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If you have a question, ask it. If you have something to offer, give it. If it's not for you, simply move on.....very simple.

Ok.. see above.. I asked questions... was there something wrong with them?

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    Was there really something so terrible about what I said here???

    Yeah, there is, you asked the terrible question that few here seem to want to address, "Have you looked at whether the pairs created with this system hit any more than 11 or 12 random pairs?"

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      Again, with emphasis.....Every system producer here freely offers their creation for us to try. There is no such system as one that will win in every state every day for a profit. The simple answer to your question is to back-test the system/s you are interested in in your state. If it works and plays at a profit, congratulations. If it doesn't, please move on to the next one. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. However, as far as I can recall, you have seemed to make it your personal mission to destroy the credibility of every system offered here in the last month or two..........All I can say is that if every system offered here is going to come under attack, then members will stop offering them, which kinda destroys the whole mission of this forum. There are some members here that I know are full of bovine excrement, but I simply don't bother reading their posts instead of attacking them every time they post.

      "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us"

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        Again, with emphasis.....Every system producer here freely offers their creation for us to try. There is no such system as one that will win in every state every day for a profit. The simple answer to your question is to back-test the system/s you are interested in in your state. If it works and plays at a profit, congratulations. If it doesn't, please move on to the next one. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. However, as far as I can recall, you have seemed to make it your personal mission to destroy the credibility of every system offered here in the last month or two..........All I can say is that if every system offered here is going to come under attack, then members will stop offering them, which kinda destroys the whole mission of this forum. There are some members here that I know are full of bovine excrement, but I simply don't bother reading their posts instead of attacking them every time they post.

        Well said SW.  I agree 100%. 

        I have more stuff I won't bother to post after all the comments I've seen lately.  I'm on a lot less than I used to. I will be working on  and using new and old stuff.  So there is no need to waste time reading garbage.  I'll drop by once in a while to see what's new but I won't spend as much time as I did in the past.

        The social part of this forum is good at times but the crap some people spew like deception and the like has gotten to be very old.  Its like being back in middle school.  Its ruining this forum.

         

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          Again, with emphasis.....Every system producer here freely offers their creation for us to try. There is no such system as one that will win in every state every day for a profit. The simple answer to your question is to back-test the system/s you are interested in in your state. If it works and plays at a profit, congratulations. If it doesn't, please move on to the next one. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. However, as far as I can recall, you have seemed to make it your personal mission to destroy the credibility of every system offered here in the last month or two..........All I can say is that if every system offered here is going to come under attack, then members will stop offering them, which kinda destroys the whole mission of this forum. There are some members here that I know are full of bovine excrement, but I simply don't bother reading their posts instead of attacking them every time they post.

          I understand. They offer their system. And they are offering it in a forum that is for discussing lottery systems. So they have opened up their system to discussion. There is more to discussion than just saying "you are a amazing" "wow that is awesome" and such. 

          In the discussion in this thread. I questioned the statement the system producer made that you could play 30 boxed combos per day, hit every 10 days, and make a profit. What about my questions was an attack??? As I said, am I missing something? Perhaps what he was trying to say wasn't coming across or there was a typo?

          Or perhaps he was missing something that he didn't realize, and pointing it out would allow him to tweak/modify to correct it, thus improving the system??? Which is what people are trying to do here right???

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            There was nothing wrong with asking your original question....Lakerben did an excellent job of answering it immediately after you asked it. For arguments sake, I'm going to assume that you missed his answer....In these forums, most members will give you the basic mechanics of their systems, but that doesn't mean "do this, then that, then poof, there's your winner". It still requires some work on your part, which is what Lakerben was referring to. Go back and re-read his response and maybe it will make sense to you. Nothings free, you're still going to have to do a little work on your own to get your winner.

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              There was nothing wrong with asking your original question....Lakerben did an excellent job of answering it immediately after you asked it. For arguments sake, I'm going to assume that you missed his answer....In these forums, most members will give you the basic mechanics of their systems, but that doesn't mean "do this, then that, then poof, there's your winner". It still requires some work on your part, which is what Lakerben was referring to. Go back and re-read his response and maybe it will make sense to you. Nothings free, you're still going to have to do a little work on your own to get your winner.

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                Who are the bullys??? Find a post where I've been using put-downs and name calling? There's several here, looks like you are deciding to join them, who use those tactics all the time. Someone says something they disagree with, they respond with a bunch of put downs, name calling, and bullying. Sometimes its more like a kindergarten playground than a discussion forum.

                 

                The topic of the forum is to discuss lottery systems.

                Your post and comments presumes the innumeracy of LP community(my impression), all your discussions about stats is not new. Trust me folks are very much aware of  the odds , does this prevent them from trying?

                Let me ask you this simple questions: 

                What's the probability of hitting a straight pick 3?

                What are the ODDS of hitting a straight pick 3?

                What's the probability time frame for a straight pick 3?

                What's the ODDS time frame for a straight picks3?

                NB:You subscribe to the lottery been random(from many of your comments), hence , a quick pick is as good as any system pick, right? then why bother yourself with comments when you have ' a settled position? You can't have a 'closed' position with probability considering the underlying nuances.

                I subscribe to lottery been random, but my approach  in selecting picks does prevent me from looking at other ideals, try to give some suggestions, your sound like ' Account Auditor'.

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                  Yes you did.  I don't think he said to play every pair. If he posted 38 different pairs would most members use them all?  No!  They use filters,due digits,sums,repeat digits before they decide.

                  The smart players play recent digits and some recent digits could be mixed with the ones shown.  Its not always gloom or doom,oh my gosh I found a fault in this persons system.  I've used  it and I don't use every pair.  If it comes close to my other workouts its a good thing.  There are information :widths,roots,last sums digits,sums that a seasoned player uses.  Something to chew on.

                   

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                  This is the clear answer?

                  Except it looked like he did say to play 30 combos...

                  And all this answers is what lakerben does, when what I was interested in was what Goseahawks, the poster of the system, does.

                  I get that predicting pairs doesn't necessarily mean play every combo of every pair. Yes, filter apply other systems and what not.

                  HOWEVER, the idea of a system the predicts pairs, would ideally be that those pairs actually hit more than random pairs would. Which is why I asked the question. It really doesn't matter if a pairs system produces a number of pairs that hits 80% of the time in a certain number of draws if random pairs would hit exactly the same %. If that's the case, then the system is just a different way of picking random pairs to play. 

                  Now, if the system produces pairs that hit a higher percentage of the time than random pairs would, then, even though you are not playing every possible combo within them, you are improving your chances by playing within them. Which is why the systems should be tested against what random picks would give under the same circumstances.

                  But if you do anything like that here, you are attacking and negative.

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                    I'm done. My time is more valuable than this......

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                      I understand. They offer their system. And they are offering it in a forum that is for discussing lottery systems. So they have opened up their system to discussion. There is more to discussion than just saying "you are a amazing" "wow that is awesome" and such. 

                      In the discussion in this thread. I questioned the statement the system producer made that you could play 30 boxed combos per day, hit every 10 days, and make a profit. What about my questions was an attack??? As I said, am I missing something? Perhaps what he was trying to say wasn't coming across or there was a typo?

                      Or perhaps he was missing something that he didn't realize, and pointing it out would allow him to tweak/modify to correct it, thus improving the system??? Which is what people are trying to do here right???

                      Goseahawks  said you could use the budget pairs 56-58-67-69-78-89 to get hits. Well, he was right. The pairs hit 9 times in the last 30 days in Wisconsin. If you use the 0,1,2,3,4 as the 3rd digit as he suggested you had 5 hits out of the 9. You do not need to play all 30 combos every day. As you can see below, there was only 1 time the pairs hit 2 days in a row.      When I do my workouts, I have 60 numbers to start with. But I will only play 20 -25 at most. If I can play less I will. However, if I use too small of a list I can miss out on a winner. It's a decision we all have to make. 

                       

                      Fri, Apr 8, 2016WisconsinPick 37-0-6
                      Wed, Apr 6, 2016WisconsinPick 36-0-7
                      Mon, Apr 4, 2016WisconsinPick 36-5-5
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                      Wed, Mar 23, 2016WisconsinPick 31-6-5
                      Sun, Mar 20, 2016WisconsinPick 38-5-5
                      Sat, Mar 19, 2016WisconsinPick 38-8-5
                      Wed, Mar 16, 2016WisconsinPick 36-7-1
                      Sat, Mar 12, 2016WisconsinPick 36-1-5

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                        Your post and comments presumes the innumeracy of LP community(my impression), all your discussions about stats is not new. Trust me folks are very much aware of  the odds , does this prevent them from trying?

                        Let me ask you this simple questions: 

                        What's the probability of hitting a straight pick 3?

                        What are the ODDS of hitting a straight pick 3?

                        What's the probability time frame for a straight pick 3?

                        What's the ODDS time frame for a straight picks3?

                        NB:You subscribe to the lottery been random(from many of your comments), hence , a quick pick is as good as any system pick, right? then why bother yourself with comments when you have ' a settled position? You can't have a 'closed' position with probability considering the underlying nuances.

                        I subscribe to lottery been random, but my approach  in selecting picks does prevent me from looking at other ideals, try to give some suggestions, your sound like ' Account Auditor'.

                        Sure thing, at this point in time I believe the lottery to be random. At least that the attempt is that it is random. The lottery makes a huge profit with it being random, so not so sure about an incentive to make it not random intentionally. But you are wrong, I do not have a "closed" position on randomness. Well, maybe with the bouncing balls idk. I would be convinced that the computer generated numbers are not randomly generated when there is evidence that shows so. I would love to discover that evidence, or see that someone else has discovered that evidence, because obviously it would give a much better chance at making a profit at this.

                        I'm sure your other questions have a point, so I'll do my best.

                        Straight pick 3 probability with 1 play: 1 in 1000 or 0.1%

                        " " " " Odds: 1:999

                        Probability time frame with 1 play: Over enough time 1 every 1000 plays.

                        Honestly not really sure what ODDS time frame is sorry.

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                          Goseahawks  said you could use the budget pairs 56-58-67-69-78-89 to get hits. Well, he was right. The pairs hit 9 times in the last 30 days in Wisconsin. If you use the 0,1,2,3,4 as the 3rd digit as he suggested you had 5 hits out of the 9. You do not need to play all 30 combos every day. As you can see below, there was only 1 time the pairs hit 2 days in a row.      When I do my workouts, I have 60 numbers to start with. But I will only play 20 -25 at most. If I can play less I will. However, if I use too small of a list I can miss out on a winner. It's a decision we all have to make. 

                           

                          Fri, Apr 8, 2016WisconsinPick 37-0-6
                          Wed, Apr 6, 2016WisconsinPick 36-0-7
                          Mon, Apr 4, 2016WisconsinPick 36-5-5
                          Fri, Apr 1, 2016WisconsinPick 39-6-8
                          Wed, Mar 23, 2016WisconsinPick 31-6-5
                          Sun, Mar 20, 2016WisconsinPick 38-5-5
                          Sat, Mar 19, 2016WisconsinPick 38-8-5
                          Wed, Mar 16, 2016WisconsinPick 36-7-1
                          Sat, Mar 12, 2016WisconsinPick 36-1-5

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                          Right, if you picked the right numbers you hit 5 times out of 30 draws.

                          So there was a hit within the 30 potential combos 5 times over 30 draws. Does that mean the system works? There is no way to analyze whether it works or not without working through the math, probability, and such, to determine whether it is hitting any more or less or equal to what one would expect with any 30 combos with similar distribution of singles and doubles.

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                            Sure thing, at this point in time I believe the lottery to be random. At least that the attempt is that it is random. The lottery makes a huge profit with it being random, so not so sure about an incentive to make it not random intentionally. But you are wrong, I do not have a "closed" position on randomness. Well, maybe with the bouncing balls idk. I would be convinced that the computer generated numbers are not randomly generated when there is evidence that shows so. I would love to discover that evidence, or see that someone else has discovered that evidence, because obviously it would give a much better chance at making a profit at this.

                            I'm sure your other questions have a point, so I'll do my best.

                            Straight pick 3 probability with 1 play: 1 in 1000 or 0.1%

                            " " " " Odds: 1:999

                            Probability time frame with 1 play: Over enough time 1 every 1000 plays.

                            Honestly not really sure what ODDS time frame is sorry.

                            So a straight pick is within 1 to 1000cycles, then your pick could be the next 5, 10,30 ...cycles, that's the beauty of nuance, you wiggle back and forth with waging strategy. P3 has regulations, take advantage of those regulations, this will define your waging strategy, hence your odds.

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                              Right, if you picked the right numbers you hit 5 times out of 30 draws.

                              So there was a hit within the 30 potential combos 5 times over 30 draws. Does that mean the system works? There is no way to analyze whether it works or not without working through the math, probability, and such, to determine whether it is hitting any more or less or equal to what one would expect with any 30 combos with similar distribution of singles and doubles.

                              Does it work? You got 5 hits right? That's better than a lot of other people do. If it didn't work you wouldn't have had any. If you take any group of 30 combos with a similar distribution of singles and doubles the singles will hit 72% of the time, doubles 27% or close to it.

                              Again there is no need to play every day. The history over the last 30 days show the pairs hit 2 - 4 days after the prior hit. So why would you play every day? If it hits you wait 2 days then play. If it goes 4 days without hitting you stop, then wait till the next time it hits. Then wait another 2 days before you play again. It's not a hard pattern to see.

                              "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                              The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

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