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I think the systems or methods for predicts the lottery is illusion.

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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: October 14, 2014, 10:54 am - IP Logged

The different systems and / or methods to predict the lottery numbers are an illusion, I do not think there is a real method to predict the lottery.

Any one can predict, a prediction doesn't have to be right as most of them are wrong anyway.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    Posted: October 15, 2014, 11:58 am - IP Logged

    Why don't you write him an email or slowmail and ask how he do it?

    I already tried finding him, but to no avail.

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      bgonçalves
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      Posted: October 16, 2014, 8:17 am - IP Logged

      Hello, it's amazing that when you try to close 100% in a lottery, ie If you catch 75% to 80% of the combinations, in a certain number of draws
      Out the numbers in the 25% to 20% ie in the narrow range of the curve gauus

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        Posted: October 16, 2014, 11:58 pm - IP Logged

        Any one can predict, a prediction doesn't have to be right as most of them are wrong anyway.

        With lotto games you either buy a QP and hope those numbers are drawn or choose your own numbers and hope they are drawn. The majority of predicting and most of the bragging on LP is done in the forums, but strangely enough they have no "prediction" statistics. 

        "most of them are wrong anyway"

        Makes sense not to post predictions knowing you'll be wrong on all but a couple and maybe all of them. Now we know why they don't post their predictions on the Predictions Boards.

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          Posted: October 17, 2014, 3:55 am - IP Logged

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          A ticket not purchased can not win,  the prediction board says nothing about real world stats.

          Unless the posters are playing those lines, they don't mean anything.  Just another type of

          entertainment, IMHO.   Posting a list of numbers without a investment is quite different than

          putting the cash on the line.   Jimbe challenged me to prove my claims, I started posting my

          ticket scans and over the course of around 9 games I won over 5x my investment.  I started

          to post the next set only to find the topic had been locked.  I don't know what happened to

          get that post locked as some of the content was deleted.  Just because a member does not

          use the predictions board does not mean they don't win often.

          RL

          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

          USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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            Posted: October 17, 2014, 2:38 pm - IP Logged

            With lotto games you either buy a QP and hope those numbers are drawn or choose your own numbers and hope they are drawn. The majority of predicting and most of the bragging on LP is done in the forums, but strangely enough they have no "prediction" statistics. 

            "most of them are wrong anyway"

            Makes sense not to post predictions knowing you'll be wrong on all but a couple and maybe all of them. Now we know why they don't post their predictions on the Predictions Boards.

            Members who post 50 different predictions per drawing are probably expecting  most will be losers but I think they have more creditable bragging rights than those who just post "Trust me,I always win".

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: October 17, 2014, 6:01 pm - IP Logged

              Hi all

              I think people who start a post like this just want to argue, can't believe I even posted here.

              Stupid me,  I am out of here.

              RL

              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

              USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                Posted: October 17, 2014, 6:57 pm - IP Logged

                Hi all

                I think people who start a post like this just want to argue, can't believe I even posted here.

                Stupid me,  I am out of here.

                RL

                The ideas presented in this thread are excellent "food for thoughts".  I'm sorry you are leaving.  You have written many sagacious suggestions in the past and I had hoped you would find something in this thread which would add to the table.  Our loss; not yours.

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                  Posted: October 17, 2014, 8:25 pm - IP Logged

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                  A ticket not purchased can not win,  the prediction board says nothing about real world stats.

                  Unless the posters are playing those lines, they don't mean anything.  Just another type of

                  entertainment, IMHO.   Posting a list of numbers without a investment is quite different than

                  putting the cash on the line.   Jimbe challenged me to prove my claims, I started posting my

                  ticket scans and over the course of around 9 games I won over 5x my investment.  I started

                  to post the next set only to find the topic had been locked.  I don't know what happened to

                  get that post locked as some of the content was deleted.  Just because a member does not

                  use the predictions board does not mean they don't win often.

                  RL

                  RL,

                  The only difference between posting picks on the board and in posts is accountability, but the bottom line is always how well the wager did and not how well it did had I played it. I seriously doubt the people posting 50 lines "good for all states" are playing them and don't think anyone must wager especially when challenged to prove it by the likes of Jimmy.

                  If we all had to bet and show our predictions winning with actually lottery tickets, all the challenge games, the prediction board, and any post suggesting numbers to play would be a waste of time. Nobody has to prove they played, but it's really a shame when people post more predictions than they can win on and then brag about getting a box hit.

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                    Posted: October 17, 2014, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

                    The different systems and / or methods to predict the lottery numbers are an illusion, I do not think there is a real method to predict the lottery.

                    try telling that to folks who have been cashing out on these 'illusions'

                    "No matter how bad things may get, I'd like to thank my middle finger

                    for always sticking up for me.."

                     


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                      Posted: October 18, 2014, 10:59 am - IP Logged

                      The ideas presented in this thread are excellent "food for thoughts".  I'm sorry you are leaving.  You have written many sagacious suggestions in the past and I had hoped you would find something in this thread which would add to the table.  Our loss; not yours.

                      GASMETERGUY

                      Not leaving LP just this topic, I just don't want to argue about which is better, system or luck. 

                      It's so easy to see one of these topics and get drawn into posting. 

                      I got better things to do, LOL.

                      Smash

                      RL

                      Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                      I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                      they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                      USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

                        US Flag Trump / 2016 & 2020  

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                        Posted: October 31, 2014, 10:12 am - IP Logged

                        This is something I've chimed in on before.....

                         

                        I consider myself to be decently educated when it comes to mathematics, after all I am a 5 year

                        college graduate with a B.S. in Computer Science and a minor in mathematics. I know some of you

                        are more advanced then I am mathematically, my point is that I'm fairly intelligent when it comes to math.

                         

                         

                        But anyways, I am a very logically thinking person and I'm just going to offer my opinions here.

                         

                        I feel that a system cannot accurately predict a winning result. I am inclined to think that at best, these systems

                        can give you a "sweet spot" for how many combinations you play vs the likelyhood you will win. It's common sense

                        more than involved math at that point. If you play every possible megaball number, then you know regardless of

                        which megaball is draw, you will match one of them.

                         

                        If we look at a quarter, it has two sides and thus two possible outcomes when it is flipped. Law of averages state that

                        it will land on either side 50% of the time. You can flip it 10 times, 100 times or 1,000,000 times and you should be

                        pretty close to that. After a long run of the result coming up one way, the law of averages says that the other side is

                        "due" to hit. Now on anyone one single flip, the probabilty does not change. It's still 50% for each side. This coin flip

                        doesn't "know anything" about the past 50 or next 50 flips.

                         

                        It's interesting enough. If your going to bet someone that they can flip heads, on a per flip basis then you'll probably wind

                        up about even. If your going to bet someone that they can flip heads 5 times in a row then you'll likely win the vast majority

                        of the times.

                         

                        The same applies to a dice, or even a jackpot game like mega millions or power ball. The balls don't know anything about

                        each other, or any previous/future drawings. Every single draw, every single number has the same odds of hitting. Will the

                        numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 come up together very often over a 1000 drawing stretch? Probably not, but they have the same chance to do

                        so as any other combination.

                         

                        I would say there can be merit in the systems, but to I don't believe they can pick winning numbers. They simply offer some "sweet spots"

                        as to how many combinations to cover. There is no promise to it, but they can also allude to numbers and combinations that "should be due"

                        It's true that the more you play, the better your chances are. If you don't play at all then you can't win

                        and if you play every combo you will almost always lose.

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                          Hello, getreal720, lotteries, mathematically you can go up to a point, say,
                            75% 80% (Pareto law) the other 25%, 20% will be random, certain patterns will give you more
                            Because by having more combinations than others, the greatest number of combinçoes exceeds the lowest,
                          Within the matrix, eg = 1,2,3,4,5,6, will give out fewer times than 01,15,23,36,45,59
                          Because of their sequence, as compared with previous results of the coin toss,
                          The toss of the coin has a single element has a draw of x = 49/6 has 12 elements
                          Initial and final digit eg 17 (1 and 7) each lottery draw brings together some patterns of DNA (seed)
                            That still did not know mathematically, previous results do not have menoria
                            But it has patterns and positions.

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                            Hello, get, speaking on quantity of digits look at the example
                            49/6 of the digits 0,1,2 = gave 135 times together while
                              789 gave two times, why? Because the digits both initial and final
                              The group has 14 times together 0,1,2 7,8,9 and 5 have sometimes
                              Ie the 0,1,2 are 9 times more likely to give together
                            It is the number of times, and the sum of the probabilities dominates
                              75%, 80% (Pareto)

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                              This is something I've chimed in on before.....

                               

                              I consider myself to be decently educated when it comes to mathematics, after all I am a 5 year

                              college graduate with a B.S. in Computer Science and a minor in mathematics. I know some of you

                              are more advanced then I am mathematically, my point is that I'm fairly intelligent when it comes to math.

                               

                               

                              But anyways, I am a very logically thinking person and I'm just going to offer my opinions here.

                               

                              I feel that a system cannot accurately predict a winning result. I am inclined to think that at best, these systems

                              can give you a "sweet spot" for how many combinations you play vs the likelyhood you will win. It's common sense

                              more than involved math at that point. If you play every possible megaball number, then you know regardless of

                              which megaball is draw, you will match one of them.

                               

                              If we look at a quarter, it has two sides and thus two possible outcomes when it is flipped. Law of averages state that

                              it will land on either side 50% of the time. You can flip it 10 times, 100 times or 1,000,000 times and you should be

                              pretty close to that. After a long run of the result coming up one way, the law of averages says that the other side is

                              "due" to hit. Now on anyone one single flip, the probabilty does not change. It's still 50% for each side. This coin flip

                              doesn't "know anything" about the past 50 or next 50 flips.

                               

                              It's interesting enough. If your going to bet someone that they can flip heads, on a per flip basis then you'll probably wind

                              up about even. If your going to bet someone that they can flip heads 5 times in a row then you'll likely win the vast majority

                              of the times.

                               

                              The same applies to a dice, or even a jackpot game like mega millions or power ball. The balls don't know anything about

                              each other, or any previous/future drawings. Every single draw, every single number has the same odds of hitting. Will the

                              numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 come up together very often over a 1000 drawing stretch? Probably not, but they have the same chance to do

                              so as any other combination.

                               

                              I would say there can be merit in the systems, but to I don't believe they can pick winning numbers. They simply offer some "sweet spots"

                              as to how many combinations to cover. There is no promise to it, but they can also allude to numbers and combinations that "should be due"

                              It's true that the more you play, the better your chances are. If you don't play at all then you can't win

                              and if you play every combo you will almost always lose.

                              The CA D3 runs off an algorithm. This isn't theory: it's in their rules. As a math guy, you should know that means it does NOT run off a purely random method (you should know, in fact, that it isn't even possible: flipping coins and how a computer determines a random selection, is like comparing apples to apes): it follows internal RULES. Those rules can be exploited. That exploitation is what we call... "strategy."

                              We have no dreams at all, or interesting ones. We should learn to be awake the same way—not at all, or in an interesting manner.   -- Friedrich Nietzsche