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Sign the petition - eliminate computerized drawings!

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Posted: November 2, 2005, 7:27 am - IP Logged

Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. Even though my picks seem to be much closer, or 'winners' during DAY time drawings, I prefer the ball drawings.

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    Posted: November 2, 2005, 4:55 pm - IP Logged

    I've actually won more with ball drawings then computerized drawings. I am losey at Pick 3. (Which is computerized here.)

    I signed the petition awhile ago, but I got my mom to sign it as well. She's not really into the lottery or anything, but I asked her to sign it and she did. Heh.

    Dance like no one is watching.

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      Posted: November 7, 2005, 7:55 pm - IP Logged

      We can land a man on the moon.  We can make a missile hit a target the size of a dime from a thousand miles away.

      And yes, Virginia, we can rig a lottery through computerized drawings. 

      Yes, there ARE software programs and computers powerful enough in the year 2005! that can scan all the combinations players selected in the half hour BEFORE the drawing to make sure the WINNING combination selected does NOT match any of what the PLAYERS selected.  How can there not be in this day and age?

      I'm personally convinced this is what happens in Delaware with its computerized Lotto.  Do I have proof?  No.  But do you need proof of the winter to know winter is coming?

      The ONLY reason computerized drawings exist is to increase the states' profitability, at OUR expense.  I no longer play ANY lottery that is computerized.  If everyone followed suit, they would cease to exist because then that state would be brought to its knees. 

      Who's with me?

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        Posted: November 7, 2005, 8:03 pm - IP Logged

        Yea too bad I actually won more, and got closer with computerized DAY draws than night. LOL Nothing substantial though. Also A LOT more one digit miss teasers to keep me wanting to play.

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          Posted: November 8, 2005, 9:01 am - IP Logged

          Greg:

          I'm with you - except for the part about Delaware. I'm not saying you're wrong; only that I don't know enough about Delaware's lottery commission, their draw methods or their scandal history to be able to judge.

          I do know that the Hoosier Lottery uses methods similar to what you describe, except that their RNG software contains code meant to scan the database to find the number with the least amount of play.

          LosingJeff and I have spent the better part of three years gathering evidence against this crooked agency. We've met with Hoosier Lottery officials, state legislators, newspaper reporters, retailers, grand jury investigators, attorneys and countless others; we've chased down, procured and verified documents which supposedly didn't exist; we've read and copied our state gaming laws, searched the internet for related stories, written letters, made phone calls, traveled overnight for meetings and made enough copies to drive the price of Kinko's stock to record highs.

          Despite all these efforts, the Hoosier Lottery continues to operate, but every day brings us closer to our goals.

          Many people suspect their lottery is cheating them, but making blanket statements without some type of evidence to support your claims will only earn you the label of "conspiracy theorist," and you don't want that.

          If you suspect your state's lottery of wrongdoing, look into it. If you find something, look into it some more, and then keep looking until you find what you need to bring them down. 

          On the other hand, if you don't find anything to support your suspicions, it's probably because there's nothing to find, and that's okay, too. Actually, this is the result you're hoping for, because it indicates that your lottery games are being run honestly and fairly.

          Jeff and I use Delaware, South Carolina and other states with lesser populations to show the massive disparity in daily game payouts between those states and Indiana. This alone is compelling evidence that our suspicions have merit, although it's not conclusive by itself. That's why you need to keep looking. Once you have several hundred "coincidences" crammed into a file folder, other people will begin to see that what you say is true.

          Todd is notoriously skeptical about claims of crooked lotteries, but once he was made aware of the proof we have, even he agreed that our situation was dire. The evidence we have is so strong it simply cannot be denied, but it took a lot of effort to obtain that evidence.

          I'm reasonably certain you're correct about the coming winter (we had one last year, so I don't doubt it), but that doesn't really qualify as evidence of a crooked lottery. You should look a little deeper.

          Please understand that I'm not trying to discourage you, and I'm not discounting your suspicions. I'm only suggesting that you verify the true status of the games you play. If there's nothing to find, so be it; you can play with confidence and with the knowledge that you're playing a fair and honest game. You'll also be able to alleviate the suspicions of others who don't have the information you've taken the trouble to gather. Conversely, if you do find something to indicate your state lottery commission isn't playing by the rules, then you must commit to the search, and continue digging until you find the proof you need.

          Whatever you find, accept it. Should it turn out that you're wrong, that's okay - no harm, no foul; at least you'll know. If you do find evidence of wrongdoing, though, you'll have to accept that as well. But you'll save yourself, and others, a lot of money by refusing to play a game you know you can't win.   

          Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

          Jim

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            Posted: November 10, 2005, 3:02 pm - IP Logged

            computerized drawing must go

            "Life is like a box of chocolates...you can speculate on what you're going to get through trial and error"




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              Posted: November 10, 2005, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

              Six-too-One odds, in the States favor!

              No matter, how, or how much you play.

              Know that!

              "It's not easy, being, GREEN! "


               

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                Posted: November 11, 2005, 12:42 pm - IP Logged

                computerized drawings must go.......Skony  I Agree!


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                  Posted: November 12, 2005, 1:28 pm - IP Logged

                  I just signed it, thanks!  Type

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                    Posted: November 12, 2005, 9:53 pm - IP Logged

                    computerized drawing must go

                    i can say that it looks good that oklahoma started with balls.if north carolina starts with balls to this will be even better...

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                      Posted: November 18, 2005, 12:03 pm - IP Logged

                      I don't think that the people of NC would trust the computerized picks as much as they would the balls.If the lottery wants to get off to a good start,they will go with the tried and true.

                       

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                        Posted: November 18, 2005, 6:03 pm - IP Logged

                        I don't think that the people of NC would trust the computerized picks as much as they would the balls.If the lottery wants to get off to a good start,they will go with the tried and true.

                         

                        i hope your right.balls would be best.......

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                          Posted: November 21, 2005, 2:13 am - IP Logged

                          Computer suck.. Balls are the only way!!

                          Let your state know you dont trust there computers.. Lets see Federal law legislate BALLS ONLY!!!!

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                            Posted: November 21, 2005, 9:58 am - IP Logged

                            It's 'all', an illusion.

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                              Posted: November 23, 2005, 2:47 pm - IP Logged

                              We don't need a computer to pick random numbers. We as players should be able to watch the drawings live on TV and watch the balls roll down the shute. If it becomes a computerized game, I won't play any more, the odds are bad enough now. The fastest way to bring down something good is the hire poor management, just ask employee's at Delta, United, and GM.

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