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Sign the petition - eliminate computerized drawings!

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Posted: December 7, 2005, 4:15 pm - IP Logged

We don't need a computer to pick random numbers. We as players should be able to watch the drawings live on TV and watch the balls roll down the shute. If it becomes a computerized game, I won't play any more, the odds are bad enough now. The fastest way to bring down something good is the hire poor management, just ask employee's at Delta, United, and GM.

i agree,BUT as long as they can keep players playing and making revenue they are not gonna care if a few players get disgruntled because of having to play computerized drawings.i wish that more players would join the fight on this but at this time your average lottery player in any given state doesn't pay enough attention to these kind of details............

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    Posted: December 28, 2005, 11:27 am - IP Logged

    Is there a list of states that use computer drawings?

    Do either of the large multistate lotteries use them?

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      Posted: December 28, 2005, 4:30 pm - IP Logged

      Go to Results menu above, and select State Lottery Report Card.

       

      Check the State Lottery Report Card
      What grade did your lottery earn?

       

      Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
      Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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        Posted: January 1, 2006, 8:37 pm - IP Logged

        START a NATIONWIDE BOYCOTT of ALL Computerized Lotteries and watch it take off like a pack of lies from a corrupt administration-- political or otherwise!

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          Posted: January 1, 2006, 10:27 pm - IP Logged

          Lottomike is absolutely correct when he says the average person doesn't pay enough attention to the details.  And when they do pay attention and they ask questions (at least in Indiana) here is the answer they receive:

          Taken directly from the Hoosier Lottery's website under the "Ask George" section: 

          http://www.in.gov/hoosierlottery/promotions/askgeorge/askgeorge.asp

          "...the Hooseir Lottery has found that using a computerized random number generating machine increases the security and integrity of the drawing process.  The computer is actually a stand alone computerized number generating machine that spins numbers at a thousand digits a second.  All drawings are open to the public.  Every drawing is video taped and monitored by Hoosier Lottery Security and a representative from an independent auditing firm."

          Here's a serious question for Lottery Post members:

          How do we fight that? 

          Jim


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            Posted: January 2, 2006, 11:59 am - IP Logged

            The George of "Ask George" was initially our former lottery commissioner, George Weems. He was railroaded, in my opinion, into taking the fall for the "Sidewalks for Votes" scandal, which preceded our scratch-off ticket scandal by about ten weeks.

            While holding the commissioner's chair, Mr. Weems was appointed comptroller for the city of East Chicago, presumably by Mayor Pastrick (who had no authority to appoint a state official to a local post). Clearly, Mr. Weems was hopelessly unqualified for either position. If I remember correctly, his degree was in horticulture, or some similar discipline, so it's obvious he got the job by association.

            The "Sidewalks for Votes" scandal involved a group of Lake County contractors who would bid jobs for certain pillars of the community, such as the mayor, city officials, labor leaders and selected businessmen. These bids were for driveway resurfacing, new decks, sidewalk repair and other work which is normally prohibitively expensive for the average homeowner. Now, when the bids were received, only the ones from the participating contractors would be approved. When the work was finished, Mr. Weems was told to cut them a check drawn on the city's account.

            The South Bend Tribune broke the story, and there stood George Weems, holding the bag all by himself. About three weeks later, Mayor Pastrick's son was indicted for running his own lottery (numbers game), and Weems found himself in the middle of that mess, too.

            I haven't mentioned that George Weems was a 56-year-old black man, but I think it's relevant. Looking at the way these stories broke, and watching their progress as they developed, it was relatively easy to conclude that Mr. Weems was going to take the brunt of it. Not because he masterminded the scams, but because he was a lightning rod who was purposely installed in those key positions in case anything went wrong and someone was caught.

            Indiana's lottery, indeed our entire government, can be likened to organized crime. We have our Capo di tutti Capi (Mitch Daniels), our Caporegimes (house leaders), our lieutenants (state representatives) and our expendable soldiers (lower-ranking appointments such as George Weems). Our state agencies are plagued with scandal after scandal, and the supply seems inexhaustible. Somehow, though, it always winds up that some hourly employee or lower-ranking appointed official is solely responsible.

            If our government representatives were as adept at solving problems as they are at avoiding them, this state would be a much better place to live. As it stands, Indiana's not even a nice place to visit. 

            Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

            Jim

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              Posted: January 2, 2006, 12:17 pm - IP Logged

              And the new George is none other than Indiana basketball legend and current radio talk show host George McGinnis.  Obviously someone with a higher profile and presumably more credibility.

              Jim 


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                Posted: January 2, 2006, 9:34 pm - IP Logged

                what hurts me the most is when all of this happens and our citizens are utterly powerless to stop it all.especially when we know whats going on but can't do anything which is whats happening with the indiana lottery.......

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                  Posted: January 3, 2006, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

                   

                  Totally, totally support this, Todd!! Thanks for informing us!!!

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                      Todd, I support this thread and already signed the petition. However, my family and I never play any computerized drawings. In fact, the only games my family and I would play are Mega Millions and California Super Lotto Plus where I currently living [CA]. I like the ball security drawings instead of computerized security drawings is another factor. Lets eliminate computerized drawings!

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                        Posted: January 16, 2006, 6:53 am - IP Logged

                        i think that the indiana lottery is the textbook example for all thats wrong with computerized drawings in america today.just this one state on its own could represent everything you DON'T want in a state lottery.i don't know the true history of the first computerized states and why they all started going the computerized route but that is the beginning of when things started going really wrong with state lotteries.it seems like it started a domino effect though.the missouri lottery use to be my favorite lottery until they started computerized drawings about a year and a half ago.it seems like an average of a couple states a year are going computerized.that is very scary indeed.all to save a few measly dollars and all that does is have the oposite effect because less players spend money and confidence is lost in the games.this past year even the texas lottery was looking into going computerized.i doubt if tennessee will go computerized since we have rebecca paul formerly of the georgia lottery but if she leaves i think i would probably be a little concerned.the big question now is will north carolina be ball drawn or computerized?

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                          Posted: January 20, 2006, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

                          People should never play computerized numbers, thats why when I go to the casinos, I never play the slot machines. I support a 100%. Wink

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                            People should never play computerized numbers, thats why when I go to the casinos, I never play the slot machines. I support a 100%. Wink

                            slot machines have NOTHING whatsoever to do with a computerized lottery drawing,you say you support a 100%...what is a?

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                              Posted: January 22, 2006, 10:39 am - IP Logged

                              signed

                              JR

                                 
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