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# What do you NEED to come up with a Winning Lotto System??

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Krypton
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As TX was  involved with the Original Post, I'll start here.

To view/download my file on the Tx Pick 4 game - Go To -    https://app.box.com/s/i4t1b3d6v75kuwf8wkwqfpsvdy637qmi

I download all 4 daily drawings starting with 09/09/13 thru yesterday 08/29/15.  Total Drawings in my Data File 2,472 as of 08/29/15.

My next step will be to assign a Group # to each drawing that matches all 4 numbers in a box configuration.  I started with the first 20 drawings listed  below..

What I usually look for is the number of Hits with the Column of the same name that contains a lot hits.  High lighted in Light Blue, I see the number 10.  This tells me that Group (GRP) 8 on line 8 under the CNT (count column) has 10 hits as of right now.  I am going to resort the file to show me what makes up the different number of Groups.  See 2nd table under this one.

Here is what it looks like.  DC = Draw Code (Morning, Day, Evening, & Night).  The Sum column shows the actual sum of the 4 digits.  Ignore the TOT Column as it will make sense at a later time.

The Enter Number = is where I enter the 4 digit number that I want to bump up against the entire spreadsheet (or range of my data base.)

 Enter Number  = 1 9 0 5 15 TX Pick 4 CNT DATE DC #1 #2 #3 #4 GRP SUM TOT Hits 1 2013-09-09 1M 3 4 0 8 1 15 1 5 2 2013-09-09 2D 5 0 5 8 2 18 3 5 3 2013-09-09 3E 5 4 4 8 3 21 1 4 4 2013-09-09 4N 4 9 4 0 4 17 2 5 5 2013-09-10 1M 9 1 0 6 5 16 3 9 6 2013-09-10 2D 4 5 0 6 6 15 2 6 7 2013-09-10 3E 4 7 3 8 7 22 0 5 8 2013-09-10 4N 6 0 3 9 8 18 2 10 9 2013-09-11 1M 0 0 8 2 9 10 2 4 10 2013-09-11 2D 6 9 2 6 0 23 1 1 11 2013-09-11 3E 0 0 1 7 10 8 3 7 12 2013-09-11 4N 2 3 9 6 11 20 1 4 13 2013-09-12 1M 3 9 5 1 12 18 3 6 14 2013-09-12 2D 6 6 1 7 13 20 1 6 15 2013-09-12 3E 6 0 6 2 14 14 1 3 16 2013-09-12 4N 7 3 6 7 15 23 0 6 17 2013-09-13 1M 7 2 8 7 16 24 0 8 18 2013-09-13 2D 5 8 4 0 17 17 2 8 19 2013-09-13 3E 6 3 1 8 18 18 1 8 20 2013-09-13 4N 1 9 0 5 19 15 4 3 21 2013-09-14 1M 0 4 0 9 13 3 22 2013-09-14 2D 4 7 0 2 13 1 23 2013-09-14 3E 7 0 2 6 15 1 24 2013-09-14 4N 5 6 9 1 21 3 25 2013-09-16 1M 2 5 0 5 12 3

2nd Table.....................................................................................

You will notice in Grp  8 Below with 10 hits so far,  5 out of 10 drawings hit in the Night Drawing.  In a case like this, I would have a tendency to play a STR Box for the Night Drawing.  Playing the numbers 0369 & 0963 as both of these numbers have come in Twice as shown  with the Lite shaded green in there GRP #.

Just food for thought.

As of right now - I have 19 Groups listed below makes up 112 drawings.  I color code the numbers in each GRP (blue for odd number groups & gray for even number groups.  This makes it easier on the eyes when I go and sort  the file by GRP #.

 Enter Number  = 1 9 0 5 15 TX Pick 4 CNT DATE DC #1 #2 #3 #4 GRP SUM TOT Hits 1 2013-09-11 2D 6 9 2 6 0 23 1 1 2 2014-11-12 1M 0 3 4 8 1 15 1 5 3 2013-09-09 1M 3 4 0 8 1 15 1 5 4 2015-02-24 1M 3 4 0 8 1 15 1 5 5 2014-02-01 4N 4 0 8 3 1 15 1 5 6 2015-07-04 2D 8 3 4 0 1 15 1 5 7 2015-08-18 3E 0 5 5 8 2 18 3 5 8 2013-09-09 2D 5 0 5 8 2 18 3 5 9 2014-10-25 2D 5 0 5 8 2 18 3 5 10 2014-06-25 2D 5 8 5 0 2 18 3 5 11 2015-04-23 4N 5 8 5 0 2 18 3 5 12 2014-06-27 2D 4 4 5 8 3 21 1 4 13 2015-01-03 2D 4 8 4 5 3 21 1 4 14 2013-09-09 3E 5 4 4 8 3 21 1 4 15 2014-07-14 4N 5 4 8 4 3 21 1 4 16 2015-07-25 3E 0 4 4 9 4 17 2 5 17 2013-12-28 3E 4 0 9 4 4 17 2 5 18 2014-10-25 3E 4 4 0 9 4 17 2 5 19 2014-01-07 4N 4 4 9 0 4 17 2 5 20 2013-09-09 4N 4 9 4 0 4 17 2 5 21 2014-11-07 3E 0 1 6 9 5 16 3 9 22 2015-03-07 2D 0 1 6 9 5 16 3 9 23 2014-08-13 2D 0 9 6 1 5 16 3 9 24 2013-10-05 2D 9 0 1 6 5 16 3 9 25 2015-07-17 3E 9 0 6 1 5 16 3 9 26 2013-09-10 1M 9 1 0 6 5 16 3 9 27 2015-08-06 2D 9 1 0 6 5 16 3 9 28 2014-03-18 4N 9 1 6 0 5 16 3 9 29 2015-02-09 2D 9 6 1 0 5 16 3 9 30 2014-11-11 1M 0 4 6 5 6 15 2 6 31 2014-12-29 3E 0 4 6 5 6 15 2 6 32 2013-09-10 2D 4 5 0 6 6 15 2 6 33 2014-08-05 4N 4 6 5 0 6 15 2 6 34 2014-07-29 3E 5 4 6 0 6 15 2 6 35 2014-03-15 4N 6 0 5 4 6 15 2 6 36 2013-09-10 3E 4 7 3 8 7 22 0 5 37 2014-04-25 3E 7 8 3 4 7 22 0 5 38 2014-02-28 2D 7 8 4 3 7 22 0 5 39 2014-11-19 3E 8 3 4 7 7 22 0 5 40 2014-01-01 3E 8 4 3 7 7 22 0 5 41 2015-05-13 4N 0 3 6 9 8 18 2 10 42 2015-08-25 4N 0 3 6 9 8 18 2 10 43 2014-04-09 3E 0 6 3 9 8 18 2 10 44 2014-12-19 2D 0 6 9 3 8 18 2 10 45 2015-01-01 1M 0 9 3 6 8 18 2 10 46 2014-10-06 1M 0 9 6 3 8 18 2 10 47 2015-08-17 4N 0 9 6 3 8 18 2 10 48 2013-09-10 4N 6 0 3 9 8 18 2 10 49 2015-08-29 4N 6 3 0 9 8 18 2 10 50 2015-07-03 1M 6 9 0 3 8 18 2 10 51 2013-09-11 1M 0 0 8 2 9 10 2 4 52 2015-08-17 2D 0 8 0 2 9 10 2 4 53 2015-02-20 3E 2 8 0 0 9 10 2 4 54 2013-10-16 3E 8 2 0 0 9 10 2 4 55 2013-09-11 3E 0 0 1 7 10 8 3 7 56 2015-07-18 2D 0 1 7 0 10 8 3 7 57 2015-01-05 2D 0 7 0 1 10 8 3 7 58 2015-08-07 2D 0 7 0 1 10 8 3 7 59 2015-01-23 4N 1 0 7 0 10 8 3 7 60 2014-12-05 1M 7 0 1 0 10 8 3 7 61 2015-06-03 2D 7 0 1 0 10 8 3 7 62 2013-09-11 4N 2 3 9 6 11 20 1 4 63 2015-07-10 1M 3 6 2 9 11 20 1 4 64 2014-03-25 3E 3 6 9 2 11 20 1 4 65 2015-01-22 2D 6 3 2 9 11 20 1 4 66 2015-01-07 4N 1 3 5 9 12 18 3 6 67 2013-09-12 1M 3 9 5 1 12 18 3 6 68 2014-12-08 3E 5 1 9 3 12 18 3 6 69 2014-09-01 2D 9 1 5 3 12 18 3 6 70 2015-04-23 3E 9 3 5 1 12 18 3 6 71 2015-02-27 3E 9 5 3 1 12 18 3 6 72 2014-03-18 2D 1 6 7 6 13 20 1 6 73 2015-07-08 4N 1 6 7 6 13 20 1 6 74 2013-09-12 2D 6 6 1 7 13 20 1 6 75 2015-02-26 3E 7 6 1 6 13 20 1 6 76 2015-04-11 1M 7 6 6 1 13 20 1 6 77 2015-08-14 2D 7 6 6 1 13 20 1 6 78 2014-11-21 2D 0 2 6 6 14 14 1 3 79 2014-09-20 1M 0 6 2 6 14 14 1 3 80 2013-09-12 3E 6 0 6 2 14 14 1 3 81 2013-11-16 4N 6 3 7 7 15 23 0 6 82 2014-06-30 4N 6 7 3 7 15 23 0 6 83 2013-09-12 4N 7 3 6 7 15 23 0 6 84 2015-07-31 4N 7 3 6 7 15 23 0 6 85 2013-11-11 3E 7 6 3 7 15 23 0 6 86 2014-03-22 1M 7 7 3 6 15 23 0 6 87 2013-09-13 1M 7 2 8 7 16 24 0 8 88 2014-10-15 1M 7 2 8 7 16 24 0 8 89 2015-01-09 2D 7 2 8 7 16 24 0 8 90 2013-11-09 3E 7 7 8 2 16 24 0 8 91 2015-04-15 2D 7 7 8 2 16 24 0 8 92 2015-02-14 1M 7 8 7 2 16 24 0 8 93 2014-04-05 4N 8 2 7 7 16 24 0 8 94 2014-03-21 2D 8 7 2 7 16 24 0 8 95 2015-07-30 3E 0 4 5 8 17 17 2 8 96 2013-09-17 4N 0 5 4 8 17 17 2 8 97 2014-03-20 2D 0 8 5 4 17 17 2 8 98 2014-06-03 1M 0 8 5 4 17 17 2 8 99 2014-07-30 1M 4 0 8 5 17 17 2 8 100 2014-06-18 4N 5 4 0 8 17 17 2 8 101 2015-04-02 1M 5 4 8 0 17 17 2 8 102 2013-09-13 2D 5 8 4 0 17 17 2 8 103 2013-12-24 4N 3 6 8 1 18 18 1 8 104 2015-03-10 1M 3 6 8 1 18 18 1 8 105 2015-01-19 2D 6 1 3 8 18 18 1 8 106 2013-09-13 3E 6 3 1 8 18 18 1 8 107 2014-06-25 1M 8 3 1 6 18 18 1 8 108 2014-07-23 1M 8 3 6 1 18 18 1 8 109 2013-12-03 1M 8 6 1 3 18 18 1 8 110 2015-02-23 4N 8 6 1 3 18 18 1 8 111 2013-11-13 4N 1 0 5 9 19 15 4 3 112 2013-09-13 4N 1 9 0 5 19 15 4 3 113 2015-07-22 3E 9 1 0 5 19 15 4 3

Hopefully you will able to understand what I am trying to do as I go along.  The thing you have to realize is that there are combinations in every jackpot game & even Pick 4 games such as this.  Bottom line is that knowing which combinations of numbers come in the most often will make you a better player.  One other thing that should be noted, is that Groups in the Tx Pick 4 game will not be valid for any other Pick 4 game.

My Groups in the IL Pick 4 game has its own set of Number which are not valid for any other Pick 4 game.

Each game has it own set of numbers or Groups.

Thanks for posting Texas Butch. I'll look over this even though my main focus has been on jackpot games.

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You are really becoming a pain in the butt.   So put up or shut up......    Here is just one of my many winnings over the years.  It just happens to be my largest.  I have many over 1K.   Lets see if you can show us any winnings over 1K  on your end...    Predictions are a means of showing others how well one is able to predict.  It is not a game...  but you wouldn't understand that.

BTW congrats Butch. I personally know you put a lot of time in your system(s) as well as help others which is much appreciative.  I'm really not sure what's going on with you and G but I like both you guys. I think something got skewed in some mis communications sonewherex in this post. I really have no clue nor do I want to get in the middle. Oops guess I just did lol

G .... Butch is a stand up guy brother and Butch so is G IMHO and I love ya both but you do need to know .... I am a lesbian. .... Lol.

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BTW congrats Butch. I personally know you put a lot of time in your system(s) as well as help others which is much appreciative.  I'm really not sure what's going on with you and G but I like both you guys. I think something got skewed in some mis communications sonewherex in this post. I really have no clue nor do I want to get in the middle. Oops guess I just did lol

G .... Butch is a stand up guy brother and Butch so is G IMHO and I love ya both but you do need to know .... I am a lesbian. .... Lol.

No worries Skyline. We all have miscommunication and differing opinions at times. Best thing to do is each person say their piece and move on. None of it will matter next week anyway.

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I agree completely.............................

To view/download my file on the Tx Pick 4 game - Go To -    https://app.box.com/s/i4t1b3d6v75kuwf8wkwqfpsvdy637qmi

It'll take about a week to complete the file, so don't get to over excited.  Right now I have 50 Groups which are made up of 300 drawings of the total drawings of 2,472 beginning with the start date of 09/09/13.

Rome wasn't built in a day & neither will this file.  But once, it is finished, it will only take a minute or two to update.

I will try to update the file on a daily basics & will let you know when the final product is complete................

Until then, Good Luck & Best Wishes To ALL.....................................

You should be able to view/download the file from day to day to see the changes made from the previous day.

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"The law of averages sort of dictates that any set of numbers for any game will be correct, now and then.
After all, a broken clock gives correct time twice a day."

I hope you're right because I feel I'm on the edge of a break through and since I play jackpot games, I only have to be right once.

You can  open a thread for this. The wins are what they pay, at pick 3 just the half of would it could pay. Sticking to the subject, dictation by law of averages, or big numbers if you want, you are trying to beat the wheel, talking roulette. Only, the set limits don't really work, and if you raise the bet and don't win in the end or meet a betting limit, you lost money. I never heard a mathematician being positive about playing the lottery. For a programmer this might be a little project or eventually a bigger one, testing technology or abilities.

The first post is too long to read for me, I like it short, direct and compact.

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What do you need to come up with a winning Lotto system.  All you have to do is view the prediction pages of an individual to really know what someone knows.    At least I put my money where my mouth is.  More than I can say about some people.........................

And I like how someone uses the word " We " as if he speaks for everyone on LP..............................  Like the old saying goes " The Proof is in the Pudding "  You can view the "pudding" below....................................

garyo1954: Statistics Summary

Summary

Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime
Picks000010
Hits00000
Hit Ratio0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%
Winnings\$0\$0\$0\$0\$0
Prize Ratio0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%0.00%

butch2030: Statistics Summary

Summary

Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime
Picks5,4009,10038,0873,400600,744
Hits611445811922,287
Hit Ratio1.13%1.58%1.53%0.56%3.71%
Winnings\$3,542\$954\$18,930\$640\$204,077
Prize Ratio62.14%9.69%46.36%18.82%32.42%
 Pick 4 Picks 2,000 2,900 15,187 2,050 42,737 Hits 6 3 37 5 80 Hit Ratio 0.30% 0.10% 0.24% 0.24% 0.19% Winnings \$3,200 \$400 \$16,500 \$500 \$33,500 Prize Ratio 160.00% 13.79% 108.65% 24.39% 78.39%

Good Luck & Best Wishes To ALL.................................................

It's like butch2030 said "The proof is in the pudding"

RJOh: Statistics Summary

Summary

Statistic  Current Month  Last Month  Current Year  Last Year  Lifetime
Picks2992852,0701,15620,880
Hits4647331291,064
Hit Ratio15.38%16.49%15.99%2.51%5.10%
Winnings\$154\$219\$1,767\$67\$26,058
Prize Ratio31.49%47.92%50.81%5.66%115.18%

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You can  open a thread for this. The wins are what they pay, at pick 3 just the half of would it could pay. Sticking to the subject, dictation by law of averages, or big numbers if you want, you are trying to beat the wheel, talking roulette. Only, the set limits don't really work, and if you raise the bet and don't win in the end or meet a betting limit, you lost money. I never heard a mathematician being positive about playing the lottery. For a programmer this might be a little project or eventually a bigger one, testing technology or abilities.

The first post is too long to read for me, I like it short, direct and compact.

"The first post is too long to read for me, I like it short, direct and compact."

Facts are playing the lotteries is gambling and if you don't want to chance losing a lot of money then you shouldn't play or just play a line or two and hope to get lucky.  If you don't want to spend a lot time reading and doing research then developing a system isn't for you.  It's a personal choice that only you can make, it doesn't matter what others are doing or thinking.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one *

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When you are a good player, you need a bankroll to play. I can play, but don't have the bankroll for it. Money rather goes to espressos and where it should be spent.

Talking of development, few people come with clear ideas of what they want. That is why they get nothing done. Others just puzzle you. I have my tools, my ideas and I like some spontaneous picking once in a while, just like at roulette. That can create nice wins, and is intuitively mostly correct.

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When you are a good player, you need a bankroll to play. I can play, but don't have the bankroll for it. Money rather goes to espressos and where it should be spent.

Talking of development, few people come with clear ideas of what they want. That is why they get nothing done. Others just puzzle you. I have my tools, my ideas and I like some spontaneous picking once in a while, just like at roulette. That can create nice wins, and is intuitively mostly correct.

"Talking of development, few people come with clear ideas of what they want. That is why they get nothing done."

Player have a clear idea that they want to win and often, they just don't have any clear ideas of how to go about it.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one *

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To view/download my file on the Tx Pick 4 game - Go To -    https://app.box.com/s/i4t1b3d6v75kuwf8wkwqfpsvdy637qmi

It'll take about a week to complete the file, so don't get to over excited.  Right now I have 175 Groups which are made up of 987 drawings of the total drawings of 2,472 beginning with the start date of 09/09/13.

Rome wasn't built in a day & neither will this file.  But once, it is finished, it will only take a minute or two to update.

I will try to update the file on a daily basics & will let you know when the final product is complete................

Until then, Good Luck & Best Wishes To ALL.....................................

You should be able to view/download the file from day to day to see the changes made from the previous day.

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"Talking of development, few people come with clear ideas of what they want. That is why they get nothing done."

Player have a clear idea that they want to win and often, they just don't have any clear ideas of how to go about it.

"Player have a clear idea that they want to win and often, they just don't have any clear ideas of how to go about it."

System players let their budgets limit what they can try and yet if their system was a winning system a budget would be the least of their worries.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one *

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When you are a good player, you need a bankroll to play. I can play, but don't have the bankroll for it. Money rather goes to espressos and where it should be spent.

Talking of development, few people come with clear ideas of what they want. That is why they get nothing done. Others just puzzle you. I have my tools, my ideas and I like some spontaneous picking once in a while, just like at roulette. That can create nice wins, and is intuitively mostly correct.

If you have a winning system that takes a bankroll to play why not share it and the strategy behind it, maybe a group of LP investors will use it.  There are some Steve Player fans among the members and all his systems are expensive and take a bankroll to play.  I've always thought a winning system pays for itself.

* you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning one *

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If you have a winning system that takes a bankroll to play why not share it and the strategy behind it, maybe a group of LP investors will use it.  There are some Steve Player fans among the members and all his systems are expensive and take a bankroll to play.  I've always thought a winning system pays for itself.

Explain these LP investors.  I'm not asking for name specific   Do you know for a "fact" there are some?  How does one set up a meeting with them?  What have they done in the past?

thanks

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A system/method that uses old mathematical formulas , almost all calculations concerning any outcome that is based on numbers is/was always based on continuous unbroken cycle of results from past draws .

This means when you participate in every game with a minus expectation , the player must and will lose . When the player chooses to participate in only select series of draws .. Which has been proven to give the player  an advantage over any random occurrence at times .

Most people play the Pick  3 /Pick 4 without ever considering the odds of hitting any jackpot are continuously shifting back and forth from almost impossible to likely . A system/method will let the player know when to play and duration of play for games with minimum  amount of sets/lines to play .

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Explain these LP investors.  I'm not asking for name specific   Do you know for a "fact" there are some?  How does one set up a meeting with them?  What have they done in the past?