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Posted: March 19, 2015, 11:28 am - IP Logged

"I've yet to find a game that return more than 20%"

Was that $10 instant games?

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    Posted: March 19, 2015, 12:46 pm - IP Logged

    I started a lotto group in Cali back in the middle of 2011 and now we have just passed the $60 Thousand mark in total tickets purchased.

    I never thought the group would last this long. <snip>, maybe 1 year and maybe it was a done deal.

    There are only 8 of us and I assume we will eventually pass the $100K point in 3-4 more years.

    I was running some numbers and if 1 person spent $100 month = $1200 per year X 50 years straight, its about the same amount that we have spent; crazy ass <snip>…hahahahaha

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    The numbers are so random that even if you buy 1000 lottery tickets at once you have the same chance of winning as if you bought 1 lottery ticket. 

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      Posted: March 19, 2015, 2:42 pm - IP Logged

      "I've yet to find a game that return more than 20%"

      Was that $10 instant games?

      Ask BobP, it's his strategy.  I have noticed those "All or Nothing" games are returning 20%.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: March 19, 2015, 5:53 pm - IP Logged

        I started a lotto group in Cali back in the middle of 2011 and now we have just passed the $60 Thousand mark in total tickets purchased.

        I never thought the group would last this long. <snip>, maybe 1 year and maybe it was a done deal.

        There are only 8 of us and I assume we will eventually pass the $100K point in 3-4 more years.

        I was running some numbers and if 1 person spent $100 month = $1200 per year X 50 years straight, its about the same amount that we have spent; crazy ass <snip>…hahahahaha

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        Look on the bright side!

        You also won!

        You, and the others in your group, have benefited from the revenue raised!

        We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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          Posted: March 19, 2015, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

          Ask BobP, it's his strategy.  I have noticed those "All or Nothing" games are returning 20%.

          So far this month I'm getting about 17%. I have done better other months.

          Of course, I'm playing for a jackpot, not return percentages.

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            Posted: March 19, 2015, 11:24 pm - IP Logged

            I've heard other players say that but I've yet to find a game that return more than 20% of your money unless you get lucky and win a top prize.

            Proof the lottery understands how wheeling works.

            The trick is to create a paradigm shift by switching to a Pick-6 game and walking around general strategy and wheeling of the usual types.

            I suggest creating sets of three numbers, those that tend to hit together if you so choose, play each three number set against all others.  With a thousand dollar budget, you can do this several times and still have half left over.  Get any two groups correct (3/3) = jackpot!!!  other winning number configurations (3/2, 3/1, 2/2/2, 2/2,  can win multiple lower tier prizes.

            BobP

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              Posted: March 19, 2015, 11:34 pm - IP Logged

              So far this month I'm getting about 17%. I have done better other months.

              Of course, I'm playing for a jackpot, not return percentages.

              With overall odds of 1:4.5 how could you not do at least that good?  On the prediction board I played that game for one day and it put me in the top ten predictors for the month in all four categories.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: March 19, 2015, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

                With overall odds of 1:4.5 how could you not do at least that good?  On the prediction board I played that game for one day and it put me in the top ten predictors for the month in all four categories.

                Well, I only play one line, rarely multiple lines because of the cost. If I do play more than one line, it is with the same numbers twice to try for $500,000. So it's not unusual for me to go 3 or 4 days or more sometimes and not even get my $2 back.

                CAN'T WIN IF YOU'RE NOT IN

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                  Posted: March 19, 2015, 11:38 pm - IP Logged

                  Proof the lottery understands how wheeling works.

                  The trick is to create a paradigm shift by switching to a Pick-6 game and walking around general strategy and wheeling of the usual types.

                  I suggest creating sets of three numbers, those that tend to hit together if you so choose, play each three number set against all others.  With a thousand dollar budget, you can do this several times and still have half left over.  Get any two groups correct (3/3) = jackpot!!!  other winning number configurations (3/2, 3/1, 2/2/2, 2/2,  can win multiple lower tier prizes.

                  BobP

                  I was looking for something like that when Ohio Classic Lotto had a jackpot of $70M but couldn't find it.  Maybe I'll work on it and be ready the next OCL roll up to that amount, but I don't know about spending a thousand dollars.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    Posted: March 19, 2015, 11:42 pm - IP Logged

                    Well, I only play one line, rarely multiple lines because of the cost. If I do play more than one line, it is with the same numbers twice to try for $500,000. So it's not unusual for me to go 3 or 4 days or more sometimes and not even get my $2 back.

                    You do know that game goes pari-mutual if more than 20 people win the top prize?  I would think you would be better off playing different combinations.

                     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                       
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                      You do know that game goes pari-mutual if more than 20 people win the top prize?  I would think you would be better off playing different combinations.

                      Of course I know.

                      They made that change because so many people were playing all even or all odd, or the first 12 numbers or last 12 numbers. Which I used to do before the change. Now I don't play sets like that. And the only way there will be more than 20 jackpot winners is if one of those sets of numbers are drawn. About a year ago 11 out 12 numbers were all even. There were over 200 some $500 winners. So if all 12 had been even, each winner would have gotten about $21,000. As it is this game will go a month or more without a jackpot winner.

                      I just play either a QP, or a set from LP's RNG. If I want to play the same set twice for $500,000 I'll usually use LP's RNG. Some one in Temple won a year or two back like that. He played one set of numbers and then played the opposite set of numbers so he got all 12 on one line and 0 on the other. Didn't have to play that way, but it works either way.

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                        Posted: March 20, 2015, 12:44 pm - IP Logged

                        Of course I know.

                        They made that change because so many people were playing all even or all odd, or the first 12 numbers or last 12 numbers. Which I used to do before the change. Now I don't play sets like that. And the only way there will be more than 20 jackpot winners is if one of those sets of numbers are drawn. About a year ago 11 out 12 numbers were all even. There were over 200 some $500 winners. So if all 12 had been even, each winner would have gotten about $21,000. As it is this game will go a month or more without a jackpot winner.

                        I just play either a QP, or a set from LP's RNG. If I want to play the same set twice for $500,000 I'll usually use LP's RNG. Some one in Temple won a year or two back like that. He played one set of numbers and then played the opposite set of numbers so he got all 12 on one line and 0 on the other. Didn't have to play that way, but it works either way.

                        I see Texas is the only state with a $5M cap, all the other states have a smaller cap.  They must expect players in Texas to play bigger and win more.

                         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                           
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                          Posted: March 20, 2015, 12:50 pm - IP Logged

                          Proof the lottery understands how wheeling works.

                          The trick is to create a paradigm shift by switching to a Pick-6 game and walking around general strategy and wheeling of the usual types.

                          I suggest creating sets of three numbers, those that tend to hit together if you so choose, play each three number set against all others.  With a thousand dollar budget, you can do this several times and still have half left over.  Get any two groups correct (3/3) = jackpot!!!  other winning number configurations (3/2, 3/1, 2/2/2, 2/2,  can win multiple lower tier prizes.

                          BobP

                          I'm sure if winning a jackpot was that easy someone would be doing it, after all that Michigan couple that travel to Massachusetts to play their WinFall game were willing to spend $300K to match 5 of 6.

                           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                             
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                            Posted: March 20, 2015, 4:38 pm - IP Logged

                            Proof the lottery understands how wheeling works.

                            The trick is to create a paradigm shift by switching to a Pick-6 game and walking around general strategy and wheeling of the usual types.

                            I suggest creating sets of three numbers, those that tend to hit together if you so choose, play each three number set against all others.  With a thousand dollar budget, you can do this several times and still have half left over.  Get any two groups correct (3/3) = jackpot!!!  other winning number configurations (3/2, 3/1, 2/2/2, 2/2,  can win multiple lower tier prizes.

                            BobP

                            The odds calculator that I wrote and have been testing suggest trying that with Ohio's Classic Lotto(6/49) I would only get 10% of my money back with 19 wins, one 4of6 paying $70 and 18 3of6 paying $2 each.

                             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                               
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                              Posted: March 20, 2015, 8:30 pm - IP Logged

                              Some people just got lots of money to risk.  If I had that kind of money, I would you use it for a business or reinvest it into a successful business.

                              No offense to anybody.

                               

                              If lady luck never shows up,  I would hate to lose that kind of money; however, what people do with their own dollars is their

                              choice.