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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: April 5, 2014, 1:57 am - IP Logged

The question was "How come these so called 'better numbers' haven't won jackpots. I've never heard a winner say they played 'better numbers', have you?" but they never explained what they meant by "so called better numbers" because it should be obvious the most frequently drawn numbers were the "better numbers" compared to numbers not drawn. I can only assume when a lottery player picks and plays "their numbers" it's because they believe they are the best numbers.

"Also by picking my own combinations I avoid repeats of combinations of threes and larger thus getting better coverage with the few lines I play."

Brad Duke wheeled the most frequently drawn numbers and used similar filters and probably played over 500 lines. If there is a system that consistently wins 5/39 games, lotto, MM, or PB jackpots, it probably sorts out the best lines based on a criteria. Another possibility is using all the numbers in an abbreviated wheel and placing them into the best order.

There is a difference between playing what the player believes is the best five numbers and playing what you believe is the best lines. And a difference between both of them and the best order.

"Brad Duke wheeled the most frequently drawn numbers and used similar filters and probably played over 500 lines."

The most frequently drawn numbers for which period?  The most frequently drawn numbers can be from the most recent drawings or from all previous drawings.  I've run such simulations of previous drawings and never saw where doing that offered any advantages.  Maybe he got lucky once doing that 'cause I've only heard of him winning big once.

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    Posted: April 5, 2014, 3:45 am - IP Logged

    "Brad Duke wheeled the most frequently drawn numbers and used similar filters and probably played over 500 lines."

    The most frequently drawn numbers for which period?  The most frequently drawn numbers can be from the most recent drawings or from all previous drawings.  I've run such simulations of previous drawings and never saw where doing that offered any advantages.  Maybe he got lucky once doing that 'cause I've only heard of him winning big once.

    Duke gave a vague response about playing 15 frequent numbers which could mean a number of different things. My point was he said he played them because he believed they were "better numbers".

    Whether it's 70% or 99% playing QPs, the winner still is very lucky.


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      Posted: April 5, 2014, 11:16 pm - IP Logged

      No one's ever going to take away Coin Toss's good job's in the casino's.  If you don't believe me just ask the <snip>tail waitresses they will tell you its trueBig Grin

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      I believe Coin is retired.

      BTW, you put an apostrophe after, job, and casino. Why?

      Thanks in advance.


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        Posted: April 5, 2014, 11:26 pm - IP Logged

        A huge fallacy: Stats are keys to winning.

        No. They are not. It's a random drawing. The only thing stats predict with any accuracy is past results. Any number can be drawn at any time. It doesn't matter if a number was drawn in 10 of the past 10 drawings or hasn't been drawn for 10 drawings. Either outcome is statistically valid in a random set and past drawings have no influence on future drawings except over the very, very long term and only in the sense that over the course of 175 million (PB) or 258 million (MM) drawings, most combinations will hit at least once.

        True for major JP games, not true for much smaller matrices, like the P-3.


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          True for major JP games, not true for much smaller matrices, like the P-3.

          "True for major JP games, not true for much smaller matrices, like the P-3."

          Why?

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            Posted: April 6, 2014, 5:28 am - IP Logged

            A huge fallacy: Stats are keys to winning.

            No. They are not. It's a random drawing. The only thing stats predict with any accuracy is past results. Any number can be drawn at any time. It doesn't matter if a number was drawn in 10 of the past 10 drawings or hasn't been drawn for 10 drawings. Either outcome is statistically valid in a random set and past drawings have no influence on future drawings except over the very, very long term and only in the sense that over the course of 175 million (PB) or 258 million (MM) drawings, most combinations will hit at least once.

            Predicting is no more then someone's attempt to forecast the results of a future drawing based on their observations of past drawings.  The fact that drawings are random and they are usually wrong doesn't mean they can't or shouldn't try.  A look at the predictions results will show some are better at it than others.

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              Posted: April 6, 2014, 10:23 pm - IP Logged

              "True for major JP games, not true for much smaller matrices, like the P-3."

              Why?

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              I should've explained my post in more detail.

              It's true that a p-3 game is also random, plus all the other attributes mentioned, but my intention was to show that the p-3 is many times easier to predict due to the 1 in 1,000 possible combos for a straight, as opposed to millions to 1 in a JP game.

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                Posted: April 7, 2014, 10:30 am - IP Logged

                Thanks Coin Toss about choosing quick picks.  Your Truly, also needs to stop choosing the annuity option. Coffee

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                  Posted: April 7, 2014, 6:17 pm - IP Logged

                  I believe Coin is retired.

                  BTW, you put an apostrophe after, job, and casino. Why?

                  Thanks in advance.

                  I know Coin Toss is retired. 

                  BTW, you may have some intelligence but like alot of men no road savvy to understand what i meant by my post.  Why?Big Grin

                  Thanks in advance.

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                    I know Coin Toss is retired. 

                    BTW, you may have some intelligence but like alot of men no road savvy to understand what i meant by my post.  Why?Big Grin

                    Thanks in advance.

                    Oh believe me, my specialty is in "street smarts" and hard knocks. The battle scars healed quickly because I was young. And I never claimed I was intelligent. My intention was to find out, why you wrote what you did in that fashion.

                    I tried to imagine the possibilities that could connect use of an apostrophe, meaning possessive to something relevant. But I guess I just isn't smart enough. Must be an inside joke that YOU believe everyone should be privy to. I never got the memo. Green laugh

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                      Posted: April 7, 2014, 10:16 pm - IP Logged

                      Oh believe me, my specialty is in "street smarts" and hard knocks. The battle scars healed quickly because I was young. And I never claimed I was intelligent. My intention was to find out, why you wrote what you did in that fashion.

                      I tried to imagine the possibilities that could connect use of an apostrophe, meaning possessive to something relevant. But I guess I just isn't smart enough. Must be an inside joke that YOU believe everyone should be privy to. I never got the memo. Green laugh

                      Really?  You didn't sound like you understood it!  We all have scars but the sign of healing is that your not still holding a grudge after all this time.  You caught her in the back seat with a chump let it go son!

                      Now "My Intention" is to question you and others argueing the validity to be able to mathematically computate numbers to predict the outcome of these jackpots!  Are yall crazy or what!?!  These lotteries are like most casino games.  They are a bet followed by an action.  You can't predict that.  Games like slots, roulette, dice games, ect. fit that bill.  Black Jack would be a rare exception because you have some control to take action before a bet like keep up with the card count, double down before a hit, or stand and let the dealer take the card.  Just buy one quick pick each drawing and don't worry about it.  You want to get rich?  Start a business or marry rich.  Problem solved!  The lottery is a hobby.  If you believe in prediciting lottery numbers then you might as well believe pro wrestling is real or that you could turn Kim Kardashian into a faithful housewife lol!  Good luck bubba!

                      Lastly, the most comical reply to any member is to point out gramatical errors.  I mean come on!  It makes me wonder if you have ever even kissed a girl on the lips yet!  I don't give a f***** f*** anymore about my college courses on fundamentals of english grammar.  Now someone in my fan club post me a brewsky for my brilliance!

                      Yall know what im saying! LOL

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                        Really?  You didn't sound like you understood it!  We all have scars but the sign of healing is that your not still holding a grudge after all this time.  You caught her in the back seat with a chump let it go son!

                        Now "My Intention" is to question you and others argueing the validity to be able to mathematically computate numbers to predict the outcome of these jackpots!  Are yall crazy or what!?!  These lotteries are like most casino games.  They are a bet followed by an action.  You can't predict that.  Games like slots, roulette, dice games, ect. fit that bill.  Black Jack would be a rare exception because you have some control to take action before a bet like keep up with the card count, double down before a hit, or stand and let the dealer take the card.  Just buy one quick pick each drawing and don't worry about it.  You want to get rich?  Start a business or marry rich.  Problem solved!  The lottery is a hobby.  If you believe in prediciting lottery numbers then you might as well believe pro wrestling is real or that you could turn Kim Kardashian into a faithful housewife lol!  Good luck bubba!

                        Lastly, the most comical reply to any member is to point out gramatical errors.  I mean come on!  It makes me wonder if you have ever even kissed a girl on the lips yet!  I don't give a f***** f*** anymore about my college courses on fundamentals of english grammar.  Now someone in my fan club post me a brewsky for my brilliance!

                        Yall know what im saying! LOL

                        Really,  You didn't sound like you understood it

                        I never claimed I did. In the material you quoted, I specifically wrote that I obviously didn't know what you meant, even though I was street smart. Being street smart is no guarantee that every possible interpretation of symbolic writing will be recognized by everyone. Never assume anything.

                         

                        As far as being crazy to attempt a prediction, well, you obviously don't read what I've recently been writing in other threads about this. The main reason you THINK you know me is based on false assumptions. How do I know? If you knew my stance on the lottery in general, I'm against EXPECTING to win a JP, and don't even track it. I track the p-3 because it's the easiest game. But you'd already know this had you "known me". lol

                        People like you have a bad habit of denying the existence of a few individuals who are making a living on the p-3 and p-4, usually based on some antiquated, mass produced teachings that haven't evolved in Universities and Colleges. Your inability to predict the p-3 and/or the p-4, does not make it unattainable to everyone else. Like DUH!..lol

                        And finally, to address your grammar grope, If you're so cavalier about correcting people, I hope you don't mind that I address you as Virginlife125 from now on. Don't worry, I won't, but you get my message, right?

                        Thanks in reverse. lol

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                          I should've explained my post in more detail.

                          It's true that a p-3 game is also random, plus all the other attributes mentioned, but my intention was to show that the p-3 is many times easier to predict due to the 1 in 1,000 possible combos for a straight, as opposed to millions to 1 in a JP game.

                          Easier to predict or simply more likely that a guess will hit the mark?


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                            Posted: April 9, 2014, 12:55 am - IP Logged

                            Easier to predict or simply more likely that a guess will hit the mark?

                            A little of both. But in JP games, this will happen only .1% of the time as opposed to many more times with the p-3 games.

                            Bottomline, I'd rather win "here and there" in the pursuit of a method that may allow me wins to occur on a regular basis, but neither here or there, It's dramatically better than spending 40 bucks a week hoping to win a Major JP, which has a chance of .1% of occuring in your lifetime. Those odds suck, Period !

                            But as much as I try, I continually find myself facing a wall of Ignorance, and false hope by desperate humans on a quest to fool themselves. Safety blankets. lol


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                                yes i think it is a new system, i think  someone hacked in to my messagesRant

                              Its actually called the Katy-Did system.