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How do I prove my state lottery's CGNs are fixed?

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Posted: March 29, 2008, 11:51 am - IP Logged

Bravo JadeLottery,

 I've been watching your progress on this in the background for quite some time. I am a player and do monitor the badger5 on a daily basis. While I will admit I'm not a wheel player and most of your analysis is way beyond my comprehension I have been very intrigued by it.

I to have noticed many things that seem out of the norm from your traditional ball lotteries. It was very obvious to me that there have been "adjustments" made during the life of badger5 especially at the beginning. Whether it is human intervention or software "adjusting" itself I don't know... but it is there.

For instance one of the many noticeable oddities. There have been 19 pentads occuring twice in the history of draws. Of those 7 are within months of each other and a few within weeks. Hardly what you would expect to see within a truly random lottery.

11/07/05 Mon,2,8,11,12,31
08/18/05 Thu,2,8,11,12,31

10/08/04 Fri,2,11,19,26,30
09/16/04 Thu,2,11,19,26,30

03/20/07 Tue,5,6,8,15,19
02/09/07 Fri,5,6,8,15,19

09/29/07 Sat,5,13,17,19,29
08/16/07 Thu,5,13,17,19,29

07/07/05 Thu,6,16,19,21,28
06/16/05 Thu,6,16,19,21,28

 for those that always play the same numbers... nice play Wink

 

Anyhow I just wanted to chime in and let you know...nice work...and I'm glad to see someone else thinks that something smells like dead carp in lake mendota! 

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    Bravo JadeLottery,

     I've been watching your progress on this in the background for quite some time. I am a player and do monitor the badger5 on a daily basis. While I will admit I'm not a wheel player and most of your analysis is way beyond my comprehension I have been very intrigued by it.

    I to have noticed many things that seem out of the norm from your traditional ball lotteries. It was very obvious to me that there have been "adjustments" made during the life of badger5 especially at the beginning. Whether it is human intervention or software "adjusting" itself I don't know... but it is there.

    For instance one of the many noticeable oddities. There have been 19 pentads occuring twice in the history of draws. Of those 7 are within months of each other and a few within weeks. Hardly what you would expect to see within a truly random lottery.

    11/07/05 Mon,2,8,11,12,31
    08/18/05 Thu,2,8,11,12,31

    10/08/04 Fri,2,11,19,26,30
    09/16/04 Thu,2,11,19,26,30

    03/20/07 Tue,5,6,8,15,19
    02/09/07 Fri,5,6,8,15,19

    09/29/07 Sat,5,13,17,19,29
    08/16/07 Thu,5,13,17,19,29

    07/07/05 Thu,6,16,19,21,28
    06/16/05 Thu,6,16,19,21,28

     for those that always play the same numbers... nice play Wink

     

    Anyhow I just wanted to chime in and let you know...nice work...and I'm glad to see someone else thinks that something smells like dead carp in lake mendota! 

    Sledgemoto,

    Thanks, I try to make this as easy to understand as possible. However, some of the number crunching can get a bit wielding at times. I find that graphs help a lot when trying to talk about an abstract number analysis and animated graphs help out even more. It's as close to laymen as I can get without loosing much of the fundamental concept of the analysis, method or idea.

    Yeah, there are many unreasonable occurrences during the entire span of this computer generated number scheme and even more in the recent past 175 draws. I've simulated this lottery myself on my own computer and don't see 1/10th the number of anomalies I'm seeing in Badger 5. I've run 10's of thousands of draws during this whole thing and none of my results seem to have a reasonable relationship to the kinds of number selections the Badger 5 is kicking out.

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      Ok, now that most of you have viewed the graph animation, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYxlTZYE8c, of just one of the anomalies that have plagued the Badger 5 drawings since 2007-10-05. I'd like to address some other issues that have arisen during this topic. There is a misperception being injected into the mindset of those who are reading this. The misperception is that my objective in this post and others is to bring down my state lottery. That is not correct; at no point during this topic or any other have I made it a point to 'Bring down the Lottery'. Actually, quite the opposite, I'd like to see my state lottery continue on for many years making winning smiles and millionaires of many Wisconsinites for a long time. It's the system that is currently being use to make those happy faces, that is in doubt.

      I remember a time when playing the lottery was fun and exciting. I'd get my numbers and the night of the drawing I'd sit and watch the balls come down the chute... oh! there's a 7...  and sometimes I'd win, sometimes I'd loose, but IT WAS EXCITING EITHER WAY. Now, we have nothing, not even a televised drawing of the Powerball here in Wisconsin. What's to be excited about? Nothing! To add even more discuss to the non-excitement, the draws aren't even real.

      But you know what, I tried to make it exciting by giving it a try. Ok, if the lottery is saying is as good as the real thing, maybe I could be wrong and need to regenerate the excitement in a different way. After playing for a while I began seeing a dramatic difference in what I was winning, or the lack thereof. I didn't expect to win the jackpot, but this was ridiculous; even getting the lower tier prizes were like trying to shoot for the jackpot. It was unrealistic and unreasonable to see these kind of things happening, given this was supposed to be a truly random drawing. I had to stop playing and just monitor the drawings.

      Later I began trying some things, but this time instead of playing them, I'd post them here at the LP in either the topics or predictions board. I noticed that even then my theories, systems and picks began running cold. This was very strange, I mean, How could the lottery be by coincidence picking numbers that acted contrary to what I was picking? Then it stuck me, It's not coincidence. Typically, a coincidence will come and go, but this was permanent, not reasonable and not logical given the fact that the numbers are suppose to be random. This is what ultimately lead to this topic, the unreasonable selection of numbers.

      Now, it would be easy to say that this is about trying to predict exactly what combination will occur, but it's not. The approach to this is to analyze a set of numbers over a span of draws to see what is happening as compared to what is reasonable for that same draw span. No single draw or single number is in question. It is the culmination of all the draws and numbers during a span of draws that is used to give a snap shot of what is going on in the lottery's selection process. A single draw or single number may have some minor influence, but it cannot by their single instum state affect the whole span of draws drastically. The analytical sum of the draws themselves are greater than the individual analysis of the draws themselves.

      To put it simply, it is not the lottery itself that is in question, it is the number selecting system that supports it that is.

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        Site updates are interfering with the auto posting of the Badger 5 wheel on a tight random schedule of 19:54 to 19:58 daily. I've reprogrammed the auto posting to an expanded random selection time frame of 00:00 to 19:58 daily to increase the probability of auto posting the Badger 5 wheel when LP site updates are being done.

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          We're approaching draw 200 for Exp. 1 and Exp. 2. We'll add more data and fill in some additional information sometime after.

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            Jadelottery's number crunching is well over my head. Sladgemooto's post makes it very obvious that Wisconsin had & maybe has a big problem.

            But to prove the game is fixed I think you should crunch the numbers on other games as well. The larger the pool of numbers the greater the variation from what we might consider random will be in a relative short time span.As an example, chart. the first digit in either a pick three or four game.The odds tell you any given number should come up an average of 1 out of ten & they do over long periods of time. However, many times a number will go over fourty drawings without hitting & in the Ohio lottery I have seen a number go over ninety. I only chart Ohio but I'm sure this holds true in all random state drawings.

            My theory is that in any given game a number has the capacity not to be selected tens times the odds of it being selected. As an example, the odds of a pick three are one in 1000 so any given number has the capacity not to be selected in 10,000 drawings. I haven't calculated the number of drawing it has been, but in Ohio the number 023 has not hit since January 7,1984. That's over twenty years !!

            My point is that in a truly random drawing many what we think of as anomalies will occur in short time periods. A drawing of ninety numbers is not sufficient proof for the pick three. There should be thousands of anomalies in a pick 5 game over a short duration of 90 drawings. If there weren't it wouldn't be random.

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              Jadelottery's number crunching is well over my head. Sladgemooto's post makes it very obvious that Wisconsin had & maybe has a big problem.

              But to prove the game is fixed I think you should crunch the numbers on other games as well. The larger the pool of numbers the greater the variation from what we might consider random will be in a relative short time span.As an example, chart. the first digit in either a pick three or four game.The odds tell you any given number should come up an average of 1 out of ten & they do over long periods of time. However, many times a number will go over fourty drawings without hitting & in the Ohio lottery I have seen a number go over ninety. I only chart Ohio but I'm sure this holds true in all random state drawings.

              My theory is that in any given game a number has the capacity not to be selected tens times the odds of it being selected. As an example, the odds of a pick three are one in 1000 so any given number has the capacity not to be selected in 10,000 drawings. I haven't calculated the number of drawing it has been, but in Ohio the number 023 has not hit since January 7,1984. That's over twenty years !!

              My point is that in a truly random drawing many what we think of as anomalies will occur in short time periods. A drawing of ninety numbers is not sufficient proof for the pick three. There should be thousands of anomalies in a pick 5 game over a short duration of 90 drawings. If there weren't it wouldn't be random.

              I'm working on making fraud detection a part of JADE LSG 2.0. That way anyone can number crunch themselves. This is just a test run of a few detection methods.

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                Jadelottery's number crunching is well over my head. Sladgemooto's post makes it very obvious that Wisconsin had & maybe has a big problem.

                But to prove the game is fixed I think you should crunch the numbers on other games as well. The larger the pool of numbers the greater the variation from what we might consider random will be in a relative short time span.As an example, chart. the first digit in either a pick three or four game.The odds tell you any given number should come up an average of 1 out of ten & they do over long periods of time. However, many times a number will go over fourty drawings without hitting & in the Ohio lottery I have seen a number go over ninety. I only chart Ohio but I'm sure this holds true in all random state drawings.

                My theory is that in any given game a number has the capacity not to be selected tens times the odds of it being selected. As an example, the odds of a pick three are one in 1000 so any given number has the capacity not to be selected in 10,000 drawings. I haven't calculated the number of drawing it has been, but in Ohio the number 023 has not hit since January 7,1984. That's over twenty years !!

                My point is that in a truly random drawing many what we think of as anomalies will occur in short time periods. A drawing of ninety numbers is not sufficient proof for the pick three. There should be thousands of anomalies in a pick 5 game over a short duration of 90 drawings. If there weren't it wouldn't be random.

                In reference to the Ohio 023, is that midday, evening or both?

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                  Below is the total run down of what we have so far.

                  Data Stream ChronoBadger 5 DrawWheel, Matched Draw #'s, Line Match DistributionScramble Order (Implemented 2008-03-04)
                  Index 0Index 1PostedYearMonthDayABCDEWM01234512345678910111213
                  11Yes200712424111522031223114                             
                  22Yes20071251292029013119                                 
                  33Yes2007126412141620046182042                           
                  44Yes200712711213151804322205                             
                  55Yes200712818102830013119                                 
                  66Yes20071293101326310221209                               
                  77Yes200712102562225013119                                 
                  88Yes2007121151113162593102218                               
                  99Yes2007121218121620031025123                             
                  1010Yes200712139111724264217285                               
                  1111Yes200712145182130313217267                               
                  1212Yes20071215791216288218266                               
                  1313Yes2007121678111319231026104                             
                  1414Yes200712172472128313020                                 
                  1515Yes2007121818202426308219238                               
                  1616Yes2007121915162330713119                                 
                  1717Yes20071220492021247218266                               
                  1818Yes20071221812151826031023161                             
                  1919Yes200712221251923413119                                 
                  2020Yes20071223313232428813119                                 
                  2121Yes20071224571220277218266                               
                  2222Yes2007122511618193143926141                             
                  2323Yes2007122612132327311219247                               
                  2424Yes20071227161821253093927122                             
                  2525Yes2007122814523276050                                   
                  2626Yes2007122979192427713119                                 
                  2727Yes2007123079102326113020                                 
                  2828Yes20071231891922305218266                               
                  2929Yes20081168132628013119                                 
                  3030Yes200812420263031913119                                 
                  3131Yes200813191011235218266                               
                  3232Yes20081456212629013119                                 
                  33-No200815214151922---------------------
                  34-No200816716232731---------------------
                  3533Yes200817367820013119                                 
                  36-No2008185891115---------------------
                  3734Yes20081938172530013119                                 
                  3835Yes2008110913171925331122161                             
                  3936Yes200811161012151964520196                             
                  4037Yes2008112111416193064321215                             
                  4138Yes200811313102122831025132                             
                  4239Yes2008114121720212924521168                             
                  4340Yes20081151122024298217276                               
                  4441Yes200811639203031613119                                 
                  4542Yes20081171525262831913119                                 
                  4643Yes20081183459271050                                   
                  4744Yes200811924611178219238                               
                  4845Yes20081206232730315050                                   
                  4946Yes200812110111720222521617141                           
                  5047Yes200812241011152224518225                             
                  5148Yes200812315112427213119                                 
                  5249Yes20081245161724319218266                               
                  5350Yes20081251123262830913020                                 
                  5451Yes200812612172531213119                                 
                  5552Yes2008127714242730813119                                 
                  56-No20081281262029---------------------
                  5753Yes2008129101619222504223214                             
                  5854Yes20081301112026307219247                               
                  5955Yes20081311114151824546182051                           
                  6056Yes2008211351023913119                                 
                  6157Yes200822310151820345221481                           
                  6258Yes200823212242628713119                                 
                  6359Yes2008242891623013020                                 
                  6460Yes200825131720223004619187                             
                  6561Yes2008262111723243219247                               
                  6662Yes2008271517192127143241661                           
                  6763Yes200828712131922847191671                           
                  6864Yes200829342122276216304                               
                  6965Yes20082101210141513828122                             
                  7066Yes2008211141317304218266                               
                  7167Yes2008212791113243219247                               
                  7268Yes2008213181720231219238                               
                  7369Yes2008214351012316218266                               
                  7470Yes200821534162931813119                                 
                  7571Yes20082164671929813119                                 
                  7672Yes2008217612172130531220162                             
                  7773Yes20082181489246050                                   
                  7874Yes2008219691220302218266                               
                  7975Yes2008220411162127131024142                             
                  8076Yes2008221131415203114519215                             
                  8177Yes200822251416192224519197                             
                  8278Yes2008223491217194363392                             
                  8379Yes20082246891730113020                                 
                  8480Yes2008225514192129431025123                             
                  8581Yes200822621117182703926132                             
                  8682Yes200822721315203163829103                             
                  8783Yes200822871112141894320234                             
                  8884Yes2008229161722280218266                               
                  8985Yes20083125142328113119                                 
                  9086Yes200832791516300219238                               
                  9187Yes200833212192025331222124                             
                  9288Yes2008341161720280318266      13141620221218101521111917
                  9389Yes2008351252231013119        16131810191412172111221520
                  9490Yes20083616926310050          18201719131011161421221512
                  9591Yes20083714912130216304      20151014221319121711181621
                  9692Yes20083811014182104325148    14101917122021111522181613
                  9793Yes200839111922242903102218      10171312142016151911222118
                  9894Yes20083107152226290219247      20122211171914102116181513
                  9995Yes20083111113202124045192141  22131715111216101921182014
                  10096Yes20083123151727280217285      15161019221311201221181714
                  10197Yes2008313247822013119        15102219111816121714202113
                  10298Yes2008314681017310217276      19131714181210162220211115
                  10399Yes2008315341317290215323      22191521142012171611131018
                  104100Yes20083168101928290216295      17212212151116141918101320
                  105101Yes2008317810111331031122152    19221312142110181715201116
                  106102Yes2008318461621260217276      22101920131417122115181116
                  107103Yes20083198121629310217285      13201221111714161922181510
                  108104Yes20083202342028013020        17141615192120221210111318
                  109105Yes20083212162025310218257      17121822211119141615132010
                  110106Yes20083226892229013119        10121816191511221417132021
                  111-No200832336111931---------------------
                  112107Yes2008324121720213104321224    10221815131619122014171121
                  113108Yes2008325391315250218266      13202214161118191710122115
                  114109Yes20083269171827280218266      21151716121120221318191014
                  115110Yes20083277161826310218266      11131012222021141519171618
                  116111Yes2008328110182225021122161    14131822111615172119101220
                  117112Yes20083291223262931013119        14151312171122192021181610
                  118113Yes2008330671721300221209      15101722131211192016211814
                  119114Yes2008331351617240217285      19172216101315141218202111
                  120115Yes20084117912210217276   21151817161911131222141020
                  121116Yes200842121415223004620159  16191310221711182115122014
                  122117Yes20084391016193103730121  22141619111815132021121017
                  123118Yes2008441102126280218266   18221916151114121321172010
                  124119Yes200845131517223004716207  21221018121614201513191711
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                    WOW! I checked out your math and I think that you have a tough task. However, just because a task is tough doesn't mean it isn't worth trying to pursue. I have seem lottery wheels, software, etc and I can tell you one thing, THOSE THINGS ARE BUNK! Not because I haven't HIT yet, but because they suppose there is some way to bring order to a totally random event.

                    I can not find any information that says (save 1) that any of these system creators are actually, provable winners themselves. It is a crazy thing to sit in the seat of a jet aircraft and take lessons form someone who has no experience piloting the jet themselves! I have, like you put much study into the lottery, and I have found out the following:

                    * Powerball, going back 10 years, have NO statistical patterns for increasing your chance of winning and is truly more random than any state lottery. As you know, state lotteries typically have fewer #'s to pick from by 13. I don't say this because everyone else says it, I say this because I have done the math myself.

                    * There is mathmatical formulas that can increase your state lottery odds that I use that have yielded me, over the last 3 months an increase in wins. I have continually matched 3 of 6 and 4 of six.

                    * Picking the right #'s in the state lottery requires one to not pay as much attention to those #'s that were picked previously as much as focusing on the group of #'s I call 'Sub-Sets' which shows you how the value of those numbers you pick as a group and how they fit in to the overall value of your picks. For instance, alot of people pick #'s that come up the most and group them into 1 # set assuming those will come up, eventually. These numbers, at least here in Colorado have a sub-set value of between 45 and 60. Anything with a sub-set value of over 28 are likely NOT to come up.

                    * There was a guy who won Powerball in 2005 named Brad Duke and he said that he picked the right numbers by going back some months, doing some math, and playing those numbers. NOT! I reviewed his #'s, his method, his thought process and it just doesn't ad up! Brad just got blessed and should admit it. The 'Sub-Set' patterns in Powerball are truly a tough nut to crack but I am working on it.

                    * However, I do not believe that playing numbers sets like 1,2,3,4,5,6 are just as likely to come up as any other #'s. The math and picks over the last 10 years just don't bare that theory out.

                    * I would encourage all of you to NOT pick the same set of numbers and keep playing them HOPING they just come up. According to my math- you could do that for the next 6,183.5 years and still not Hit. Play wild number games with yourself. I yielded a 4 of 6 winner in state lottery by developing a 'Crossword' play.

                    In closing- for now anyway, although I am focused only on State Lottery here in Colorado- don't believe the HYPE in your state! Although I do not belive that there is any way of guaranteeing a win and despite what officials may say. You can increase your odds. $5.00 worth of well picked #'s can put you closer than $100.00 of poorly chosen #'s. I am proof of that.

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                      I am of the opposite opinion as this poster. I say- Jade- keep on keepin' on! As I said in another post, just because a goal seems tough, doesn't mean it isn't worth pursuing. We all know that lottery and casino officials have the best mathmaticians in the world working for them. IF JADE can prove something to them that they haven't previously thought of, I guarantee they will rethink the process.

                      Jade- keep dreamin' man and don't listen to what the naysayers on here say. I am sure some, especially the doubter will post a reply to this but there was a time when these same naysayers said the Earth was flat, there was a time when these same naysayers said anyone that believed someone who thought they could fly were nut cases. Einstein's theory of Space\time being the same thing and not Space & Time was met with much ridicule from the scientific community and now is accepted as fact. Not to mention going to the moon was thought to be science fiction up until 1961!

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                        teuffelhund37,

                        thank you for the input. this is just a small piece of a much larger project i've been working on in my spare time. i'm always thinking about something math, physics or programming related, even if it has nothing to do with the lottery. however, in piecing things together i noticed a lot of similarities in various studies that appeared to fit together. they worked amazingly well in describing other points of view in seemingly unrelated topics.

                        as i said, this is just a small piece of a much larger project. the best is yet to come. just keep an eye out for it.

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                          Update: I'm chugging along here with this Badger 5 data, however, I'm working several other projects at the same time and in the same subject matter. There's a possible topic morph in the works as it relates to this one.

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                            To be brief:

                             

                            Jade is right.... it can't be random.

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                              To be brief:

                               

                              Jade is right.... it can't be random.

                              OK, lets say he is right and somehow proved that is not random but manipulated....So next what do you do...I see only three options left for a player after these findings:

                              1) Not play this game anymore

                              2) Not play all the Wisconsion RNG games anymore

                              3) Write to lottery or newspapers and tell them to switch to balls (<<< this will in all likeliness be largely ignored as well as your claims that they are manipulating the games)

                              In my opinion if you have reason to beleive that something is manipulated and the odds of fixing it are not good then you are left with options 1 or 2 and not play lotto anymore...

                                 
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