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How do I prove my state lottery's CGNs are fixed?

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Posted: November 30, 2008, 8:33 pm - IP Logged

In the previous example, the color of the Quantum Points is a Gray Gradient from Light to Dark. The Darker the Quantum Point the more Probable you would likely find an actual data point. This is ok, but it doesn't clearly define what more probable than other areas of the graph. This is where a Color Gradient comes in. It helps with showing the more probable areas without taking away from the whole Quantum Point Graph. The following picture show how to read the graph's Color Gradient.

The scale is called Probability Density because the higher the value the more densely packed the data is in those areas. Next is the previous graph in a Color Gradient format.

From this it's even more obvious where the data is tending to be and how the data ebbs and flows as more data is collected.

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    JadeLottery, I wish I could read that stuff you're posting.

    Can you explain a little more?

    Are the pictures not showing or is it something else?

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      Can you explain a little more?

      Are the pictures not showing or is it something else?

      Those symbols in those equations.

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        Those symbols in those equations.

        ah, got ya. i'll try to keep it as simple as possible. however, i do like to give out the information for those that would like it. don't worry about the math stuff, just look over the whole thing to get a feel for what is being talked about. i'll present it in both ways if possible, so everyone can be in on it.

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          Posted: December 1, 2008, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

          Interesting graph --so how exactly are the equations related to the graph. are you trying to relate that greater the probablity density then choose in that area?

          How do the equations differ from normal distribution?

          there's log normal distribution ect.

          There are many forms of distribution.Please define your terms.

          I'd still perfer  pdfs of your posts containing explainations.

          In what book or books --are you using for reference material?

          Thank - you

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            Interesting graph --so how exactly are the equations related to the graph. are you trying to relate that greater the probablity density then choose in that area?

            How do the equations differ from normal distribution?

            there's log normal distribution ect.

            There are many forms of distribution.Please define your terms.

            I'd still perfer  pdfs of your posts containing explainations.

            In what book or books --are you using for reference material?

            Thank - you

            I haven't forgot about ya. I'm working out a display format for both the PDF's at my webspace and here at the Lottery Post.

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              Posted: December 10, 2008, 2:20 am - IP Logged

              The following work is still in progress.

              I'm just releasing what I have now and will update more later.

              You can also see the following posting in a PDF format at my website http://home.mchsi.com/~jadelottery.

              The post has to be in an image format here at the Lottery Post because of the displayed math equations.

              To see the equations better, visit my website for the PDF's.

              You will need Adobe Reader or Adobe Acrobat to view the PDF's and you can get it at http://www.adobe.com.

              The Reader is a free download.

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                Posted: December 11, 2008, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

                Firstly, thank you for the PDF. AS moving graphics don't print well. Solid things that can be printed I can view off line.

                Great !

                Some things I'm trying to answer:

                Many digital electronic book authors, have stated that the Normal distribution function equation can be used to derive uniform random numbers--like a rng does.

                One author: Steven W. Smith --Digital Signal Processing Isbn 0-750674-44-x

                He states that if the mean of the equation is .5 and the SD is the sqr(12)^-1 then x is supposed to uniform via Iterative recursion.

                Jade, would you please explain how quantum distribution is/could be involved to derive random variates?

                Thanks again...

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                  Firstly, thank you for the PDF. AS moving graphics don't print well. Solid things that can be printed I can view off line.

                  Great !

                  Some things I'm trying to answer:

                  Many digital electronic book authors, have stated that the Normal distribution function equation can be used to derive uniform random numbers--like a rng does.

                  One author: Steven W. Smith --Digital Signal Processing Isbn 0-750674-44-x

                  He states that if the mean of the equation is .5 and the SD is the sqr(12)^-1 then x is supposed to uniform via Iterative recursion.

                  Jade, would you please explain how quantum distribution is/could be involved to derive random variates?

                  Thanks again...

                  I'll get back to this probably next week.

                  I will be traveling to Wisconsin and possibly Illinois this weekend; in addition to finishing the Quantum Points PDF.

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                    Posted: December 18, 2008, 11:59 pm - IP Logged

                    you fail to answer the question of why any state would FIX the drawing of the numbers.  They take there cut of the money BEFORE the pay out on the big games. The odds of paying out on the daily 3 and 4 games is in there advantage. The have a money maker. Why would they do any thing to casue public mistrust????????   Most states are very happy making 300 to 400 million a year. 

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                      you fail to answer the question of why any state would FIX the drawing of the numbers.  They take there cut of the money BEFORE the pay out on the big games. The odds of paying out on the daily 3 and 4 games is in there advantage. The have a money maker. Why would they do any thing to casue public mistrust????????   Most states are very happy making 300 to 400 million a year. 

                      This post has never been about 'why' a state would fix a lottery drawing. This topic is about the detection of a possible fixation of draws relative to a players picks. If you'd like to open up that discussion with Lottery Post Members, we'd recommend you start a new topic about 'why a state would fix a drawing'.

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                        Posted: December 20, 2008, 10:54 am - IP Logged

                        Firstly, thank you for the PDF. AS moving graphics don't print well. Solid things that can be printed I can view off line.

                        Great !

                        Some things I'm trying to answer:

                        Many digital electronic book authors, have stated that the Normal distribution function equation can be used to derive uniform random numbers--like a rng does.

                        One author: Steven W. Smith --Digital Signal Processing Isbn 0-750674-44-x

                        He states that if the mean of the equation is .5 and the SD is the sqr(12)^-1 then x is supposed to uniform via Iterative recursion.

                        Jade, would you please explain how quantum distribution is/could be involved to derive random variates?

                        Thanks again...

                        I have not read the book Digital Signal Processing and currently many projects, home and work, are going to take up my time to do so. I can understand how the Normal Distribution can mimic a Random Selection. However, as you have stated, there is not enough information to understand the approach. I have posted before a topic that utilizes the normal distribution to mimic Random Selection with a known standard deviation. The topic is Random Number Transforms - Normal Distribution and has some Visual Basic code to generate normal distributed numbers for both analog and digital distributions.

                        In this topic, quantum points are not necessarily used to generate random selection. It's used to detect slight variations in the selection process that would not otherwise be obvious. There is however an off topic application that can utilize the normal distribution to generate random numbers and the topic Random Number Transforms - Normal Distribution is along the path. In addition, one of our other topics, JADE's Pick 3 Pick 4 Selector Now Available, will touch on that aspect of normal distribution to derive Quantum Point Selection.

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                          An update to my PDF's.

                          To see the equations better, visit my website for the PDF's.

                          The post has to be in an image format here at the Lottery Post because of the displayed math equations.

                          You can also see the following posting in a PDF format at my website http://home.mchsi.com/~jadelottery.

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                            Posted: December 27, 2008, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

                            Ok, this should be a final update on the Quantum Points for a while.

                            It's fairly complete so we can move on to the rest of this post.

                            Remember, you can see these in a PDF format at my website, http://home.mchsi.com/~jadelottery

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                              we're working out a few programming details.

                              working the equations on my system is taking a longer than expected processing time.

                              must be that each observed point has to be calculated for every possible xy point.

                              in a graph for 800 x 600, that's 480,000 individual xy points for each observed point.

                              it takes a fair amount of time to do the calculations.

                              we're trying a bit of C++ programming to get the job done quicker through a DLL function.

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