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Sign the petition - eliminate computerized drawings!

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Posted: September 21, 2005, 7:15 am - IP Logged

LottoMike,

You bring up a good point. 

Now is the perfect time for North Carolina residents to start writing in mass numbers to their representatives (Senate, House, Governor) and tell them in no uncertain terms that you will not accept computerized drawings.

Can you imagine waiting all that time, just to get fake drawings?

 

Check the State Lottery Report Card
What grade did your lottery earn?

 

Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
Help eliminate computerized drawings!


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    Posted: October 6, 2005, 8:14 pm - IP Logged

    Which 2 states are joining which lottery games? As far as a petition goes, have petitions ever been effective for anything? (I would like the petition to be successful, but am wondering if something more proactive needs to be done to keep the system from changing to computerized drawings). I don't trust a computerized game either because even a random generator has to have logical code written. Today I tried the random number generator for powerball on this website and got the same powerball number (the 6th number), 4 times in a row-- what are the odds of that? My biggest concern, however, would be the potential for hacking. I hope the visual balls with numbers method stays. When is the final decision made?


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      Posted: October 6, 2005, 8:21 pm - IP Logged

      I find it interesting if a state is willing to go to computerized multi state lotteries and feel they are "safe", how do these same states justify not being able to buy tickets online within your OWN state because of all the fraud potential. (if you write your state lottery that doesn't sell tickets online and ask them why you can't buy a subscription online from them, listen to what they tell you)---it sounds like a contradiction to the "security" of computerized drawings. Maybe this point can be made in the petition--- to quote why the lottery won't let you buy tickets online when you live in their state--- why is one computer method safe, and another not?


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        Posted: October 6, 2005, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

        Does anyone have a list of which states sell their subscriptions to tickets online to their "state" lotteries? I remember when I lived in Illinois I could subscribe, but I could not subscribe to any other states I lived in.

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          Posted: October 6, 2005, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

          If all interested people sign, get friends and family to sign then there is a multiplying effect.   

          Also contact your legislators to let your concerns be known because they can't read your mind and seem to respond to the group that's most vocally persuasive about an issue.

          Good luck to everyone!

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            Posted: October 10, 2005, 10:01 am - IP Logged

            Yeah, I'll sign the petition ..... Where do I sign up

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              Posted: October 12, 2005, 12:29 pm - IP Logged

              The campaign to eliminate computer drawings might have struck pay dirt in Texas.

              The Texas Lottery Commission, www.txlottery.org, is seeking bids for new Pick 3 mechanical drawing machines.

              These machines will apparently replace those now in use. 

              Of course, a change to computers could still be on the TLC long term agenda.

               

               

               

               

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                Posted: October 12, 2005, 2:01 pm - IP Logged

                here is a good place for lottery products maybe you could email them this link

                http://www.garronlottery.com/

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                  Posted: October 16, 2005, 4:52 pm - IP Logged

                  signed

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                    Posted: October 18, 2005, 1:38 pm - IP Logged

                    you got it

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                      Posted: October 20, 2005, 1:30 am - IP Logged

                      signed

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                        I'm not signing, and I realize I'm in the vocal minority here (yeah, I read all the posts in this thread). I've read the arguments presented in the petition and I'm aware of the problems that have occurred historically with computer drawn games. I think that a campaign that flat out opposes computerised drawings just adds to the technophobia which fuels the public's alleged lack of confidence in such drawings. I personally think that the interests of the lottery playing community (here in the States) would be better served if people instead pressed for state and/or federal standards and transparency in conducting lotteries.

                        I would be concerned about the algorithms being used in computerized drawings; both algorithms to ensure/simulate randomness and the algorithms to produce the announced set. I would be concerned about who has access to the computers being used. But don't similar concerns exist for mechanical lottery processes? Watching a drawing on TV might be fun, but is it enough to convince you that the selection process has merit? Besides aren't ball drawings are only random in a practical sense? I see a lot of Physics at work; certainly difficult to forcast with all of the variables, but does that make it any more or less random than a good RNG?

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                          Posted: October 27, 2005, 7:50 pm - IP Logged

                          Hmmn, very good!

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                            Posted: November 2, 2005, 6:47 am - IP Logged

                            I actually won more via computerized drawings for pick 3 DAY drawings, than nightly ball drawings. But I would not be comfortable with huge jackpot computerized drawings for some reason. I prefer watching the balls go around, and rooting for my numbers to come out.

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                              Posted: November 2, 2005, 7:19 am - IP Logged

                              sirbrad,

                              Congrats on your wins!  I, too, enjoy watching the tumbling lottery balls.  After all, computerized drawings are not really drawings at all -- they are just "random numbers".  What's the fun in telling a computer to pick some numbers?  What's there for the player to enjoy?

                               

                              Check the State Lottery Report Card
                              What grade did your lottery earn?

                               

                              Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                              Help eliminate computerized drawings!

                                 
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