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Goseahawks -111/+222..and observation high pair chart

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Does it work? You got 5 hits right? That's better than a lot of other people do. If it didn't work you wouldn't have had any. If you take any group of 30 combos with a similar distribution of singles and doubles the singles will hit 72% of the time, doubles 27% or close to it.

Again there is no need to play every day. The history over the last 30 days show the pairs hit 2 - 4 days after the prior hit. So why would you play every day? If it hits you wait 2 days then play. If it goes 4 days without hitting you stop, then wait till the next time it hits. Then wait another 2 days before you play again. It's not a hard pattern to see.

I didn't get 5 hits unless I played all 30 combos each draw, or happened to pick the right ones of those 30 combos to play on the right days.

Maybe we just view things as working differently. To me, if its a system that "works" it give you some predictions or narrows down the numbers in a way that is better than just picking random numbers.

Anyways, why couldn't we just have discussed Goseahawks system like I was trying to do, instead of getting all the bullying about asking questions?

I would have liked to know whether there was some research that showed those particular combos showing more often than would just regularly be expected.

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    Goseahawks MINUS -111, PLUS +222 SYSYTEM, using LOTTO MATH

    Take the last 2 hits, add them together. Once added, subtract -111 from it, (keeping) your
    results. Now add 222 to your result, while maintaining your original results. You should end
    up with 6 digits. Now wheel those 6 digits into,(2) digit pairs. Within 5 days, one or more of those pairs will show. NOTE!!, SOMETIMES THE ENTIRE FUTURE COMBO, IS WITHIN THE 6 DIGITS, WITHIN 5-7 DAYS ...THIS THEORY ALSO WORKS FOR THE PICK 4. ONLY THING DIFFERENT, YOU HAVE A 3 DIGITS TRIAD OR WHEEL ALL 6 DIGITS, TO GET THE FULL BOX COMBO. FOLLOW SAME STEPS AS PICK 3.

    example CA MIDAY WEND MARCH 9TH..LAST HIT---       750
                                 TUES  MARCH 8TH..PREVIOUS-      +779
                                                                                    --------
                                                                                      429
                                                                                   -  111
                                                                                   =====
                                                                                      318-SAVE
                                                                                   + 222
                                                                                   ---------
                                                                                      530-SAVE

    NOW TAKE BOTH SAVE GROUPS, AND SORT LOW TO HIGH......013358...MAKE INTO PAIRS...01 03 05 08 13 15 18 33 35 38 58 ...

    WITHIN 6 DAYS ONE OR MORE PAIRS WILL SHOW ,ARE THE ENTIRE COMBO WILL SHOW WITHIN ALLWITHIN 7 DAYS

    MARCH16-854
    MARCH 15-734
    MARCH14-801..01,18,08...ENTIRE COMBO
    MARCH 13-527
    MARCH 12-730...03 PAIR
    MARCH11-708..08 PAIR AGAIN
    MARCH 10-082..08 PAIR...WITH IN 5 DAYS PAIRS SHOWED A LOT. WITHIN 6...801 HIT...

    Do pick 4 the same way
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------=======-----------------------------------------------------------

    GOSEAHAWKS PICK 3 OBSERVATION HIGH DIGIT PAIR CHART.

    In this chart, time or timing is a factor within 6 days. Here is a list of evens/odds/and mixs high digit pairs that hits in any states pick 3 game within 6 days. Base on my extensive research and attention to the game, Ive notice that these pairs shows often. Why,is because they have too. THE KEY DIGITS TO GO WITH EACH PAIR ARE; 0,1,2,3,AND 4.

    Here are the pairs;

    55 56 57 58 59
    66 67 68 69
    77 78 79
    88 89
    99

    Now, for those that wants to be on a budget, I suggest picking out the mix pairs;
    56,58,67,69,78,89 ...adding 0,1,2,3,and 4 to all, giving you 30 box combos, doing it this way, grants you a hit within 10 days avg. with some profits

    So, looking specifically at the Pick 3 Observation High Digit Pair Chart and the "budget plays":

    Turns out with the key digits not appearing in the pairs, each of the 30 combos is a single. Playing those boxed therefore covers 180 of the 1000 different pick 3 combinations. 18%.

    Picking any 180 of the 1000 different pick 3 combinations randomly, expected hits would be 5-6 (5.4 to be exact) over 30 days.

    So, in the example noted of the last 30 days in Wisconsin, 5 hits within the combos wouldn't be any more than we would expect from using random singles combos boxed.

    I am definitely not saying that this means it doesn't do better over a longer period of observation or in other states, just the the example of 5 in 30 doesn't mean it stands out here.

    Goseahawks explanation says these pairs show often. Why? Because they have to. He would be right that they would show with the key third digits every 5 or 6 days. Caveat is that any pairs and 3rd digits that create 30 singles combos would be expected to have the same results.

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      I didn't get 5 hits unless I played all 30 combos each draw, or happened to pick the right ones of those 30 combos to play on the right days.

      Maybe we just view things as working differently. To me, if its a system that "works" it give you some predictions or narrows down the numbers in a way that is better than just picking random numbers.

      Anyways, why couldn't we just have discussed Goseahawks system like I was trying to do, instead of getting all the bullying about asking questions?

      I would have liked to know whether there was some research that showed those particular combos showing more often than would just regularly be expected.

      To win in the Pick 3-4 you have to first learn the game and study how it works in your state. As you do, you know what to look for and when to play. You learn how to "read" the numbers. You learn what numbers appear together and how the patterns and trends work. Every state is different. It takes a lot of time to get good at it, mistakes will be made. But as they say, we learn from our mistakes.

      There are a lot of people here that post systems. Some work, some don't. They don't work in all states for the most part. The best thing to do is back test in your state. If you find one that sort of works, try tweaking it to make it better. If it doesn't work, look for another method. Or better yet develop your own.

      If a system works it will give you wins. You can narrow down your play list as much as you want. But the more you do, the tougher it is. You don't have to play every day to hit. Like I said in my last post, the pairs were hitting every 2-4 days after the previous hit. If you know that, you only play at that time. That is your states pattern for those pairs. Use that to your advantage. That way you aren't spending a crap load of money. Every state has it's own patterns and trends. Learn what they are and you'll do alright. It takes time, work and effort, but there is no other way.

      Do a search here for Clean Numbers, and sums and root sums charts. Copy them down. Track them on a daily basis. This is  basic exercise that every one does and where you will learn the game and what to play and when.

      Good Luck!!!

      "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

      The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

      Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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        I'm done. My time is more valuable than this......

        Did you get all those percentages and pairs ? There is enough there to write a book, especially when you don't have to play all the pairs.  How many times does something need to be explained to be clear??   Bash  Bash

        I need a drink after this! Lol.

        How about them cowboys!

         

         

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          Again, with emphasis.....Every system producer here freely offers their creation for us to try. There is no such system as one that will win in every state every day for a profit. The simple answer to your question is to back-test the system/s you are interested in in your state. If it works and plays at a profit, congratulations. If it doesn't, please move on to the next one. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. However, as far as I can recall, you have seemed to make it your personal mission to destroy the credibility of every system offered here in the last month or two..........All I can say is that if every system offered here is going to come under attack, then members will stop offering them, which kinda destroys the whole mission of this forum. There are some members here that I know are full of bovine excrement, but I simply don't bother reading their posts instead of attacking them every time they post.

          I guess he didn't read this post.  This many picks ,this percentage of that, baloney!  If you say it's random then you can't assign any percentage besides 100%.  Either you win or lose!

          This reminds me of a tornado I saw near Oklahoma City about 20 years ago. It destroyed everything in its path.

           

           

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            Did you get all those percentages and pairs ? There is enough there to write a book, especially when you don't have to play all the pairs.  How many times does something need to be explained to be clear??   Bash  Bash

            I need a drink after this! Lol.

            Yeah, me too. My head hurts........

            "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us"

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              Yeah, me too. My head hurts........

              Watch the next system that is posted.  We will see more of the same.  This 33% of 55 pairs from the last chart determines tomorrow's outcome even if you don't bet.   But you won't win with the 12 pairs from last week etc... Am I making sense yet? 

               

              Thinking of...

              How about them cowboys!

               

               

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                Watch the next system that is posted.  We will see more of the same.  This 33% of 55 pairs from the last chart determines tomorrow's outcome even if you don't bet.   But you won't win with the 12 pairs from last week etc... Am I making sense yet? 

                 

                Thinking of...

                We got it lakerben. You are a gambler that doesn't care about your chances of winning. Many successful gambler's out there with the same philosophy.

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                  I didn't get 5 hits unless I played all 30 combos each draw, or happened to pick the right ones of those 30 combos to play on the right days.

                  Maybe we just view things as working differently. To me, if its a system that "works" it give you some predictions or narrows down the numbers in a way that is better than just picking random numbers.

                  Anyways, why couldn't we just have discussed Goseahawks system like I was trying to do, instead of getting all the bullying about asking questions?

                  I would have liked to know whether there was some research that showed those particular combos showing more often than would just regularly be expected.

                  I'm going to chime in here one more time then I will probably never respond to any of your posts again.

                  I looked at WI, which is a RNG state and  CT, which is a ball state. In the last 40 days, both states had one of the budget pairs appear 10 times. So, if random, appears to be about the same in each type of drawing. CT had it with a "key" number 8 times. WI, not so much, 4.

                  However, I am not an expert on odds or probability. If I did the math correctly, that's about 25%. 55 pairs in pick 3. Seems like a lot of occurrences over other pairs to me. 

                  So, as I understand it, you take issue with where he got "facts". He says "extensive research and observance of the game." That's where it came from.

                  You also take issue with whether it is more than would be regularly expected. If these 6 pairs have a tendency to show 25% of the time, and there are 55 pairs, would we say they will show more than others? Simple math would suggest so. BTW, repeat pairs are an amazing thing.

                  So, since we all hopefully have observed and learned, if we use other measures to bring a choice of other digits to use with these pairs, we would logically be able to "hit" these numbers in a drawing.

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                    I didn't get 5 hits unless I played all 30 combos each draw, or happened to pick the right ones of those 30 combos to play on the right days.

                    Maybe we just view things as working differently. To me, if its a system that "works" it give you some predictions or narrows down the numbers in a way that is better than just picking random numbers.

                    Anyways, why couldn't we just have discussed Goseahawks system like I was trying to do, instead of getting all the bullying about asking questions?

                    I would have liked to know whether there was some research that showed those particular combos showing more often than would just regularly be expected.

                    Nobody is bullying you.  Your analysis of everything you post is  like a bull in a China shop and it never makes any sense.  SW was very kind to say the least but you never read or listen.  Gruwston tried to make it clear and you are so head strong so nothing gets through.  You just plow through a system and make zero sense and when the dust clears people head to the bar.  Like goose hawk stated try the system and if you don't like it move on.  He even stated that you dont have to use every pair,but did you listen? No. But you plow on like a F5 tornado through a Kansas Barn.

                     

                    Thinking of...

                    How about them cowboys!

                     

                     

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                      Well SWMcCaig,

                      It appears that the only thing accepted here is to high-five and hoo-raa for any system anyone makes here. Do not ask questions, point out faulty math, and for sure, never talk about whether something actually works or not.

                      No system how great, will work every draw, everyday. 

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                        No system how great, will work every draw, everyday. 

                        Got it, no one has suggested it should.

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                          I'm going to chime in here one more time then I will probably never respond to any of your posts again.

                          I looked at WI, which is a RNG state and  CT, which is a ball state. In the last 40 days, both states had one of the budget pairs appear 10 times. So, if random, appears to be about the same in each type of drawing. CT had it with a "key" number 8 times. WI, not so much, 4.

                          However, I am not an expert on odds or probability. If I did the math correctly, that's about 25%. 55 pairs in pick 3. Seems like a lot of occurrences over other pairs to me. 

                          So, as I understand it, you take issue with where he got "facts". He says "extensive research and observance of the game." That's where it came from.

                          You also take issue with whether it is more than would be regularly expected. If these 6 pairs have a tendency to show 25% of the time, and there are 55 pairs, would we say they will show more than others? Simple math would suggest so. BTW, repeat pairs are an amazing thing.

                          So, since we all hopefully have observed and learned, if we use other measures to bring a choice of other digits to use with these pairs, we would logically be able to "hit" these numbers in a drawing.

                          First of all, I didn't "take issue" with anything like what you are talking about. I just asked the guy some questions and looked for some clarification. I guess I did question his statement of playing 30 combos, hitting in 10 draws, and making a profit. It didn't seem to add up and it doesn't add up. Fine. That's really the least of things here as it looked like an off the cuff type of statement. So he could clarify what he meant and move on.

                          You can use the simple math, which you aren't taking the correct conclusion from, or you can use the correct math. My suggestion, which you are free to ignore, is that if you are playing with real money, it would make sense to use the correct math. Or you can just eyeball it and guess if that's your thing.

                          I don't know who's right. grwurston says that in Wisconsin last 30 days one of the pairs with a key digit occurred 5 times. you say in Wisconsin last 40 days it occurred 4 times. Doesn't really matter I'm going to assume you are right at least on the 10 in 40 for each state for the pairs themselves. That's where your 25% comes from. 

                          You note it looks like the pairs are showing about 25%, and that is noteworthy because we are only talking about 6 of the 55 possible pairs. First problem you run in to is that each time one of those pairs shows, 2 of the other pairs are showing as well: you have pair 12; when 123 hits, pairs 13 and 23 also showed. If its a singles draw, then 3 pairs show. If doubles, 2 pairs. If trips, then 1.

                          If you are talking about just the pairs without the key digits, I believe each pair would cover 54 of the 1000 potential combinations (8 singles and 2 doubles combos for each). With 6 pairs that would give you 324 of the 1000 potential combinations. So with any 6 random pairs (except double pairs), if there were no overlapping combos, you would expect to see one of them show 32.4% of the time. I expect there are a few overlapping combos, which probably gets you closer to the 25% mark.

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                            Got it, no one has suggested it should.

                            Not trying to start a flare up, but honestly, you don't "got it".  You seem to be looking for a fool proof, 100% accurate all the time working system. You may deny this, but think about it. Every time you point out a system that doesn't work, you should remind yourself that systems aren't 100% accurate, ore even close. And this revelation would stop you from going one step further in your investigation.

                            In other words, If someone is aware that no system works 100% of the time, or even 80% of the time, why would they waste their time pointing out the inferior parts of the system? The inferior parts obviously make up the 20%, so it should be expected? No?

                            It's like saying this over and over again ...."I'm confident this parachute will open up on my way down, but there have been cases where people pulled the tab and the chute didn't open". 

                            There's nothing wrong with being inquisitive, never stop asking questions, just try to ask more relevant questions, not the obvious..

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                              Not trying to start a flare up, but honestly, you don't "got it".  You seem to be looking for a fool proof, 100% accurate all the time working system. You may deny this, but think about it. Every time you point out a system that doesn't work, you should remind yourself that systems aren't 100% accurate, ore even close. And this revelation would stop you from going one step further in your investigation.

                              In other words, If someone is aware that no system works 100% of the time, or even 80% of the time, why would they waste their time pointing out the inferior parts of the system? The inferior parts obviously make up the 20%, so it should be expected? No?

                              It's like saying this over and over again ...."I'm confident this parachute will open up on my way down, but there have been cases where people pulled the tab and the chute didn't open". 

                              There's nothing wrong with being inquisitive, never stop asking questions, just try to ask more relevant questions, not the obvious..

                              Why bother anymore nothing gets through to this member.  Four pages of explanation etc.  And the same outcome paragraphs of meaningless babble in response. Either that or he's doing this to get on people's nerves.

                              Somebody  pull the plug!

                               

                              BashBashBash

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