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Power Mega Balls with Three Sum Math

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We're reposting your reply from the topic How to simulate a distribution and use the lottery's own randomness against itself since this is the relevant topic.

We will get back to this a little later.

We are testing and finalizing a =DisimulateNexus(Numbers, Distribution, N1, N2) function for the other topic.

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Hello, Jade


You have made a great statistical work.
But the question is: what is this for?
Can you build a predictive algorithm from this knowledge?

 

Here's an example:
Take the Megaball, once again.

If the common player bet 1 number he will get 0.0666 hits per draw (1/15 = 0.0666). This is the REFERENCE or the so called Theoretical Average (TA).
My question is: using this system (3 sums) how many hits can you achieve per draw?

 

If after 100 samples, for example, you get 0.0666 hits a draw, then there is no advantage to follow it;

If you get a higher value means you can beat the TA so, in this case you are predicting;

finally, If you get a lower value you are also predicting because, in this case, you may bet against the algorithm.


However, I fear it is not possible to predict using this knowledge because there is a synchronizing problem, I mean, although similarities in simulated and real patterns, you need to synchronize your model with the reality of the game.
Several years ago when I started to develop predictive algorithms I lost a few hours or even days (I can`t remember exactly) with part of this same exercise you did and I quickly came to dead ends. However, you went a little bit further introducing simulated information.

But, I insist: is that enough to beat the odds, i.e. to get more than 0,0666 matches per drawing? If so, the system works.

 

But let`s see some obvious problems present in the 3 sums technique.

If the first 2 numbers of the sum are 1 + 1 + ... = 24 and knowing that the ideal sum of Megaball is 24, it means that the third number would be 22. Now, the ball 22 does not exist!!!

In the case of the first 2 numbers are 15+13+…= 24 the third number would be -4. However, Megaball does not contain negative numbers. Therefore, a brief review finds that there are dozens of black cases where the system does not work, because there are no enough numbers.

 

But the real problem is to construct predictive algorithms based on Euclidian maths when the reality is fractal. We can not fight fractal maths with Euclidian ou Gaussian maths. That is the reason why is so difficult to predict...

That is like fighting a war tank with a plastic revolver.

 

Regards

RENTAP

Lurking

Thanks!

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    interesting activity goings on after introduction of this and How to simulate a distribution and use the lottery's own randomness against itself.

    we'll have to monitor longer.

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      Yes.

      But in this case you have to find or design a "bad system", I mean, a system that consistently underperforms, when comparing with the reference or Theoretical Average for the same amount of numbers.

      But that is not easy. Actually, it is as difficult as to build a outperforming system....

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        Yes.

        But in this case you have to find or design a "bad system", I mean, a system that consistently underperforms, when comparing with the reference or Theoretical Average for the same amount of numbers.

        But that is not easy. Actually, it is as difficult as to build a outperforming system....

        Thinking of...

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          interesting activity goings on after introduction of this and How to simulate a distribution and use the lottery's own randomness against itself.

          we'll have to monitor longer.

          still in a monitor phase.

          interesting events goings on.

          we see through the quantum fog.

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            still in a monitor phase.

            interesting events goings on.

            we see through the quantum fog.

            Ok

            tell us things when finished

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              Would a deviation from the sum work?

              Example:

              Ill use a 37 ball game: use 37 minus the value of the digit.

              1 5 8 9 21.     

              2 6 9 13 31

              7 11 18 23 29

               

              The first line 36,32,29,28,16.

               2nd line.   35,31,28,24,6

              3rd line.    30,26,19,14,8.

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                2D seems to be working, but needs more testing.

                Also, wouldn't it be great to extend into 4 Sum, 5 Sum, maybe up to 11 Sums.

                Meaning, using the past 4, 5 or up to 11 draws to Quantum Select the next draw.

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                  Example for hotlotto?

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                    Example for hotlotto?

                    Doing Sums for the Pick 5 part of Hot Lotto is Monstrous.

                    Most computers can't handle the computations.

                    We can post it for the Hot Ball out to a Sum of 5 different numbers.

                    Hot Lotto Hot Ball Sums Frequency for 1 to 5
                    SumsSum 1Sum 2Sum 3Sum 4Sum 5
                    11····
                    211···
                    3121··
                    41331·
                    514641
                    61510105
                    716152015
                    817213535
                    918285670
                    10193684126
                    1111045120210
                    1211155165330
                    1311266220495
                    1411378286715
                    15114913641001
                    161151054551365
                    171161205601820
                    181171366802380
                    191181538163060
                    20·191719693876
                    21·1819011404845
                    22·1720713305985
                    23·1622215367315
                    24·1523517558850
                    25·14246198410601
                    26·13255222012575
                    27·12262246014775
                    28·11267270117200
                    29·10270294019845
                    30·9271317422701
                    31·8270340025755
                    32·7267361528990
                    33·6262381632385
                    34·5255400035915
                    35·4246416439551
                    36·3235430543260
                    37·2222442047005
                    38·1207450650745
                    39··190456054435
                    40··171457958026
                    41··153456061465
                    42··136450664695
                    43··120442067665
                    44··105430570330
                    45··91416472651
                    46··78400074595
                    47··66381676135
                    48··55361577250
                    49··45340077925
                    50··36317478151
                    51··28294077925
                    52··21270177250
                    53··15246076135
                    54··10222074595
                    55··6198472651
                    56··3175570330
                    57··1153667665
                    58···133064695
                    59···114061465
                    60···96958026
                    61···81654435
                    62···68050745
                    63···56047005
                    64···45543260
                    65···36439551
                    66···28635915
                    67···22032385
                    68···16528990
                    69···12025755
                    70···8422701
                    71···5619845
                    72···3517200
                    73···2014775
                    74···1012575
                    75···410601
                    76···18850
                    77····7315
                    78····5985
                    79····4845
                    80····3876
                    81····3060
                    82····2380
                    83····1820
                    84····1365
                    85····1001
                    86····715
                    87····495
                    88····330
                    89····210
                    90····126
                    91····70
                    92····35
                    93····15
                    94····5
                    95····1

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                      Doing Sums for the Pick 5 part of Hot Lotto is Monstrous.

                      Most computers can't handle the computations.

                      We can post it for the Hot Ball out to a Sum of 5 different numbers.

                      Hot Lotto Hot Ball Sums Frequency for 1 to 5
                      SumsSum 1Sum 2Sum 3Sum 4Sum 5
                      11····
                      211···
                      3121··
                      41331·
                      514641
                      61510105
                      716152015
                      817213535
                      918285670
                      10193684126
                      1111045120210
                      1211155165330
                      1311266220495
                      1411378286715
                      15114913641001
                      161151054551365
                      171161205601820
                      181171366802380
                      191181538163060
                      20·191719693876
                      21·1819011404845
                      22·1720713305985
                      23·1622215367315
                      24·1523517558850
                      25·14246198410601
                      26·13255222012575
                      27·12262246014775
                      28·11267270117200
                      29·10270294019845
                      30·9271317422701
                      31·8270340025755
                      32·7267361528990
                      33·6262381632385
                      34·5255400035915
                      35·4246416439551
                      36·3235430543260
                      37·2222442047005
                      38·1207450650745
                      39··190456054435
                      40··171457958026
                      41··153456061465
                      42··136450664695
                      43··120442067665
                      44··105430570330
                      45··91416472651
                      46··78400074595
                      47··66381676135
                      48··55361577250
                      49··45340077925
                      50··36317478151
                      51··28294077925
                      52··21270177250
                      53··15246076135
                      54··10222074595
                      55··6198472651
                      56··3175570330
                      57··1153667665
                      58···133064695
                      59···114061465
                      60···96958026
                      61···81654435
                      62···68050745
                      63···56047005
                      64···45543260
                      65···36439551
                      66···28635915
                      67···22032385
                      68···16528990
                      69···12025755
                      70···8422701
                      71···5619845
                      72···3517200
                      73···2014775
                      74···1012575
                      75···410601
                      76···18850
                      77····7315
                      78····5985
                      79····4845
                      80····3876
                      81····3060
                      82····2380
                      83····1820
                      84····1365
                      85····1001
                      86····715
                      87····495
                      88····330
                      89····210
                      90····126
                      91····70
                      92····35
                      93····15
                      94····5
                      95····1

                      Keep up the great work!

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                        Keep up the great work!

                        I'll use for today.

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                          I'll use for today.

                          Reads Good.

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                            Thanks for all your work this year!

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                              Thanks for all your work this year!

                              You are welcome.

                              Have a lucky new year.

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