Waiting for chapter 2 !!

Bail seems to be set excessively high: Was it set high because they knew his girlfriend was a Jackpot Winner?

Small world, I knew a guy that wanted to win power-ball so he could buy his brothers freedom.

He told me he could buy off a few people and talked like it would be easy, his brother was serving

life for murder.   Why would her bo need to sell drugs if she had 88 million, the drug trade must

pay very well or it could be a setup

RL

I felt angry and sick to my stomach when I read that Marie Holmes spent $9m on bail for her boyfriend! There will be more legal fees to come on his upcoming trial.  She is down to $70 something Million. I found myself thinking how much I had wished that anyone else would have won instead of her!

It was reported that she still lives in a trailer! At the rate she is going, she  may as well as stay there! She will likely end up broke in several years.

I can't help but wonder why on earth would she and her boyfriend be in any way (directly or indirectly), involved in a life of crime, when she has all that money! One would have thought that both would have retired from any such activities (if involved in).

I wish that Marie Holmes would have done right by her kids and dumped her boyfriend a long time ago. I don't care if he is the father of any or all of her children. It doesn't sound like a good environment for children to grow up in. She could allow supervised visitation to his child(ren), if they have any together.                   

Just imagine how many people could have benefited from that $9Million if she had donated it to the Salvation Army instead!

Some day I think Marie Holmes is going to wake up broke and filled with bitter, deep regret on the money that she spent on her current boyfriend.  I am talking about a day in the future, long after they have broken up and she is getting ready to go to work at McDonald's.

I hope that she will wise up real fast and make some drastic changes in her life so that doesn't happen. However, if what appears to me to be where she is heading, I at least hope she doesn't dare claim to be a victim of "The Lottery Curse!"

Well, I've given my two cents.  I am fully aware that how Ms Holmes spends her money is none of my business.  I am merely commenting on an article that has been posted.

I think it was. Bail on people who have been charged with murder is far less.

Of course they knew she was the lottery winner when they set bail! Why do you think it was set so high?

Ms Holmes paid it the first time and they knew she would pay it again.  The Brunswick county officials are no dummies!

She didn't have to (I and don't think should have) pay his bail!

Fsad story, a fool and his money are soon parted.

I hope she wakes up one day and realizes beore it is too late, tat it is time to make changes to her lifestyle and her spending habits.  Of course, we only know the sensationalistic headlines.  She may habe planned ahead for her chilpdren....

On April 2016, she will owe the federal government the balance of her taxes. She better be careful on how she spends her money as on the surface she doesn't appear to have any intelligence or common sense.

The attorneys defending her boyfriend are already salivating at the potential windfall coming their way.

Ahh the loser that screwed us all out of a big jackpot is back in the news again.

What an idiot, I hope she ends up worse off than David Lee Edwards.

Bail bondsmen and the government make so much $$$ off of dumb criminals.  If you're a criminal and you get caught it's really in your best interest to just STAY IN JAIL.  When you stay in jail you're basically giving the middle finger to bail bondsmen and the government by not giving them a dime.  These idiots don't realize that the government and bail bondsmen are greedy crooks.  Giving money to greedy crooks just makes you poor.

I agree.

She should have left the area and relocated to a safe neighborhood for the sake of her children. Staying in a trailer on account of her boyfriend is just another example of the lack of judgement.

if she doesn't wise up this fairy tale of rags to riches will not end well.

Exactly, more greedy crooks who are looking to take advantage of her.

They know she is a lottery winner, so instead of charging $500 an hour for attorney's fees, they'll hit her up at $5,000 an hour I guarantee.

She might as well just start flushing stacks of $100 bills down the toilet, the money would end up going to a better place LOL.

This is so sad and depressing. Marie has so much money that she could get her and all her children out of this lifestyle and move. She has the chance to give her children a nice, safe life but nope she continues to hang out with shady people who are obviously leaching off of her. I feel sorry for those kids. I hope she at least put some money away for them for their future but I doubt that.

Bail money is not a fine or fee. It is usually returned when the accused doesn't flee.

Marie needs to wisen up and realize that her past life needs to go if she wants to have any money left for the future. I'm sure the government and lawyers wouldn't mind taking a big chunk of that money from her and she's making it too easy for them. The media is also loving it.

She won and you didn't--get over it.  She isn't the first lottery winner to do dumb things and won't be the last.  I am disappointed that she bailed him out the second time.  He knew what his curfew was and broke it.  He was caught with 8000 bags of heroin that's why his bail/bond was so high--but she says he's not a drug dealer.  She's not too bright.  He is going to end up in prison anyway and she can't bail him out of that.

Yeah she won & I didn't, but I play harder I guarantee & I don't use cheats like she obviously did.

Anybody here deserved to win more than this piece of $hit.

You really think she cheated by buying some quick picks?    Enjoy your day, JJ.

Oh for gods sake, lotteries are NOT GAMES OF SKILL!!!!

Why would her bo need to sell drugs if she had 88 million,

Some people just like the lifestyle.  They like the thrill of associating with thugs, feeling powerful and in charge, and feeling like they are outsmarting the law.  Remember Aaron Hernandez?  He certainly didn't need drug money.  He was wealthy until the lifestyle he loved got him tossed into prison.

Ms Holmes is Right. It's her money and she can do what she wants with it. Whether she succeeds or fails in her choices,  she is the one who has to live with the consequences.

He was already in jail facing serious charges and the bail set before she won the lottery.  He's part of a large heroin trafficking ring.  It was more than reasonable to set bail at 3 million and double the bail when he violated. She may get 6 million back, tho I bet he will run, forfeiting her 6 million, with her blessing. 

Marie shd consider the fact that she and her children are sitting ducks. Any criminal could decide to kidnap her or her kids for ransom which does not guarantee safe return. If she were smart, and she is not, she would sever all ties with this guy and his associates and get out of Dodge...

 Love is blind.  When a person is in love he or she does irrational things. Such as what Marie Holmes is doing. 

 When I win big then I will be looked at by the world.  The same people who are judging Ms. Holmes will judge me.

 I do not expect to make major mistakes but sometimes irrational thoughts will occur in lottery winners. The change of lifestyle will be a culture shock.

 Now is the time to write down my plans on what I will do when I win. I will be to emotional when it happens.

Not many of you all know the laws in NC. If you are out on bond for a charge and get arrested or charged again while you are out on bond, then your previous bond will be doubled. It had nothing to do with who she was. Get over yourselves, it had nothing to do with her winning the lottery. The first bond was set so high due to him trafficking heroin. The second bond of $6,000,000 was because he was out on bond for his first string of charges.

 the 2nd chapter has been half written near as I can figure

its obvious she has very little intention of changing her ways and as I've previously stated : 

"she'll be broke in 3 and 1/2 years"

I reckon that by either the end of 2016 or possibly the start of 2017 we'll be reading 1 of 2-3 stories about her

but $2 says we'll more then likely be reading about the final chapter of her sad tale of rags to riches and back to

ye olde rag pile life with her complaining about how even the " " charities are laughing in her face and denying any claims and her kids in foster care

It's just a drop in the ocean for her right now, but she better not do it too often.

Music... i believe the difference between Marie and the rest of the folks on here is that we learn from lottery history idiots(i.e.Jack Whittaker/others) and she has absolutely no desire to learn or listen. Honestly, what rational person bails a person out a 2nd time for actions taken that was an intentional probation violation, all stemming from the first incident ??
Oh I get the fact it's her money........it's just sad, that part of a financial windfall is being flushed down the toilet, when everyone on this site knows what phenomenal things each one of us could do to help others.

 Probably all of us on LP has one time or another has vividly imagined what we would do with $80 Million+ in our bank accounts. Unfortunately, it leaves a bad taste when this kind of stupidity is so prevalent.

Wouldn't it be nice if we COULD fix stupid ?   

No matter what type of person she is, the bottom line is that the government will find a way to get a piece of the pie. I think $9 million is ridiculous!! It's always about the money!!

Yep, that's how bail bondsmen make their money. They collect ten percent of the bail up front from the defendant, post a bond to the court for the whole bail amount, and assume responsibility for making sure the defendant shows up for trial. So Marie actually saved $600,000 by posting her boyfriend's bail herself with no bail bondsman in between. Of course, she also could have saved herself a lot of time and trouble by just dumping this loser, but that's a different conversation.

And if it is as jmw8138 says, and "Hot Sauce" is still out on bail for the original $3 million, I am fairly certain that his girlfriend gets her $9 million total back when he shows up for trial, assuming that the prosecutors combine both sets of charges into one case. Yes, the government side will hem and haw, and stall for as long as possible so they can squeeze some extra interest money out of that $9 million, but eventually they will have to give it back.

The comment by maringoman above about her boyfriend's lawyers above are also spot-on. Depending on how unscrupulous his lawyers are, they could drag this thing out into one long and expensive ordeal by selling her a (crack) pipe dream about how they can get "Hot Sauce" off, scott-free.

I'm just going to go ahead & say it right now: I'm afraid she's going to end up with Dave Edwards & Jack Whitaker as a complete lotto loser.  I hope not, but she's already spending gazillions of dollars to bail out a drug dealing loser; god knows what she'll spend her money on next...

Such a sad tale.  Its certainly her story.  It will play out accordingly.  There will be those who see and speak judgementally concerning her.  There will be others who will pray for her (Im in that circle). But the train wreck is playing out in front of the public, its not if it will wreck, its only when will it completely wreck. Guns in the home around kids, felons in the home around the kids, in and out of jail in front of the kids, and $9 million on bail instances is incredibly ridiculous. I hope the kids come out of the wreck safe and in a positive way.  We all believe we would be more responsible with the money, time and chance hopefully will give some of us on here the opportunity. I have had a written 40 page plan for 10 years, just waiting for my turn.

Assuming this guy actually shows up to court and doesn't leave her holding a $9 million bag, and assuming he is convicted (guilty until proven innocent, I know, but) ... she probably ends up paying protection money for Hot Sauce to the families of prison gangs.

She is very lucky, that her State, is not one of the States, that force you to forfeit your bond, if you violate any conditions set forth in the bond. So she wins again albeit in a kind of ridiculous way.

and this is your business because...?

If she is involved with drug dealers, chances are that she is not doing this out of love. Fear, threats and psychological intimidation are some of the  weapons employed very effectively by drug dealers. She is scared $hitless. When people are scared, they do some strange stupid stuff.

Threats, fear and intimidation can do funny things to the human mind.

There is a reason that poor and/or dysfunctional people tend to stay poor and/or dysfunctional.

I have a sibling who since we were kids just can't refrain from buying stupid stuff. Has a great job but still no money. If you gave them a billion dollars they would be broke in less than a decade. If I ever win the lottery I will be like that person in the poll posted earlier, my sibling won't see a dime.

I also have a friend, she dated this abusive guy and no matter how many times I told her to break up with him she couldn't do it. One day she learned the hard way when he tried to kidnap her at gunpoint. I expressed concern at the time and during her rocky relationship, I even told her that the way she was going she was going to end up with kids by half a dozen guys or dead in the grave before age 30. Lo and behold today (years later) she has kids with different men, no money, STDs, and more problems than anyone I know. Some people just won't change and really they are victim of nothing more than their own stupidity and poor decisions. You can blame the people they interact with or circumstances they were born into, but at the end of the day, they are the ones who choose their path.

According to the news reports I read, a bondsman bailed him out.  We don't know for sure, but I'd be willing to bet that Ms. Holmes secured the services of that bond agency.   A N. Carolina bondsman can charge up to 20% of the bond amount, which in these two amounts in total would be $1.8 million.  She won't get that money back, that's the bond agency fee, just like a pawn shop or a bank charges interest on the use of their money.  Bonding is a little different than a bank, which normally requires some sort of collateral worth more than the loan amt. (unless it's a signature loan) and a pawn shop requires an item be left with them which can be sold for more than the amount loaned on it if the money + interest isn't paid back by a certain time, usually 90 days.   The only security for a bond is the fee charged and that's why there's a need for bounty hunters. 

(BTW, I "know" Duane Chapman, aka "Dog the Bounty Hunter";  I used to play Foosball and pool with him at a grungy little bar when I lived in Pampa, TX. during the mid-70's, but I doubt he'd remember me now after so many years.   I also knew several of the people charged along with him for the murder for which he was convicted and went to prison.  In their TV show, Chapman and his family did some bounty hunting for other agencies, but it was mostly their own bond jumpers they were after.  They were liable to lose tens of thousands of dollars if the suspect didn't show up for court.  If you're interested, here's an article from several years ago on the Amarillo Globe-News website: Dogged by the law in Pampa.)

As far as the bond(s) set being excessive amounts, the 8th Amendment does prohibit that, but it, like many of our other rights, such as free speech and gun ownership, can and have been interpreted in various ways throughout our history by the higher courts.  The judge who set the bond weighed the flight risk of the suspect, his priors, the severity of the charges and testimony from law enforcement about the crimes being charged and the evidence gathered and obviously felt there was a need for such a large bail in order to ensure Ms. Holme's b/f would show up for his trial.  The accused has also been fitted with a monitoring device.

That is quite true. I think she needs to read J.J. Luna's book "How to be Invisible," get away from where she's living, then drop off the radar so she can take care of her children and live her life in peace.

What Mike said.  Plus I think most judges also consider how likely the person is to commit another serious crime while he's out on bail.  Since this guy is a career criminal, the judge may have decided he's a high risk to do something to cause grave harm while he's awaiting his trial.

delS you wrote: " I have had a written 40 page plan for 10 years, just waiting for my turn."

I read this earlier today. Anyway, I was driving down the highway a little while ago and this popped into my head.

I am intrigued delS. Would you mind sharing on this post some of what is in your 40 page plan? I have what I thought was a well thought out plan should I win the lottery jackpot.  However, I think I would struggle to fill one typed page! LOL!

You must be a very detail oriented person?

Thank you for setting me straight on two facts: (1) She went through a bail bondsman, and (2) he is allowed to charge her up to 20%.

On the one hand, you might think that Marie is "only" committing herself to the $1.8 million, set against the $9 million she could have lost had she posted bail without a bondsman if Hot Sauce flies the coop.

On the other hand, if Hot Sauce does disappear, does the bail bondsman firm have any recourse against Marie, or are they stuck trying to find and bring back Hot Sauce themselves?

I'm guessing that the bail bondsman is on the hook for the other $7.2 million; that's what Marie was buying when she put up the non-refundable $1.8 million of her own. The monitoring device is some help, I guess, but how hard can it be to remove one of those things if you really want to?

He was selling BEFORE she won.

It wasn't my intent to "set you straight";  I was just going by what I had read...and you know what they say about believing everything you read.   She's spent that $1.8 million* already and won't get that back.

*What I don't know is if the original bond was "rolled over" into the new one.  Whether that's the case or not, I'm thinking that the bail agency probably didn't have to pay out the original 3 million dollar bond but of course kept the fee.  I don't know if breaking the terms of his bond was enough for them to have to forfeit the full amount of the first bond.   I also don't know if it was the same agency that put up both bonds.  If he flees, I'm sure the agency will be out the six million dollars in cash or property they put up for the 2nd bond, less the $1.2 million fee.** (I know a bondsman here in town and he often puts up properties he owns instead of cash.)

**Also, N.C. law says "up to" 20%, so they might have not charged that much but I doubt they gave a discount...would you?  I wouldn't.

I think most of those "ankle bracelets" have a tampering mechanism built into them;  if they're cut off, an alarm sounds at the monitoring station.  I dunno.  I expect he has to make regularly scheduled visits to the sheriff's office so they can inspect it and he has to get permission whenever he needs to go outside the range of the base station at the house.  (to go to church, his charity work at the Salvation Army, to volunteer at the soup kitchen, things like that. -snicker-)

I don't think Ms. Holmes would suffer any recrimination or financial burden if her b/f skipped town. (unless she was found guilty of helping him flee) The bail agency is the one exposed to all the risk, that's why they charge so much for a bond.

Earlier in the thread JJ was talking about the bail bondsmen and govt. being "greedy crooks".  While I wouldn't agree with that as a blanket statement, I was reminded of something that happened when I worked on drilling rigs.

I was off work, injured and went into the hospital for surgery.  In the meantime, the guys I worked with were heading to work one morning and were stopped for going a little too fast in a residential section.   The officer smelled pot (they were smoking) and searched the vehicle.  One of the guys was on probation and had some weed, but his little brother (my replacement) took it so his brother wouldn't have to go to jail.  The cop found some roaches (what's left of a joint, for anyone who doesn't know) in the ashtray, so they charged the driller/owner of the vehicle with possession as well.

The little brother plead guilty to possession and got a fairly hefty fine, but the driller talked to a lawyer and was told he thought he could get the charges dropped...for eight hundred bucks.  The driller thought that wasn't a bad deal, less than the little brother had to pay,  so he forked over the money.  The lawyer took it, counted out half of it and stuck it in his pocket and told him "Be right back."  He watched as the lawyer walked to the courthouse right across the street and in ten minutes he came back.  "The D.A. dropped the charges." the lawyer informed the driller. "He said since you used the vehicle as a way to get back and forth to work, transporting the hands, it could be classified as a 'public conveyance' and that the roaches/pot could have belonged to anyone."   I suspect the lawyer got a new rudder for his sailboat and the D.A. got that hot tub he and the missus were wanting. (or whatever, just an example, but you get the drift)

Full throttle HoodRat!!

Everybody knows what happens when HoodRats get a lot of money,

these hoodrats treat their winnings like loans rather than an investment.

All that money & STILL subjecting her kids to ratchetness, as unfit as it gets smh...

Yep, he had been in jail for several months before she won.  I had a Notepad document with the timeline of all the events, but guess I deleted it.  I remember she announced she was the winner just a short while after the drawing and a bondsman bailed him out within a day or two after she claimed.  I don't know for sure, but I bet she knew exactly what her first major purchase was going to be:  his freedom.   People in here are saying it's her money, she can do w/ it as she likes and that's true, but I think she should have bought plane tickets for her and her kids and found a new home far, far way from her live-in human stain.

I read the headline to the story and was reading the posts and am a little confused. Did she win 88 million or 188 million?

Oh now I know, I read the story. 88 Mil in a lump sum

Understood about your intent, but I still thank you. I personally have a "zero tolerance" policy toward those who stubbornly refuse to change their positions in the face of clear and contradictory evidence ... and I try to not be a hypocrite about that myself.

Back on topic, I was going down the road of "Wow, Marie Holmes must really trust this guy to put up his whole bail herself, but if she's sure he won't stiff her by taking off, that's one way to save the (maximum) 20% bail bond fee." Assuming the 20%/$9Mil figures are correct, though, it appears that she loves him to the tune of $1.8 Million, but doesn't trust him to the tune of $9 Million. I suppose that qualifies as showing at least a little wisdom on her part.

About the corruption thing: it would not surprise me if some dirty cops received some dirty consideration in some dirty districts from some dirty bondsmen for making dirty arrests under dubious circumstances. For example, it's a close call whether or not someone is committing some minor, but not publicly dangerous transgression of the law, but the subject in question looks like he or she can afford to pay the bond fee, so ...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3196697/Single-mother-188million-Powerball-winner-vowed-spend-money-kids-spends-9million-bail-drug-trafficking-fiance-jail-TWICE.html

She is proving you to be right again. I wonder what happened to those two guys in dark suits, who were supposed to be her financial advisors?.

"I wonder what happened to those two guys in dark suits, who were supposed to be her financial advisors?"

They probably dropped her when they realized she would likely sue them for bad advice (regardless if given or not) once she spends all her money

Remember, she still owes UNCLE SAM, approx. 14% of that $88M in april 2016. This is getting interesting.

There may be a good chance we're waiting for chapter 7.

and the wheels on the bus go round and round

Well said Thatscarychick, I hope she puts her kids first.

I think many here are being a bit hard on her.  It's her money and rather she looses it or not

is really none of our business.  She needs help and condemning her won't fix anything.  She

might be a very nice person and money may not be her everything. 

RL

Please dump the leaches and GET OUT OF N.C.!!! OMG!!!

The $88 million she received was actually the initial after tax amount. The cash value was $127 million so she has an even larger burden when tax time arrives in April.

Now thats a special kinda stupid .

I love ? it

keep spending you won and its your money

from nelljopark

that's the good thing about American

do what you like spent what like

that's american

No problem Candy Lane.  I have things like:

3 names, addresses of attorneys

3 names and addresses of accountants

6 wealth management firms in my area, with Senior level people their email addresses, etc.

Plans with strategies, activities

I have a plan for my children with trust details

I have a plan for extended family and friends

I have a plan for my philanthropic activities

I have a plan for 3 businesses

I have a list of homes I will purchase, I update frequently. 

The money I give to most charities and family members will be done anonymously. 

Thats most of the areas.  And, Im not a detailed person.  But I would never want to squander such a blessing on frivolous over the top items. I want to make a difference, live well, and take care of family.

This topic seems a bit anti-lotto and could become a poster child for reasons to close down lotteries.  Maybe someday

all lottery winners will get a new brain along with the winnings.  Just being sarcastic.

RL

Thanks DelS!  You sound like you really got it together! : )

Marie i wish you well, but if i were you i would at least not marry this guy. The drama will get worse if she marry him. She only paid a small  portion of the nine million.

"She only paid a small portion of the nine million."  Well, that's like saying "I only had a small portion of the buffet.", but when you eat 20% of the entire buffet, the percentage is relative. $1.8 might "only" be 20% of the nine million, but it's still a large sum. (to quote RCB, it would be "life changing" for most of us in here)  It bothers me thinking of what she could have done with it - funded her church's expenses for 25 yrs, sent one of her children to Harvard or Yale (or all of them to just about any good state college), bought a nice home...any number of things that were much better investments than bailing her P.O.S. b/f out of jail.  (and yes, her b/f is a P.O.S.  If anyone defends him or what he's done, they're a P.O.S. themselves)

I don't think there are many in here that are arguing Ms. Holmes can't spend the money how she likes, but it's like buying a $25 cigar; some people will criticize the purchase, some saying it's a filthy habit and others will say that's a lot to spend on something that won't last much longer than 30 minutes while others will say they could have bought three good cigars for that amount.  I liken what Ms. Holmes has done to lighting that 25 dollar cigar with a hundred dollar bill...she got pleasure out of the cigar, but that hundred bucks is gone forever and for absolutely nothing.

Wow so true Amen??????

Well all she has to do when she blows this jackpot is just win another and another lol.  A winner can't lose ever, it's not possible.

Mike...Interesting posting on the bail...my question out of this $9 Million @ 10-20%( $900K-1.8 Mil), after he violated the  first posting($3 Million @ 10-20%=$300-600K), does the person who posted the first amount lose it completely ?

her cheapest and easiest plan would have been to not post bail and move on. its not like he was coming up with $3 mill. himself, or anyone else would be posting it.

I don't know, I haven't found anything about that. From what I've read, it certain seems as though the first bond could have been forfeited.

I have a hunch it wasn't, because if it were, would that same bond agency -or another - bail him out of jail the second time on the chance of losing 6 million bucks?  I doubt it.  (then again, with the chance to make 1.2 million plus he's being made to wear a GPS tracker, they might think it's worth risking)  I've read a lot of comments by people claiming to know the original bond was forfeited, but they're just like posts in here, nothing but conjecture (including my own)...and I'm beginning to doubt the veracity of what I've read from news outlets (like this very article from the NY Daily News) which are insinuating Ms. Holmes "spent $9M bailing out convict fiancé" when local news say a bondsman was used.

For lottery jackpot wins, does the winner pay the federal and state taxes up front?  Does the lottery simply give them the after tax payout and give the federal government their tax payment and the state government their tax amount?  I remember when Richard Hatch won the first season of Survivor in 2000, and he kept the $1 million and went to jail for not paying the federal taxes.

Stories such as these remind me why lottery winners should only play in states where they can remain anonymous.

From the Tax Foundation.org March '12 article in reference to the MM JP being a record 540 million :   Lottery Tax Rates Vary Greatly By State

While lottery winnings of $600 or less are not reported to the IRS, winnings in excess of $5,000 are subject to a 25 percent federal withholding tax. In other words, if one person wins the jackpot and chooses the $389 million lump sum payment, $97 million will go straight to the IRS. Next April, the jackpot winner or winners can see if any of that amount gets refunded, or if they owe even more.

There are also state taxes, if applicable, but you'd have to check w/ your state agency to find out their policy.

N. Carolina isn't one of those with anonymous claiming, but Ms. Holmes chose to give a news conference and television and newspaper interviews when she didn't have to do so.

Anonymity isn't the panacea a lot of people think it is, since a lottery winner is more likely to be killed by a family member or friend than a total stranger.

It's funny that the person posted she won all this money and still lives in a trailer. It's funny because it's untrue and they showed her house on television and if you do simple research you will see she paid barely $400,000 for the house. It's a brand new, but very humble, average looking house. She did not splurge on fancy mansions like most of us would.

I agree that this was a dumb move to bail someone out $9M, but if it were one of your loved ones and you had the money I'm sure some of you would too.  I know people who put up their homes and retirement money to bail out their spouse, children, parents and friends all the time. It's her money and she can do what she pleases, plus she'll get most of the money back when he goes back to court. 

Boyfriend is pretty dumb to still be dealing drugs when they have more than enough money to never have to ' hustle'  again. Hopefully this is a wake up call for her and she dumps him and get her life together before the government takes all her money.

I wish her the best and hope that she ask GOD for guidance with her new windfall. I'm not going to judge her situation, but I know after the first bail, they'd be on their own for getting out next time regardless of the cost.

From what I read, the second bust, the one where Ms. Holmes was charged w/ possession of pot, was on Boverie Street Shallott, N.C.  Google Street view didn't have any views of the homes on that street because - IMHO- it was in a gated community.



Now, I'm not a realtor by any means, but again, IMHO, those homes looked like (from an aerial view) to be closer in price to a million (or more) than a half-million.

And yes, I would probably bail a loved one out of jail for a lot of offenses, but being in possession of thousands of baggies of heroin isn't one of them.

If the bond was automatically forfeited when somebody violates the terms of their bail why would bounty hunters exist? Sure, if somebody cost you thousands or even millions of dollars you might want a chance to have a discussion with them, but why would you waste your time and money finding them and then spend even more to bring them back to the police? If somebody skips bail you have the possibility of finding them and turning them over to the police. If your client gets caught smoking a joint, turning tricks again, or whatever, you can't unring that bell. What kind of sane business person would risk losing thousands of dollars, let alone millions, on that bet?

Then there's the fact that this guy was released on bail again. In theory any violation can result in being remanded until trial, but in this case (and it's apparently SOP in NC) they turned him loose once he posted twice as much as he did the first time around.

Not sure why you're taking me to task b/c I never said "automatically".   There's a procedure to bail forfeiture and it doesn't always "automatically" happen even after a bond is revoked...which is what happened when he was busted for pot and possession of a handgun, hence the second bond. (and N.C. allows a doubling of the bond in cases like this) The second bond wasn't for the offenses while out on the original bond, but because of what he did while out on bond.

Bounty hunters go after people who skipped out on their bond, i.e. failed to show up at court as they promised to do and guaranteed when they or the bail bondsman posted the bond.  It varies from state-to-state (and probably from judge-to-judge), but courts usually allow a time limit for the accused to be located after missing their scheduled court appearance.   The courts are usually fairly lenient on that b/c they have neither the time nor resources to track down bail jumpers.  From what I've read, the bond can still be subject to forfeit even if the accused is brought back.

I agree with every single words you said Candy Lane.  There's a reason this woman won so much money because trust me everything happens for a reason. She's really dumb thinking this guy is the love of her life. This is blind love which is not true love. For those who said why is her boyfriend getting in trouble when she got all that money, it's her money but don't worried, bet if they married and she have no pre-nupt he'll turn right around and dump her for another chick and sued her for half the millions whatever is left. She got blasted on FB, but just wait till the next chapter come in her life, her man will be in jail again, and they will give him a bigger bail.  If it keep up whether she married him or not, she'll be on welfare again. I cannot believed she actually said her man doesn't do drug or sell it and that's what he got busted for. If I was her,  I would hire a private investigator to follow him anonymously just to see where he go and what he do and with whom. She better take her money and get the heck out of dodge  and change her last name(kids too)  so he can't track her down ever.That man is BAD NEWS.

You can take the rat out of the hood...but you can't take the hood out of the rat.  No matter how much money this woman wins in her life...she will NEVER turn it around.  FACT

1st bail costed her $3 Mil...now the 2nd costed her $6 Mil...either she is stupid with math or she is has been seriously misguided.

When is she gonna learn ??  Oh...and by the way...you can tell she is a greedy SOB because not one good thing has been made out of what she has done for her own children.  FACT

I am sorry to say this but this story is not going to end up on the good side. This is going to go very bad for her and her family and in the end it will destroy many other people's lives. This was not a responsible winner and unfortunately it is her life lesson to be learned. This is another Jack Whittaker and Abraham Shakespeare story that will not have a good ending.

You are right Mike in Texas ,in my hometown of Sc lottery winner solomon jackson  that won $259.9 million dollars   in 2009 choose to go public and sc has the option of anonymity .He has been very active in the community and given millions of dollars to education . When i was visiting there i saw Mr .Solomon Jackson in Bank of America he smiled and spoke to me . He  has a rep in the bank that helps with his  philanthrophy .Mr.Solomon Jackson looked very thin and looked  as if he has been hagged alot.I heard that he has moved out of Sc because of being harassed by so many people .Another Sc person  that won $400 million in Lexington sc choose anonymity .People should consider this option to avoid  any negative situations  that comes with winning a huge of amount of money in a lottery.Marie Holmes did not have to go on television and expose herself so much to the media.I pray that her children are kept safe and she truly gets herself together .

i wanna know who that git behind her is  " woooo we're rich we're rich. " dont these places have security?

No her house is very basic.  It's a blue house, they showed it on the news when they had the cops storming through her home and arresting her man on the porch. I looked it up on zillow, it's a brand new house that she purchased months after winning the lottery. If I remember right, it's about a little over 2000sq ft.  It's a nice home, but for a mega lottery winner, it's basic. Reminds me of a habitat house.

When did you survey Ms. Holmes and made it public record of these facts? How do you know what she has done for her children or not? It's a fact that you are presuming and making up assumptions.

How did you get the address?  I was just going by the address on the news report in the local newspaper. 

Link me to the Zillow listing or a photo of the house, please.  I'd like to see it.

Yes, and Ms. Holmes even went on natl. TV, the Good Morning America show, I believe.  I spent an hour or so last night reading interviews by folks in the UK who went public.  As you probably know, you can remain anonymous over there, but quite a few people chose to talk about their win.  Most said the news would get out anyway and one woman said "It would be living a lie."

We don't have anonymity here in Texas and I have no problem with that.  I really doubt that, if I win, I'll get harassed all that much...I'm sure there would be some begging letters, but they'll go right into the circular file cabinet and no one but my family will know my private phone number; any other calls will go to an answering machine or voice mailbox.  Woe unto anyone who tries to break into my house....if they ignore the warning signs and manage to get by the alarms, then they'll have a fang or two hung in 'em and if that doesn't deter them, then it will be two in the chest and one in the forehead.  Perfectly legal here to shoot a home intruder, God bless Texas.   I'd probably file suit against the intruder's family for the price of the bullets and to recoup the cost of cleaning the carpet.

lol. texas is a beautiful place .I have relatives in New Braunfels .They live in the suburbs and have trouble ith the deer eating up there plants in the yard all the time.im not sure why lottery winners  would expose them self on television if anonymity is an option.It sounds like you will be ready for any intruder .I like my privacy and Im not so sure about giving my number to family because they may give it out .Just maybe my cell number .

Mike, while we don't have the anonymity factor going for us, we sure have minimum publicity as a repeating standard. I clicked on our lottery website under Media releases. I went down through most of the news stories for all the newly created millionaires including the TL Management Trust that won 1/3rd of the same drawing as M. Holmes did and guess what ?
Its the same theme throughout,"The claimant requested minimum publicity"
Something others may want to consider....I know I sure will.

Oh, I will too, CT.  I'm certainly not going to hold a press conference or do any TV interviews.    I do think the amt. of hassle a lottery winner gets is in direct proportion to the amt. of money won.   I've said this before and will say it again;  some people are worrying about the thieves in ski masks holding a gun and yelling "Gimme all yer money!" but if I ever win, I am going to worry more about the thieves in suits and ties holding a contract and pen and softly saying "Here...sign this.  Trust me."  The other troubles can easily be dealt with.

Marie Holme's address where they did the drug raid is located at 3055 Boverie St,Shallotte, NC 28470.  I don't know whether or not she has more than one home, I doubt it, though. She paid $299,000 for it, out of the MILLIONS she has. 

5 beds  4.5 baths  3,201 sqft

Compare the house to the video on google. ''Exclusive video of Marie Holmes drug bust.'' 

This is by far a mansion or even what most would consider a luxury home....at least in my opinion.

It's a nice home but looks like an upgraded habitat home. You can check out the pictures of the inside/outside of house.

You said it right! It's her money and her choice what she does with it. Hopefully she listens to the feedback on her FB and LP and pack up and leave him behind. If she doesn't then it's almost a guarantee that he'll be back in jail and they will give him a bigger bond like you said. And she'll keep bailing him out till Government takes all of her lotto $$.

The Government watches you  like a hawk when you win this kind of money.

Thanks.  I found it on several different real estate sites, but none had it marked as "sold".  None of the articles I read mentioned the exact address. Pretty nice house, like you say,not a mansion but it's luxurious - by MY standards. (which are fairly low, considering my own shack. )  Bing Maps still shows it to be in that gated division, though.

Zillow has the history on her new home. The deed is listed under a different town and name. The house it self is quite a step up from her previous living situation that they had profiled and is located in a new sub division that has card gated access and not guard gated.

Definitely very modest home for someone of her means. I personally think a more exclusive guard gated community in a different state would have been a better and safer choice for her and her family.

I agree. She could have easily paid $2 million or so on an extremely home in a much nicer neighborhood and area and it would not have affected her finances one bit. After she pays the balance of her federal tax bill in April, 2016 her true take home payment will still be roughly $70 million. 

Just to put things in perspective, buying a $2 million dollar house with her assets would be comparable to someone who has $70k in savings splurging $2,000 on a dream home.

 at spending $2 million for a house

Yeah, very true. I agree $2 million would be very reasonable. That could have been a home with a lot of acres with very few neighbors to snitch you out.

Had she spent more on a home with acreage instead of the modest home she purchased then I'm sure her neighbors wouldn't have been so close to smell the weed...lol

If I had the money she has I would probably stay somewhat within the same county and I would only spend around $500,000, maybe $1.5 million...at least that's what I tell myself from the homes I've seen on the internet that fit my taste if I ever were to win.   Maybe up to $5 million somewhere in California or Georgia.

I guess where she came from is a big step up and I'm sure it feels like a mansion to her. Over 3000ft is spacious and 1000 more feet than I have to walk around. lol

 She seemed to be sensible with her home purchase, so, I'm not sure why she made such a foolish choice on $9M for bail bond but to each his/her own, I guess.

I'm sure the next news story will be about her house getting boarded up and getting seized by the government.

I'm still rooting for her and hope she proves me and everybody else wrong about her naive nature and poor judgement.

In your case I have no doubt it would be a castle.

I just thought of another valid point as to why she bought such a modest home. Knowing full well that her boyfriend would continue to deal in drugs, there was no way she was going to spend over a million dollars on a dream home and possibly having it seized by federal or state agencies because of the illicit activities.

She is in need of serious guidance because the route she is taking is jeopardizing the future and well being of her entire family. She is madly in love with a drug dealing felon and it's unfortunate for her and her children.

Its a  very nice home guys ,much better than she was living . Mike in texas on the zillow site it sold on july 2,2015 for $299,900 .You can see the inside as well .I wonder if she lost custody of her 3 kids belonging to one of her  baby  father would she have to give him child support if he wanted custody of the three kids.The youngest baby belongs to another father and paper & family  said that hes not in the babys life.

That could be true and a very logic reason.

The situation Marie Holmes is in with the drug dealing boyfriend is very  dangerous.A classmate of mine from highschool   went to prison for  a  huge operation drug bust and was given 10-15 years in prison .These drugdealers retailated  upon his release , held 2 of his children  and girlfriend were held for ransom because he turn in alot of people to the feds.  His children and girlfriend  were found however being treated in a burn center with serious burns .I just hope that Marie Holmes gets rid of the boyfriend and  raise her children in a healthy enviroment .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XoHzcQ6CMg

I'm rooting for this girl BUT she is not helping her public image at all. She even posted on her facebook account that her beau is neither a seller nor a user of drugs.

Why would a clear thinking person spend $9M on a worthless phallic symbol?. Before you click on the video link above, be warned: It has some strong language!!!.

That gentleman sure spoke his mind and the majority of it I agree with but the part about Ms. Holmes lottery winnings being public money is off the deep end. That money is all hers and not a penny belongs to anyone other than what she owes in taxes to the federal government.

She is in dire need of guidance and I seriously doubt she will get competent help from anybody in her inner circle. It reminds me of of the financial advisor who attempted to help David Edwards but ended getting mocked and laughed at. Even if she is able to find a good group of attorneys, advisors and accountants who actually have some integrity, if she doesn't follow their advice and guidance then she may very well end up like many past jackpot winners....broke or dead.

Don't feel bad, lots of people missed this.

"While bondsmen do not have to release the name of who posted an inmate's bail, McDow's Powerball millionaire fiancée, Marie Holmes, likely footed the bill."

Well marie said it best why ya,ll worried about my money.In the history of the lottery,their have been a few sad stories of lottery winners.But most stories have been good.I.ll focus on the positive stories.If marie doesnt get it together,she will be talking about what she use to have.Tonight is mega,going get my ticket.

Wake up already. This man is a loser & a user. What is his problem can't he tell time, blow a curfew. He is a self center person, he is not going to be any help to you or your children. Who would bail this jerk out if you don't have the money. Since he seen to be hell bend on going in the wrong direction, jail. Let him cool his heels in there for a minute, so he can take responsibility for his action. Right now, there only one way to stop this. IT something all the money in the world can't buy your way out of. That is for Child Protective Service , to step in and take your children from you. It call child endangerment. Then the court, a judge found you to be a unfit parent! Where your options are your children or the man leaves. If you chose the man. No, visits to your children or contact if you come within 300 yard of the children you will be arrested. Plus all future children you might have will be taking at birth. "Let see if you really believe this man is worth all that & a bag of chips then."

This should be an example of what not to do if you win the lottery.

Amen.  The only thing better than learning from your own mistakes is learning from someone else's.

Great response!!  Lots of other races are jealous of her because she is black and she won that much money. If she blows the money, so what!! She won, you didn't, GET OVER IT!!!

Stupidity does not discriminate, about race or size of bank account, Dumb-dumb.

I  wonder what the outcome was from their court hearings .I believe marie holmes and her boyfriend had hearing dates today .

dunno nore care .....

Two Folks from the HOOD flock together. When you're born in the HOOD, you stay in the HOOD both physically and mentally. Once a Thug always a Thug.

lol .it seems to be  the case with this one..its a shame Marie Holmes  had everyone fooled with that sob story of taking  care her kids,going to school , and giving to her church.Once she got the lottery money all she could think about was getting "Hotsauce " Mcdow  out of jail .

lol..

Why?  Are you saying lottery winners shouldn't spend their winnings getting themselves and love ones out of trouble?  Maybe you think she should be spending it on someone more deserving than herself or her boyfriend.  Maybe you?

Birds of a feather flock together. You, a worthless ghetto drug dealer?