, is the one the was usually borne out of cause and effect. Once a thing is first done, realize that what had been a mere probability has now become concrete in space and time. If its done twice, it may have an edge on the things that have never been done. If its done over and over again, there may be a tendency toward entrainment, toward crystallizing the"habit" and thus producing pattern.

                          In my opinion, when it comes to predicting the lottery, the weight of the lottery balls, the bins, test draws,diameter, density and bounce essentially don't matter, because they have already been taken into account when the lottery balls are drawn at the same time everyday like CLOCKWORK. There is a correspondence between the draw time of 12 PM on Wednesday to the draw-time of 12 PM on Thursday and so on. Furthermore, that correspondence stretches from the present draw to all the past draws that have ever occurred for that game, and to all the draws that that will occur in the future. This is a deeper conversation, but roughly speaking....

                          Remember that you learned in school that between any 2 points, there exists a straight line, and between any 3 points you have a triangle, and so on? Well, it wasn't a light-weight thing that we learned, but rather has real-world application. Everything that exists in the world is an actual  "thing" in time and space or an actual "point" in time and space. Notice that time means a sequence of events from the past to the future, and space means having physicality(LxWxH). So even a lottery ball, which is a point in space and time, has a real identity. As a matter of fact, a lottery draw is also a point in space and time, and so between any 2 or more points, 2 or more balls or 2 or more lottery draws, you can draw a connection between them. You have in essence created a relationship, and it is through having things relate to each other that we can know them better.

                          Now on top off all  this, you have the "naming" of the balls. Everything in the universe is energy. All energy is information. When you name a ball by  writing a "2" on a ball, you then make that ball uniquely different than a ball with a "4" on it. It has different information. We generally assume the information is abstract. Its not. The consciousness of humanity called numbers into being a long time ago, and so today when we you use those numbers, what comes along with it, is the energetic integrity of much of what that number has come to mean to us, and the literal and archetypal ways its been used throughout the course of history.  We all know that the form(shape) and function of "2" is different than a "4". This energy or information is not just "true" when we're at the grocery store counting money, or in the lab counting electrons.  Logically speaking, its true for the lottery too.So the draw of 208 has a different personality than 745, but through their relating, we can better see more of their traits and functions. And so it follows that the lottery draws give rise to other lottery draws.  One can whimsically  say that lottery draws numbers are just signposts that mark the time and place(space) of the Great Uni-Wheel that was set in motion long ago, and if one assumes this wheel is balanced and keeps all that's in it  in proportion, one can reliably use these lottery number markers to arrive at a distant point along this Uni-Wheel sometime in the future.

                          One can use anything to predict. Math, science, geology, history, numerology, intuition, astrology, a shoe, runes, soil or whatever. It all connects. Its just that for some people, some of these tools are more tedious to use, and because we don't have surround-sound omniscience, we have a hard time seeing many of the ways that they can be used. Its more straightforward for many to use arithmetic as a tool, and  one doesn't have to assume it has to be complex or that one needs a super-computer. Everyone knows 3rd grade arithmetic and it may be enough to produce radically consistent and profitable wins with relatively few numbers.

                          May your numbers be true this day,
                          Kola

                           Logically speaking, its true for the lottery too.So the draw of 208 has a different personality than 745, but through their relating, we can better see more of their traits and functions.  Logically speaking, its true for the lottery too.So the draw of 208 has a different personality than 745, but through their relating, we can better see more of their traits and functions. 

                          Okay, let's just simplify this to the max. I mean, I can definitely have an appreciation for all the thought, logic, and intelligence that went into the post as a whole. No sarcasm here...I'm being honest, okay. However, if we look at your 208 example as say the mid-day draw and your 745 as the evening draw, what has happened is pretty darn clear to Lucky...and is what I've preached in the last few days. The straight even draw, which has a pair of evens on each side, simply 'switched' to a mixed combo on both sides.

                          74X and X45, respectively, are the results. Had a player simply been playing the group ODD-EVEN-ODD, (745) would've been there providing that their additional filtering worked out also. Rocket science has no place here, at all, and anyone trying to make this out to be more than what is outlined here is clearly living and playing in total darkness. Recognize the groups from one draw to the next and your lives will be so much easier.

                           

                          L.L.

                          Small games, frequent wins, and regular payouts 'cause.....

                          There are seven days in the week...'Someday' isn't one of them.

                          #lotto-4-a-living

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                            'Consider the possibility that the draws are not random'

                             I think the inverse of above should be assumed to see the big picture, the abstract explanation is all good,  but does not negate the fact that all the balls are memory-less, your  only connection or how you relate to the ' dynamics'of the event is  digital identification.

                            Lets assume all the balls have the same color wthout numbers before the event, how do you identify the precceding/successive draws?  I thought all the balls has the same unit measurement  and replaced after each draw(to prevent change measurement) and that  each ball is drawn separately from a pool of 10 numbers(0-9 for p3,p4), your digit 3 of current  draw may come from a different pool. Do you think the digit3 of preceeding draw is  the same as the digit 3 of successive draw? I may be wrong here, during the draw time, how many balls and hoppers are been used for P3,P4? I know lotto  games like 5/34 used one hopper and balls comes in sequence.

                            First let me say thank you so much for taking the time to share what you have. You certainly have flipped a switch and left me thinking about some things that i had not considered or thought of that i found not only interesting, but fascinating. I really enjoyed reading your responses as i always love to look at things from all angles and expand into uncharted territories that i had not considered before.
                            But i do have a few things i am curious about that you stated.
                             "In my opinion, when it comes to predicting the lottery, the weight of the lottery balls, the bins, test draws,diameter, density and bounce essentially don't matter, because they have already been taken into account when the lottery balls are drawn at the same time everyday like CLOCKWORK. There is a correspondence between the draw time of 12 PM on Wednesday to the draw-time of 12 PM on Thursday and so on. Furthermore, that correspondence stretches from the present draw to all the past draws that have ever occurred for that game, and to all the draws that that will occur in the future."
                            "I'm saying that its okay that they use different ball pools, and different hoppers. When all probabilities collapse at the "cyclical-draw-time-manifestation-window", the one that remains and manifests will have a direct correspondence to the draw before and after it. Its also has a direct correspondence to the draw that fell 2 weeks ago, 3 months ago,  4 years ago, and etc.."
                            "Everything that exists in the world is an actual  "thing" in time and space or an actual "point" in time and space. Notice that time means a sequence of events from the past to the future, and space means having physicality(LxWxH). So even a lottery ball, which is a point in space and time, has a real identity. As a matter of fact, a lottery draw is also a point in space and time, and so between any 2 or more points, 2 or more balls or 2 or more lottery draws, you can draw a connection between them."

                            But doesn't one need to take into consideration how cause and effect has effected or altered a sequence of events in order to establish it's future behavior or pattern? If one observed consecutive draws back to back over a period of time with the same balls, same bin and no other drawings conducted that were hidden from observation, then over a period of time i could see developing a pattern of behavior because everything remained the same in producing the results being observed, but if i am understanding you correctly, you are saying that none of that matters because whatever balls are drawn at noon every Tuesday for example, is what corresponds to all previous and future draws at noon on Tuesday. 

                            The problem with that though is that drawings are not clockwork per say and therefore not done precisely at the same time. So if the uni-wheel is balanced and keeps all that's in it in proportion, then really drawings are not matching a precise "point in time" anyway from drawing to drawing for it to be an effective measure of predictability. Last weeks drawing at 11:58 would have no relevance to this weeks noon drawing at 12:01 because they did not happen at the same precise point in time, which if i am understanding correctly, is your bases for why different balls, bins and any test draws between official draws has no relevance because it's the point in time repeating itself at the same point in time for each drawing that is relevant according to you. I just have to disagree on that particular theory.
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                              Hello adobea78,

                              If there are no numbers on the balls, the game is null and void, The numbers on the ball help give the ball its essential identity. The ball is energy, or a field of energy. Coherent energy is information.  So putting a numbers on a ball impacts the information in the field of that ball, and impacts the information in the field for all numbers.  It may be irrelevant that the digit of a preceding draw is not the same as the digit of the successive draw. What matters is that they are in the "3" family. I'm saying that its okay that they use different ball pools, and different hoppers. When all probabilities collapse at the "cyclical-draw-time-manifestation-window", the one that remains and manifests will have a direct correspondence to the draw before and after it. Its also has a direct correspondence to the draw that fell 2 weeks ago, 3 months ago,  4 years ago, and etc...To me, the relationship of these draws to one other is the big picture, and when you pull far enough away, you can better see the inter-connecting tapestry.

                              You say that the balls are memory-less, which implies that you believe they are not "aware". Are you aware of the repeated scientific experiments that prove that electrons have "awareness"? If electrons have awareness, balls by extension also have awareness.  Awareness is sewn into every atom in the universe. Non-awareness doesn't give rise to awareness. If the universe 'birthed' you, and you are an aware being, then I submit that the universe and all thats in it is also aware. Different levels of awareness, yes, but awareness nonetheless. Check out the wonderful book called the "Secret Life of Plants" by Christopher Bird and Peter Tompkins. In it you'll read about brilliant experiments done by the late Sir. Dr. Jagadish Chandra Bose(born in 1858 - died in 1937). He is the inventor of the famous Bose technology, and among many other "firsts", was able to transmit wireless signals through the air before Marconi and Tesla. He also invented much of the ingenious equipment he used to peer into the 'lives' of animals, plants and metals. He was a genius of a man not prone to hyperbole. What he found through painstaking experimentation, and exacting research astounded him. He found that the boundary between living and non-living is in the least very blurry and at the most barely exists, because he discovered that metals also have a sensory apparatus, and that the response of plants, animals, and metals to stimuli were along the same curve. He felt that the line between the living and non-living was in fact artificial. This was all rigorously documented in extreme detail so that others could continue his research.

                              What would prove to you that the Pick 3 draws for instance, wasn't wholly random? Honest question...If one could play the Pick 3 100% of the time, and hit 95% of the draws using 20 numbers or less each time, would you call that random?

                              I appreciate your handiwork on the LP, and see the extreme viability in your approach to the lottery. By the way, what you say about the lottery being random is true too even though you may say it has 95% randomness, while I may say it has 5% and can be accounted for by playing 20 numbers. You, me, and all of us with our logic, creativity, and intuition are defining the world we see according to the sum total of who we are and the paradox is that we may be able to predict the lottery with high accuracy using totally different viewpoints. As we know things usually have 2 poles, and so extremes do meet...

                              May your numbers be true this day,
                              Kola

                              If there are no numbers on the balls, the game is null and void, The numbers on the ball help give the ball its essential identity. The ball is energy, or a field of energy. Coherent energy is information.  So putting a numbers on a ball impacts the information in the field of that ball, and impacts the information in the field for all numbers.

                              There seem to be a disconect here, the human mind is seeking information, but has no  relation to the balls perse, i do not think the balls are aware of their identity (it could color, digits....etc), so  to nullify a game because there's no identifications on the balls is  your viewpoint. The human brain seek patterns, it makes  things easier.