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Posted: December 22, 2015, 9:53 am - IP Logged

I have to revisit this program.  I've been busier than a one-armed paper hanger. 

 

Can you set it up to enter the past 25 games of p3?  Where the user can enter 25 draws and have the a,b,c outputs?

 

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    Posted: December 22, 2015, 9:57 am - IP Logged

    Yep, A more bizarre stuff in the Clockwise Only.

    Somethin's openin' up before X-mas.

    Also, the middle Number B is missing the 1.

     

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      So, why is the Clockwise Only potentially showing a non-random selection with numbers being picked in column A?

      Well, it's because even though a deviant non-random number might hide itself in the numbers, it can not hide from itself.

      It goes like this.

      From our earlier post, the Clockwise Only formula is ' =Mod((b - a) - 1, 10) + 1 '; where (b - a) is the mathematical difference from a to b.

      In random selection, both a and b are random, and the difference between them, (b - a), is random.

      However, if one or both of a and b are non-random, then the difference, (b - a), must be non-random.

      Below is a truth table showing the case events:

      ab(b - a)
      randomrandomrandom
      randomnon-randomnon-random
      non-randomrandomnon-random
      non-randomnon-randomnon-random

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        So, why is the Clockwise Only potentially showing a non-random selection with numbers being picked in column A?

        Well, it's because even though a deviant non-random number might hide itself in the numbers, it can not hide from itself.

        It goes like this.

        From our earlier post, the Clockwise Only formula is ' =Mod((b - a) - 1, 10) + 1 '; where (b - a) is the mathematical difference from a to b.

        In random selection, both a and b are random, and the difference between them, (b - a), is random.

        However, if one or both of a and b are non-random, then the difference, (b - a), must be non-random.

        Below is a truth table showing the case events:

        ab(b - a)
        randomrandomrandom
        randomnon-randomnon-random
        non-randomrandomnon-random
        non-randomnon-randomnon-random

        Interesting!

        How about them cowboys!

         

         

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          Posted: December 22, 2015, 10:57 am - IP Logged

          Here's an example of random Pick 3 selection.

          We can see there's some gaps, but not long.

          Also, we see the Clockwise Only appears similar to the Number; some gaps, but not long.

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            Posted: December 22, 2015, 11:00 am - IP Logged

            But what happens when we try to influence the selection process, in essence making the numbers non-random and trying to hide it.

            Below is a non-random Pick 3 selection.

            We'll just show the Numbers itself.

            Next we'll show you the Clockwise Only, and the unhidden crime.

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              We can see when we apply the Clockwise Only formula, it reveals the truth about the Numbers.

              As you can see, there is a noticeable problem in the upper half of the Clockwise Only numbers 1 to 10.

              There are fewer occurrences in the Clockwise Only from about 6 to 10.

              You'll also notice these non-random selections are not very obvious in the Numbers itself.

              Only by comparing the Numbers to itself using a simple difference of (b - a) does it show the crime.

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                Can you make this like positional 1,2,3 positions for an input of 15 draws?  Show how the numbers move from position to position.  I would like to try this .

                How about them cowboys!

                 

                 

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                  Just looking at the movement numbers (NM p3 morning) showed a straight 571 this week. Your da man Jade!

                   

                  IndexABCABCABC
                  1178------
                  2687519-51-1
                  3571994-1-14
                  40785107-50-3
                  58288510-2-50
                  6332514-514
                  7446114114
                  8917571-5-31
                  9476569-5-4-1
                  10690224224
                  11167577-5-3-3
                  1229313613-4
                  13045852-2-52

                  Im looking at a 249 width 7 this morning.

                  How about them cowboys!

                   

                   

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                    we're looking at another expression of the clockwise only moves as a set of just 0 - 9 numbers.

                    this would give you a playable set of numbers that keep them in that range of 0 - 9.

                    essentially, the 10 is 0 in that expression.

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                      we're looking at another expression of the clockwise only moves as a set of just 0 - 9 numbers.

                      this would give you a playable set of numbers that keep them in that range of 0 - 9.

                      essentially, the 10 is 0 in that expression.

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                      Groovy!

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                        "However, if one or both of a and b are non-random, then the difference, (b - a), must be non-random"

                        I disagree and it doesn't matter if you subtract or add

                        Let's let numbers range from 0 to 9

                        a = constant

                        b = random in the range of 0 - 9

                        c = random in the range of 0 - 9

                        b - c will have a range of -9 to 9 and will be random (b + c will be equally random with a range of 0 to 18)

                        a - c will have a range of -c to 9-c and will be random (a+c will be equally random with a range of c to c+9)

                         

                        Adding or subtracting a constant from a set of random numbers does not in any way affect their randomness, just their range

                        Multiplying a set of random numbers by a constant also doesn't affect their randomness

                        Dividing a set of random numbers by a constant also doesn't affect their randomness

                         

                        The adding and multiplying by constants is exactly how you convert a random number generator's output to a sequence with a desired range.

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                          If you haven't scrolled right on the last post, here's what got us wondering.

                          You can see there have been no clockwise moves in 6, 7 or 8 since early September.

                          We looked at the other columns in MN Daily 3; both B and C, but this is the only one that has this kind of trend.

                          This got us thinking and it dawned on us that MN allows betting on the first digit only (column A).

                          What's also coincidental is on 2015-09-09 Eddie Tipton was sentenced to 10 years in prison... weird, huh?

                          Since we discovered this flaw, we had been posting bogus Pick 3 numbers in the Lottery Post's Prediction Board.

                          Or, more to the point, the Losing first digit number that would have been covered by the missing clockwise moves: 6, 7 and 8.

                          The first step in analyzing should be asking "what is the probability of this occurring"

                          While you seeing something in 6,7,8 that is just because your mapping of gaps into 1-10 makes those obvious.  Any other set of 3 gaps showing the same pattern would be just as likely.  There are 128 different combination of 3 digits so there are 128 different sets of 3 gaps that would be just as interesting as this particular set of three gaps.

                          You got interested when the gap was 27 drawings long.  What are the odds that any of three specific clockwise moves won't show up in a set of two drawings?  70%

                          So what are the odds that they won't show up 27 consecutive times?  .7 to the 27th power or about 1 in 15,000.

                           

                          Since there are 128 different sets of three gaps the odds that you'll see a gap of 27 drawings for any set of 3 clockwise moves is 1 in 120

                          You have a sample size of 10,000 so there are almost certainly MANY gaps of 27 drawings for other sets of 3 clockwise moves.  You just can't see them because you only have placed 7 such sets adjacent to each other in your graph.

                           

                          My conclusion, just another example of how you can manipulate data to make patterns appear in large data sets that might seem unusual but really aren't

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                            The first step in analyzing should be asking "what is the probability of this occurring"

                            While you seeing something in 6,7,8 that is just because your mapping of gaps into 1-10 makes those obvious.  Any other set of 3 gaps showing the same pattern would be just as likely.  There are 128 different combination of 3 digits so there are 128 different sets of 3 gaps that would be just as interesting as this particular set of three gaps.

                            You got interested when the gap was 27 drawings long.  What are the odds that any of three specific clockwise moves won't show up in a set of two drawings?  70%

                            So what are the odds that they won't show up 27 consecutive times?  .7 to the 27th power or about 1 in 15,000.

                             

                            Since there are 128 different sets of three gaps the odds that you'll see a gap of 27 drawings for any set of 3 clockwise moves is 1 in 120

                            You have a sample size of 10,000 so there are almost certainly MANY gaps of 27 drawings for other sets of 3 clockwise moves.  You just can't see them because you only have placed 7 such sets adjacent to each other in your graph.

                             

                            My conclusion, just another example of how you can manipulate data to make patterns appear in large data sets that might seem unusual but really aren't

                            BS

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                              "However, if one or both of a and b are non-random, then the difference, (b - a), must be non-random"

                              I disagree and it doesn't matter if you subtract or add

                              Let's let numbers range from 0 to 9

                              a = constant

                              b = random in the range of 0 - 9

                              c = random in the range of 0 - 9

                              b - c will have a range of -9 to 9 and will be random (b + c will be equally random with a range of 0 to 18)

                              a - c will have a range of -c to 9-c and will be random (a+c will be equally random with a range of c to c+9)

                               

                              Adding or subtracting a constant from a set of random numbers does not in any way affect their randomness, just their range

                              Multiplying a set of random numbers by a constant also doesn't affect their randomness

                              Dividing a set of random numbers by a constant also doesn't affect their randomness

                               

                              The adding and multiplying by constants is exactly how you convert a random number generator's output to a sequence with a desired range.

                              Actually, 'a' can't always be constant in a stream of data, so, your point is invalid.

                              If a stream of data is dn = {d0, d1, d2, d3, d4, ...}, then a =  dn and b = dn+1.

                              'a' can be any value at any point in the data.

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