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Posted: February 27, 2012, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

I think this is a problem with the whole issue of funding via the lottery.  Instead of being a straightforward issue about the funding itself, it becomes a victim of the education issue.  That, of course, allows state's time and space to continue their practices of robbing lottery accounts earmarked for schools and using it payoff general revenues. 

Schools don't fail, students do.  More and more fail due to lack of supplies, etc.  Someone mentioned teaching trades, well, schools used to do that.  And it worked, especially in places where trades unions recruited grads from tech schools to serve apprenticships in various trades.  Today, schools are broke, and cannot fund things like shop, drafting, etc.  Plus, many jobs are now in states where there are no unions, and no established proceedures for training. 

Using lottery funds for schools doesn't work when those funds are used in lieu of taxes.  If you don't want to pay taxes then schools suffer.  Lottery funds are better used for special projects the require funding on a short term basis.  Using them for schools is irresponsible.

A well known political party has made political points since 1981 by telling Americans they don't have to support government or pay taxes.  It's worked for them politically, but as a result the country is in shambles.  Lottery funds are not going to save anything: they are temporary tricks to make people think they work.  And we buy it.  That's the problem.

Right now that well known political party is hard at work reducing government to paupers who have to beg for handouts.  Soon enough, only the rich people will have any money, the rest of us will get what the leave.  Which isn't much.  What has happened to our schools will, very soon, happen to us.

And all because they are intent on making the rich even richer.  Are we better off today because of lower taxes?  I don't think so. 

Finally, as a college grad I have to disagree with the folks who blast college as worthless.  I went through college on the GI Bill, working and loans.  College has helped in my job and career.  Not all students can, or want to do that.  And they need something to study for in high school.  But, with so few jobs, and good paying ones, left you wonder what good technical training will do.  Today, the jobs are in technical areas, IT, etc.  Most trades are now non-union, and are done more and more my recent immigrants from central and South America who are not union, make less money and have no benefits.  Perfect for business owners, who can use deportation to keep them in line.  Low wage workers undercut people in other things, like manufactoring.  That's the real problem, and, again, the major political party has worked hard to allow those low wage folks into the country and then working to break trades unions (for example, Indiana just became a Right To Work state, done by that major political party).  Their goal is to break unions right to organize and, more importantly, overturning the Wagner Act which allowed workers to organize.  The lottery is just part of their plan.

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    Posted: February 28, 2012, 12:00 am - IP Logged

    I think this is a problem with the whole issue of funding via the lottery.  Instead of being a straightforward issue about the funding itself, it becomes a victim of the education issue.  That, of course, allows state's time and space to continue their practices of robbing lottery accounts earmarked for schools and using it payoff general revenues. 

    Schools don't fail, students do.  More and more fail due to lack of supplies, etc.  Someone mentioned teaching trades, well, schools used to do that.  And it worked, especially in places where trades unions recruited grads from tech schools to serve apprenticships in various trades.  Today, schools are broke, and cannot fund things like shop, drafting, etc.  Plus, many jobs are now in states where there are no unions, and no established proceedures for training. 

    Using lottery funds for schools doesn't work when those funds are used in lieu of taxes.  If you don't want to pay taxes then schools suffer.  Lottery funds are better used for special projects the require funding on a short term basis.  Using them for schools is irresponsible.

    A well known political party has made political points since 1981 by telling Americans they don't have to support government or pay taxes.  It's worked for them politically, but as a result the country is in shambles.  Lottery funds are not going to save anything: they are temporary tricks to make people think they work.  And we buy it.  That's the problem.

    Right now that well known political party is hard at work reducing government to paupers who have to beg for handouts.  Soon enough, only the rich people will have any money, the rest of us will get what the leave.  Which isn't much.  What has happened to our schools will, very soon, happen to us.

    And all because they are intent on making the rich even richer.  Are we better off today because of lower taxes?  I don't think so. 

    Finally, as a college grad I have to disagree with the folks who blast college as worthless.  I went through college on the GI Bill, working and loans.  College has helped in my job and career.  Not all students can, or want to do that.  And they need something to study for in high school.  But, with so few jobs, and good paying ones, left you wonder what good technical training will do.  Today, the jobs are in technical areas, IT, etc.  Most trades are now non-union, and are done more and more my recent immigrants from central and South America who are not union, make less money and have no benefits.  Perfect for business owners, who can use deportation to keep them in line.  Low wage workers undercut people in other things, like manufactoring.  That's the real problem, and, again, the major political party has worked hard to allow those low wage folks into the country and then working to break trades unions (for example, Indiana just became a Right To Work state, done by that major political party).  Their goal is to break unions right to organize and, more importantly, overturning the Wagner Act which allowed workers to organize.  The lottery is just part of their plan.

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