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Kola wrote
"
Again, the inefficient filters I was using to capture the winning number were:
1. I would perform DSUM, and eliminate the duplicates
2. I would delete the numbers that came out for both midday
and evening draws in the past two weeks
3. I would perform a Deflation with the Tool on this site in the
Resources section
4. I would eliminate the numbers that were not similar to the
numbers coming out in the draws for the past few days.
5. I would look at the pick 3 and pick 4 and I would keep those
numbers whose digits had been coming out within some
cyclical regularity in the past 2-3 days.
6. I would keep the digits of those numbers that had been the
most out of play in the draws for the past 3 days"
Okay, i now have even more questions than i had before... seems like the more you write down, the distance from clarity grows and grows...
1. How would you eliminate duplicats? Supose the workout has 012, 201, 210 and 120 somewhere in it. Which one of those 4 numbers would you keep, and why?
2. This is new...
3. That was very very very clear... (pehaps i should hookup any program i write to the deflation tool on LP? So, in other words, this system of yours can not be used without being a paying LP member.)
4. Define "similar" please.
5. So now we drag pick4 into the pick3 part?
6. I don't understand that line, so do you mean playing the cold digits, or the hot digits?
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@Laverne & Kola: concerning eve to eve / mid to eve and eve to mid
GA eve works best by going eve to eve, and picking the row that has the same root as the number for which the workout was created.
But i guess now we even have to extend the testing by adding the pick4 draws to the workout. Does it have to be GA pick4, when testing GA eve pick3? Or can it be any other state?
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Well said Clair and Laverne.
Clair - I "think" that I have some good news with PA...I will let you in on it if it pans out :) Well, I will share with everyone :)
Cps10
Thank you so very much, I would appreciate any ideas you have! PA can be tricky! I applaud anyone who has ideas for it! I was so disappointed the other day when I played 105 for day and 104 came out then to my dismay at night I played 549 and 548 came! I could of kicked myself for not playing front pairs!!!!!! At least I would of got something out of it!
Again I thank you for your Ideas!
Clair
Well, the good news is that I found a way to profit using the Clair/Cash system in PA Midday.
$195.75 using $0.25 bets
The bad news: It required a $500.00 bankroll and took place over an 86-day period.
BUT....it is still a profit. I am going to work on PA Evening later. And I am going to experiment with a couple of things to see if I can't get the bankroll down and get the profits up.
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Using the DSUM method:
The digit 1 will always be followed by 0 (down 1), 1 (same), 2 (up 1), or 6 (mirror) and from this we can create a chart.
D
S
U
M
1
0
1
2
6
2
1
2
3
7
3
2
3
4
8
4
3
4
5
9
5
4
5
6
0
6
5
6
7
1
7
6
7
8
2
8
7
8
9
3
9
8
9
0
4
0
9
0
1
5
Now if I understand the instructions correctly, when 709 hit the Ohio evening draw on April 1, 2006, using the chart, I should play (6-7-8-2) with (9-0-1-5) with (7-8-9-3).
619 followed 932 with no results and the next 10 draws using the DSUM method:
112 – 3 way box 610 – 6 way box 623 – missed 337 – 3 way box 219 – missed 347 – missed 646 – missed 442 – missed 112 – missed 001 – straight and 3-way box
Obviously only 12 draws is a poor way to evaluate any methodology, but using Betslips with its higher payoffs and playing $.50 straight and boxed at $64 a draw would have produced a profit of $282.
Stack
Stack
I LOVE this chart. Could you tell me how you have wheeled these numbers to get your 64 combos? I like how this could play out of all of this.
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Milky Way Spiral United States
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Kola wrote
"
Again, the inefficient filters I was using to capture the winning number were:
1. I would perform DSUM, and eliminate the duplicates
2. I would delete the numbers that came out for both midday
and evening draws in the past two weeks
3. I would perform a Deflation with the Tool on this site in the
Resources section
4. I would eliminate the numbers that were not similar to the
numbers coming out in the draws for the past few days.
5. I would look at the pick 3 and pick 4 and I would keep those
numbers whose digits had been coming out within some
cyclical regularity in the past 2-3 days.
6. I would keep the digits of those numbers that had been the
most out of play in the draws for the past 3 days"
Okay, i now have even more questions than i had before... seems like the more you write down, the distance from clarity grows and grows...
1. How would you eliminate duplicats? Supose the workout has 012, 201, 210 and 120 somewhere in it. Which one of those 4 numbers would you keep, and why?
2. This is new...
3. That was very very very clear... (pehaps i should hookup any program i write to the deflation tool on LP? So, in other words, this system of yours can not be used without being a paying LP member.)
4. Define "similar" please.
5. So now we drag pick4 into the pick3 part?
6. I don't understand that line, so do you mean playing the cold digits, or the hot digits?
Funny Paurths.
Just remember that with all that I have written about my filters, that is what has worked for me.
If its too much for you, don't use it. Maybe you can find something better. Right now I have'nt played anything online in the past few weeks. I've just been testing my new discoveries.
I'd rather not anyone use those filters I was using. Only if they want. They were particular to me and the way I think.
To answer your questions though:
1. I would eliminate all duplicates indiscriminately, and just keep one form, any form of the number.
2. The thing that you called new is common knowlede. People know of the deflation tool. I mentioned it once in this thread, so maybe you could have missed it. I didn't harp on it, because I felt that there may be other tools to look into.Keep the core of DSUM, but try to expand using other techniques. Instead of taking my filtering techniques as law. Again, I was and I am still looking to refine. These filtering techniques are not specific to the DSUM pattern. I just thought they might work to a degree.
3. Are you serious? nah you can't be. You don't have to use anything I used to aid me with DSUM. DSUM should be flexible enough to adapt it with what works for you. Try other techniques not the one I listed. Try to go outside of my DSUM design pattern. Still use it, but use some of that right-brain creativity to manhandle DSUM. Think in a linear(of course), and non-linear fashion.
4. I would eliminate draws that were not similar to the numbers coming out in the last few days means...
Suppose 217, 416, 719 is coming through in the draws. I would filter out the DSUM numbers like 850, 353 etc... because they were visibly so unlike the pattern that was coming out in the draws.
5. Nope you don't need to drag Pick 4 into it all. All the things I have listed are personal. you don't have to use the. You asked me what I happened to use. This is it. Please don't go down the "its changing again" road. It isn't Again DSUM was developed apart from these methods. I like to use Pick 3 and pick 4, because there are similarities or resonances with the numbers in both systems. Just keep looking at them and you will begin to get certain impressions. If it complicates things for you leave it alone. I
6. In general I would play the hot digits. But after 3-maybe 4 5 days, I would get the impression that the cold digits were about to appear again. These impressions were culled from the slight changes that would occur in the pattern of the Pick 3/4 digits. That 3 to 5 day wait wasn't static, It could have been as soon as two days, if I saw a change in draws I would act accordingly and play cold digits as well. Sometimes I wouldn't know, and I would wait a couple of days for a clearer pattern.
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@Laverne & Kola: concerning eve to eve / mid to eve and eve to mid
GA eve works best by going eve to eve, and picking the row that has the same root as the number for which the workout was created.
But i guess now we even have to extend the testing by adding the pick4 draws to the workout. Does it have to be GA pick4, when testing GA eve pick3? Or can it be any other state?
Its great you made that GA observation - molding DSUM to work for you, and honor your root system.
You don't have to use pick 4 draws for the workouts. But if you want to use it just to notice what the Pick 4 numbers are doing use the same state's numbers. Example use GA for GA.
Caveat is being that you know that numbes travel...if you have identified those patterns, you could then go to a sister state of GA ,and use the Pick 3 of that sister state to help you zero in on GA. If you dare to use that sister's or travelling states Pick 4, great. If its too much,leave it alone.
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Using the DSUM method:
The digit 1 will always be followed by 0 (down 1), 1 (same), 2 (up 1), or 6 (mirror) and from this we can create a chart.
D
S
U
M
1
0
1
2
6
2
1
2
3
7
3
2
3
4
8
4
3
4
5
9
5
4
5
6
0
6
5
6
7
1
7
6
7
8
2
8
7
8
9
3
9
8
9
0
4
0
9
0
1
5
Now if I understand the instructions correctly, when 709 hit the Ohio evening draw on April 1, 2006, using the chart, I should play (6-7-8-2) with (9-0-1-5) with (7-8-9-3).
619 followed 932 with no results and the next 10 draws using the DSUM method:
112 – 3 way box 610 – 6 way box 623 – missed 337 – 3 way box 219 – missed 347 – missed 646 – missed 442 – missed 112 – missed 001 – straight and 3-way box
Obviously only 12 draws is a poor way to evaluate any methodology, but using Betslips with its higher payoffs and playing $.50 straight and boxed at $64 a draw would have produced a profit of $282.
Stack
Stack
I LOVE this chart. Could you tell me how you have wheeled these numbers to get your 64 combos? I like how this could play out of all of this.
Hi cps,
Yes cps, its great chart. just be aware that the chart is showing you a tenth of what you need to look at to identify possible pattern, if any.
What should also be there is a wrapdown or rundown of each of the 64 numbers. After you do that find a way to play the right string across going from left to right. In that way will have the template to begin picking the correct string of 64 numbers to play.
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Kola wrote
"
Again, the inefficient filters I was using to capture the winning number were:
1. I would perform DSUM, and eliminate the duplicates
2. I would delete the numbers that came out for both midday
and evening draws in the past two weeks
3. I would perform a Deflation with the Tool on this site in the
Resources section
4. I would eliminate the numbers that were not similar to the
numbers coming out in the draws for the past few days.
5. I would look at the pick 3 and pick 4 and I would keep those
numbers whose digits had been coming out within some
cyclical regularity in the past 2-3 days.
6. I would keep the digits of those numbers that had been the
most out of play in the draws for the past 3 days"
Okay, i now have even more questions than i had before... seems like the more you write down, the distance from clarity grows and grows...
1. How would you eliminate duplicats? Supose the workout has 012, 201, 210 and 120 somewhere in it. Which one of those 4 numbers would you keep, and why?
2. This is new...
3. That was very very very clear... (pehaps i should hookup any program i write to the deflation tool on LP? So, in other words, this system of yours can not be used without being a paying LP member.)
4. Define "similar" please.
5. So now we drag pick4 into the pick3 part?
6. I don't understand that line, so do you mean playing the cold digits, or the hot digits?
Funny Paurths.
Just remember that with all that I have written about my filters, that is what has worked for me.
If its too much for you, don't use it. Maybe you can find something better. Right now I have'nt played anything online in the past few weeks. I've just been testing my new discoveries.
I'd rather not anyone use those filters I was using. Only if they want. They were particular to me and the way I think.
To answer your questions though:
1. I would eliminate all duplicates indiscriminately, and just keep one form, any form of the number.
2. The thing that you called new is common knowlede. People know of the deflation tool. I mentioned it once in this thread, so maybe you could have missed it. I didn't harp on it, because I felt that there may be other tools to look into.Keep the core of DSUM, but try to expand using other techniques. Instead of taking my filtering techniques as law. Again, I was and I am still looking to refine. These filtering techniques are not specific to the DSUM pattern. I just thought they might work to a degree.
3. Are you serious? nah you can't be. You don't have to use anything I used to aid me with DSUM. DSUM should be flexible enough to adapt it with what works for you. Try other techniques not the one I listed. Try to go outside of my DSUM design pattern. Still use it, but use some of that right-brain creativity to manhandle DSUM. Think in a linear(of course), and non-linear fashion.
4. I would eliminate draws that were not similar to the numbers coming out in the last few days means...
Suppose 217, 416, 719 is coming through in the draws. I would filter out the DSUM numbers like 850, 353 etc... because they were visibly so unlike the pattern that was coming out in the draws.
5. Nope you don't need to drag Pick 4 into it all. All the things I have listed are personal. you don't have to use the. You asked me what I happened to use. This is it. Please don't go down the "its changing again" road. It isn't Again DSUM was developed apart from these methods. I like to use Pick 3 and pick 4, because there are similarities or resonances with the numbers in both systems. Just keep looking at them and you will begin to get certain impressions. If it complicates things for you leave it alone. I
6. In general I would play the hot digits. But after 3-maybe 4 5 days, I would get the impression that the cold digits were about to appear again. These impressions were culled from the slight changes that would occur in the pattern of the Pick 3/4 digits. That 3 to 5 day wait wasn't static, It could have been as soon as two days, if I saw a change in draws I would act accordingly and play cold digits as well. Sometimes I wouldn't know, and I would wait a couple of days for a clearer pattern.
Great question Paurths. I hope I was clear.
Question:
1. How would you eliminate duplicats? Supose the workout has 012, 201, 210 and 120 somewhere in it. Which one of those 4 numbers would you keep, and why?
.
Answer:
1. I would eliminate all duplicates indiscriminately, and just keep one form, any form of the number.
.
So all these boxes you have been telling me that you had compared to my one .... now it changes again???
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Kola wrote
"
Again, the inefficient filters I was using to capture the winning number were:
1. I would perform DSUM, and eliminate the duplicates
2. I would delete the numbers that came out for both midday
and evening draws in the past two weeks
3. I would perform a Deflation with the Tool on this site in the
Resources section
4. I would eliminate the numbers that were not similar to the
numbers coming out in the draws for the past few days.
5. I would look at the pick 3 and pick 4 and I would keep those
numbers whose digits had been coming out within some
cyclical regularity in the past 2-3 days.
6. I would keep the digits of those numbers that had been the
most out of play in the draws for the past 3 days"
Okay, i now have even more questions than i had before... seems like the more you write down, the distance from clarity grows and grows...
1. How would you eliminate duplicats? Supose the workout has 012, 201, 210 and 120 somewhere in it. Which one of those 4 numbers would you keep, and why?
2. This is new...
3. That was very very very clear... (pehaps i should hookup any program i write to the deflation tool on LP? So, in other words, this system of yours can not be used without being a paying LP member.)
4. Define "similar" please.
5. So now we drag pick4 into the pick3 part?
6. I don't understand that line, so do you mean playing the cold digits, or the hot digits?
Funny Paurths.
Just remember that with all that I have written about my filters, that is what has worked for me.
If its too much for you, don't use it. Maybe you can find something better. Right now I have'nt played anything online in the past few weeks. I've just been testing my new discoveries.
I'd rather not anyone use those filters I was using. Only if they want. They were particular to me and the way I think.
To answer your questions though:
1. I would eliminate all duplicates indiscriminately, and just keep one form, any form of the number.
2. The thing that you called new is common knowlede. People know of the deflation tool. I mentioned it once in this thread, so maybe you could have missed it. I didn't harp on it, because I felt that there may be other tools to look into.Keep the core of DSUM, but try to expand using other techniques. Instead of taking my filtering techniques as law. Again, I was and I am still looking to refine. These filtering techniques are not specific to the DSUM pattern. I just thought they might work to a degree.
3. Are you serious? nah you can't be. You don't have to use anything I used to aid me with DSUM. DSUM should be flexible enough to adapt it with what works for you. Try other techniques not the one I listed. Try to go outside of my DSUM design pattern. Still use it, but use some of that right-brain creativity to manhandle DSUM. Think in a linear(of course), and non-linear fashion.
4. I would eliminate draws that were not similar to the numbers coming out in the last few days means...
Suppose 217, 416, 719 is coming through in the draws. I would filter out the DSUM numbers like 850, 353 etc... because they were visibly so unlike the pattern that was coming out in the draws.
5. Nope you don't need to drag Pick 4 into it all. All the things I have listed are personal. you don't have to use the. You asked me what I happened to use. This is it. Please don't go down the "its changing again" road. It isn't Again DSUM was developed apart from these methods. I like to use Pick 3 and pick 4, because there are similarities or resonances with the numbers in both systems. Just keep looking at them and you will begin to get certain impressions. If it complicates things for you leave it alone. I
6. In general I would play the hot digits. But after 3-maybe 4 5 days, I would get the impression that the cold digits were about to appear again. These impressions were culled from the slight changes that would occur in the pattern of the Pick 3/4 digits. That 3 to 5 day wait wasn't static, It could have been as soon as two days, if I saw a change in draws I would act accordingly and play cold digits as well. Sometimes I wouldn't know, and I would wait a couple of days for a clearer pattern.
Great question Paurths. I hope I was clear.
Question:
1. How would you eliminate duplicats? Supose the workout has 012, 201, 210 and 120 somewhere in it. Which one of those 4 numbers would you keep, and why?
.
Answer:
1. I would eliminate all duplicates indiscriminately, and just keep one form, any form of the number.
.
So all these boxes you have been telling me that you had compared to my one .... now it changes again???
Caliduuuude, whoa!
moving too fast again.
The above quote is in response to Paurths question as to how I use to pick my numbers in DSUM. Initially, and exclusively I use to eliminate columns of duplicates.
My respnse to you Calidude about the boxes was based on the current way I do most of my DSUMMING. Even though I wil both strings and columns, I favor strings, moreso than columns. When favoring strings, i don't eliminate anything. If you had looked closely to Paurths earlier example of where I claimed the multiple hits, you didn't have to take my word for it . They were staring you right in the face. There on the screen. Also you would see that the format of Paurths program lends itself to readily choosing strings.
Just ask me the question CD. You hardly ever have. Lots of inaccurate declarations about what you percieve I'm doing though. Oh well...I hope I have been clear.
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dang kola 036 produced repeat of 549 and it was on desteny's chart!! CRAPOLA!!!!! lol thats ok ill catch another big one soon thanks to you and destiny
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dang kola 036 produced repeat of 549 and it was on desteny's chart!! CRAPOLA!!!!! lol thats ok ill catch another big one soon thanks to you and destiny
Great nonetheless Bi polar. That $5000 you scored. I haven't forgot that. It seems you've made it work for you. Hope you get more hits.
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Using the DSUM method:
The digit 1 will always be followed by 0 (down 1), 1 (same), 2 (up 1), or 6 (mirror) and from this we can create a chart.
D
S
U
M
1
0
1
2
6
2
1
2
3
7
3
2
3
4
8
4
3
4
5
9
5
4
5
6
0
6
5
6
7
1
7
6
7
8
2
8
7
8
9
3
9
8
9
0
4
0
9
0
1
5
Now if I understand the instructions correctly, when 709 hit the Ohio evening draw on April 1, 2006, using the chart, I should play (6-7-8-2) with (9-0-1-5) with (7-8-9-3).
619 followed 932 with no results and the next 10 draws using the DSUM method:
112 – 3 way box 610 – 6 way box 623 – missed 337 – 3 way box 219 – missed 347 – missed 646 – missed 442 – missed 112 – missed 001 – straight and 3-way box
Obviously only 12 draws is a poor way to evaluate any methodology, but using Betslips with its higher payoffs and playing $.50 straight and boxed at $64 a draw would have produced a profit of $282.
Stack
Stack
I LOVE this chart. Could you tell me how you have wheeled these numbers to get your 64 combos? I like how this could play out of all of this.
Hi cps,
Yes cps, its great chart. just be aware that the chart is showing you a tenth of what you need to look at to identify possible pattern, if any.
What should also be there is a wrapdown or rundown of each of the 64 numbers. After you do that find a way to play the right string across going from left to right. In that way will have the template to begin picking the correct string of 64 numbers to play.
KOLA
Yes, I understand what you are saying about the 1/10th, however, I do have something else in mind regarding the DSUM. Maybe using the 64 and playing those out. It would be a progression added to it, hence my Nickname to the left there, "Progression King". I would be happy to test that theory out for you as well to see if it holds water. That might be more my speed :)
The North Carolina Education Lottery - so much a joke that here are their mascots:
Milky Way Spiral United States
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December 25, 2005
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Using the DSUM method:
The digit 1 will always be followed by 0 (down 1), 1 (same), 2 (up 1), or 6 (mirror) and from this we can create a chart.
D
S
U
M
1
0
1
2
6
2
1
2
3
7
3
2
3
4
8
4
3
4
5
9
5
4
5
6
0
6
5
6
7
1
7
6
7
8
2
8
7
8
9
3
9
8
9
0
4
0
9
0
1
5
Now if I understand the instructions correctly, when 709 hit the Ohio evening draw on April 1, 2006, using the chart, I should play (6-7-8-2) with (9-0-1-5) with (7-8-9-3).
619 followed 932 with no results and the next 10 draws using the DSUM method:
112 – 3 way box 610 – 6 way box 623 – missed 337 – 3 way box 219 – missed 347 – missed 646 – missed 442 – missed 112 – missed 001 – straight and 3-way box
Obviously only 12 draws is a poor way to evaluate any methodology, but using Betslips with its higher payoffs and playing $.50 straight and boxed at $64 a draw would have produced a profit of $282.
Stack
Stack
I LOVE this chart. Could you tell me how you have wheeled these numbers to get your 64 combos? I like how this could play out of all of this.
Hi cps,
Yes cps, its great chart. just be aware that the chart is showing you a tenth of what you need to look at to identify possible pattern, if any.
What should also be there is a wrapdown or rundown of each of the 64 numbers. After you do that find a way to play the right string across going from left to right. In that way will have the template to begin picking the correct string of 64 numbers to play.
KOLA
Yes, I understand what you are saying about the 1/10th, however, I do have something else in mind regarding the DSUM. Maybe using the 64 and playing those out. It would be a progression added to it, hence my Nickname to the left there, "Progression King". I would be happy to test that theory out for you as well to see if it holds water. That might be more my speed :)
Hmm... What do you mean exactly?
In DSUM you do only play out one string of 64 numbers. you pick 1 row.
Aaah. I think I know what you mean. You would stagger the 64 numbers pulling 16 numbers or so from each row. Right? Or even taking one, step down to the next row, take one step down to the next row, 64 times through . Let me shut up! I'll wait. Curious. I hope you have found a way. I'll be pulling for ya'