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If someone can take the time to carefully compile a list of states and the specific games within them that are computerized, I will create a new page here at Lottery Post and I'll maintain it as well.

I personally just don't have the time to compile the list myself, especially the part about the individual games that are computerized, because it would involve checking out every single game among the hundreds out there.

Anyone have the ability to do this?





computerized states....missouri, california, kansas, delaware, oregon, minnesota, colorado, south dakota, idaho, louisiana, nebraska, indiana, arizona, washington, wisconsin

ball drawings....connecticut, florida, georgia, illinois, iowa, kentucky, maine, maryland, massachusetts, michigan, new hampshire, new jersey, new york,new mexico, north dakota, rhode island, ohio, south carolina, virginia, vermont, texas, tennessee, west virginia

anyone notice any errors feel free to correct me

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    i made these charts as a way to see where we stand right now as far as computerized and non computerized lotteries,as we speak some of the ball drawing lotteries are sneaking in computerized games like michigan.....

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      Mike,

      I added some spaces between the states, so that the lines would wrap and people wouldn't have to scroll the page to see all the states.  In the future when you're creating a comma-separated list, just add a space after each comma (like I did after "list, "). 

      That's a good list, but unfortuantely we need to put Michigan in the computerized column.  See today's news story.

       

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        Posted: May 13, 2005, 12:20 am - IP Logged

        thanks,thats bad about michigan though,now you have ball drawing states sneaking in computerized games,that way when they do go computerized they can try to use that as a valid excuse,these states are getting more sneaky about sliding in a computerized game.

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          I received this from Michigan lottery:

          Dear Molly,



          The random number generator is used for Fantasy 5, Keno and Winfall. Winfall ends on Saturday and the RNG will be used for Classic Lotto 47, which begins on Sunday.



          Thank you for the inquiry.



          Lottery PR Department

          Jimmysand posted on the Lottery Discussion about Mi using RNG's since Oct,2002. 

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            all i can say is that its sad when they use computers for half of the games in michigan and ball machines for the other half,gve it a little while longer and everything in michigan will be computerized.this is the new way they are doing it now......sneaking in computerized drawings when they still have ball drawings.

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              States that use RNG are no longer lotteries. Instead, they are devices to rig games and make sure the States bilk you for everything you got. There is nothing random about it. Why do you think they are doing it? So they can take in about 99 percent of everything you spend. RNG means no risk for the States. Personally, its just a matter of time till the people get  wise to this scam and quit playing.

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                Posted: May 20, 2005, 3:06 am - IP Logged

                Just look at Indiana. They boast of record sales, yet pay nothing out on their daily games. Kinda strange huh?

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                  Posted: May 20, 2005, 3:08 am - IP Logged

                  Can someone do a comparison today for Indiana and South Carolina daily games; I get tired of doing it to show this all the time.

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                    Posted: May 20, 2005, 10:17 am - IP Logged

                    I think most folks agree that the MegaMillions game is run by a quasi-secret organization. The met in secret and came up with the new odds. They haven't given any explanation that I've heard about.

                    I think I found the answer - the play slip.

                    All lotteries have playslips having 5 panels, to entice players to spend $5.

                    I don't know if other states use the same playslip, but in Texas there only room for 2 additional numbers in the main number panel. In order to make room for 4 numbers, a 7th line must be created. This takes space away from the Mega ball panel, thus the reduction to 46 numbers. 

                    Otherwise, the panels would have to be made smaller, which would make it harder for folks with poor vision to mark their numbers.

                    I haven't seen the new playslips. It will be interesting to see if they decided to make everything smaller.

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                      I think most folks agree that the MegaMillions game is run by a quasi-secret organization. The met in secret and came up with the new odds. They haven't given any explanation that I've heard about.

                      I think I found the answer - the play slip.

                      All lotteries have playslips having 5 panels, to entice players to spend $5.

                      I don't know if other states use the same playslip, but in Texas there only room for 2 additional numbers in the main number panel. In order to make room for 4 numbers, a 7th line must be created. This takes space away from the Mega ball panel, thus the reduction to 46 numbers. 

                      Otherwise, the panels would have to be made smaller, which would make it harder for folks with poor vision to mark their numbers.

                      I haven't seen the new playslips. It will be interesting to see if they decided to make everything smaller.



                      That's the first time I've heard that one.

                      I don't agree that there is anything malicious or suspicious (sorry for the rhyme) about changing the matrix.  They just want to create larger jackpots, while keeping the game so that people still feel like they will win something.

                      The reason for fewer Mega Balls is so that people will win lower-tier prizes.  It's that simple.

                      I'm not saying that I agree or disagree with their decision, but I don't question the integrity of the decision.  They did what they feel would generate more sales.

                      I think the play slip is the last thing on their mind when evaluating changes.

                       

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                        If someone can take the time to carefully compile a list of states and the specific games within them that are computerized, I will create a new page here at Lottery Post and I'll maintain it as well.

                        I personally just don't have the time to compile the list myself, especially the part about the individual games that are computerized, because it would involve checking out every single game among the hundreds out there.

                        Anyone have the ability to do this?





                        computerized states....missouri, california, kansas, delaware, oregon, minnesota, colorado, south dakota, idaho, louisiana, nebraska, indiana, arizona, washington, wisconsin

                        ball drawings....connecticut, florida, georgia, illinois, iowa, kentucky, maine, maryland, massachusetts, michigan, new hampshire, new jersey, new york,new mexico, north dakota, rhode island, ohio, south carolina, virginia, vermont, texas, tennessee, west virginia

                        anyone notice any errors feel free to correct me



                        does anyone notice that new mexico is the only lottery out west maybe besides texas that is ball oriented,every state out west is computerized.....that is where all the computerized stuff is originating is out west.....

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                          Hate to say it, but NM has gone to the rig-o-matic too.

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                            Posted: May 22, 2005, 7:10 pm - IP Logged

                            I really need to put together a page on this, describing each and every game that is computerized.  ("Games to Avoid").

                            I'll put it high on my to-do list.

                             

                            Check the State Lottery Report Card
                            What grade did your lottery earn?

                             

                            Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
                            Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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                              I really need to put together a page on this, describing each and every game that is computerized.  ("Games to Avoid").

                              I'll put it high on my to-do list.





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