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How do I prove my state lottery's CGNs are fixed?

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Does 'fixed' mean 'not evenly distributed' or does 'fixed' mean 'responds in some way' to what combos are played?'

time*treat,

Fixed can have different meanings to the person reading this topic, as you have pointed out. However, in this topic 'fixed' refers to the alteration of the normal random selection of numbers relative to the number being played for that day's drawing. An alteration can be a very subtle change in the number, number sub-combinations or number combination as to produce a selection that can be correlated to the numbers being played.

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    Right now we're at 77 successful posted wheels for Experiment 2. I'll make a 90 posting/draws update some time after 2008-03-06, the 90 successful postings date. At this point, 4 postings are missing due to personal, computer and LP server related issues. Experiment 2 would have ended 2008-03-02 were it not for these missed wheel postings. We'll keep posting wheels and make an update every 90 successful wheel postings till possibly the end of this year.

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      We'll update the status of Exp. 2 later this week.

      2008-03-03 was the 90th successful post.

      There is a change, however, in the posted wheels.

      The same numbers are being used in the wheel, {10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22}.

      Instead of having a fixed set of 10 wheels, numbered {0 to 9}, all the numbers are randomly scrambled by position and then inserted in to the wheel.

      Example, last night's posted wheel (2008-03-04) had its numbers scrambled to {13, 14, 16, 20, 22, 12, 18, 10, 15, 21, 11, 19, 17}, then inserted in to a base wheel, listed below. Each number is inserted in to the wheel in the order as it is listed. In the wheel, the number 1 is replaced by 13, number 2 is replaced by 14, number 3 is replaced by 16, ... number 12 is replaced by 19 and number 13 is replace by 17. This scramble insertion will remain in effect for the remainder of the year.

       

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        We're lost in a sea of information.

        Actually, 2008-03-06 is the 90th successful draw, but that's ok.

        We've been using wheel 0 to post our number anyway even though the numbers are scrambled and using the exact same numbers.

        We'll continue the scramble postings anyway.

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          Here is the data obtained so far for this 90 successful draw set for dates from 2007-12-04 to 2008-03-06; additional information to follow.

           

          Index 0Index 1PostedYearMonthDayABCDEWM012345Scramble Order
          11Yes200712424111522031223114                             
          22Yes20071251292029013119                                 
          33Yes2007126412141620046182042                           
          44Yes200712711213151804322205                             
          55Yes200712818102830013119                                 
          66Yes20071293101326310221209                               
          77Yes200712102562225013119                                 
          88Yes2007121151113162593102218                               
          99Yes2007121218121620031025123                             
          1010Yes200712139111724264217285                               
          1111Yes200712145182130313217267                               
          1212Yes20071215791216288218266                               
          1313Yes2007121678111319231026104                             
          1414Yes200712172472128313020                                 
          1515Yes2007121818202426308219238                               
          1616Yes2007121915162330713119                                 
          1717Yes20071220492021247218266                               
          1818Yes20071221812151826031023161                             
          1919Yes200712221251923413119                                 
          2020Yes20071223313232428813119                                 
          2121Yes20071224571220277218266                               
          2222Yes2007122511618193143926141                             
          2323Yes2007122612132327311219247                               
          2424Yes20071227161821253093927122                             
          2525Yes2007122814523276050                                   
          2626Yes2007122979192427713119                                 
          2727Yes2007123079102326113020                                 
          2828Yes20071231891922305218266                               
          2929Yes20081168132628013119                                 
          3030Yes200812420263031913119                                 
          3131Yes200813191011235218266                               
          3232Yes20081456212629013119                                 
          33-No200815214151922---------------------
          34-No200816716232731---------------------
          3533Yes200817367820013119                                 
          36-No2008185891115---------------------
          3734Yes20081938172530013119                                 
          3835Yes2008110913171925331122161                             
          3936Yes200811161012151964520196                             
          4037Yes2008112111416193064321215                             
          4138Yes200811313102122831025132                             
          4239Yes2008114121720212924521168                             
          4340Yes20081151122024298217276                               
          4441Yes200811639203031613119                                 
          4542Yes20081171525262831913119                                 
          4643Yes20081183459271050                                   
          4744Yes200811924611178219238                               
          4845Yes20081206232730315050                                   
          4946Yes200812110111720222521617141                           
          5047Yes200812241011152224518225                             
          5148Yes200812315112427213119                                 
          5249Yes20081245161724319218266                               
          5350Yes20081251123262830913020                                 
          5451Yes200812612172531213119                                 
          5552Yes2008127714242730813119                                 
          56-No20081281262029---------------------
          5753Yes2008129101619222504223214                             
          5854Yes20081301112026307219247                               
          5955Yes20081311114151824546182051                           
          6056Yes2008211351023913119                                 
          6157Yes200822310151820345221481                           
          6258Yes200823212242628713119                                 
          6359Yes2008242891623013020                                 
          6460Yes200825131720223004619187                             
          6561Yes2008262111723243219247                               
          6662Yes2008271517192127143241661                           
          6763Yes200828712131922847191671                           
          6864Yes200829342122276216304                               
          6965Yes20082101210141513828122                             
          7066Yes2008211141317304218266                               
          7167Yes2008212791113243219247                               
          7268Yes2008213181720231219238                               
          7369Yes2008214351012316218266                               
          7470Yes200821534162931813119                                 
          7571Yes20082164671929813119                                 
          7672Yes2008217612172130531220162                             
          7773Yes20082181489246050                                   
          7874Yes2008219691220302218266                               
          7975Yes2008220411162127131024142                             
          8076Yes2008221131415203114519215                             
          8177Yes200822251416192224519197                             
          8278Yes2008223491217194363392                             
          8379Yes20082246891730113020                                 
          8480Yes2008225514192129431025123                             
          8581Yes200822621117182703926132                             
          8682Yes200822721315203163829103                             
          8783Yes200822871112141894320234                             
          8884Yes2008229161722280218266                               
          8985Yes20083125142328113119                                 
          9086Yes200832791516300219238                               
          9187Yes200833212192025331222124                             
          9288Yes2008341161720280318266      13141620221218101521111917
          9389Yes2008351252231013119        16131810191412172111221520
          9490Yes20083616926310050          18201719131011161421221512

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            While working the numbers on this last update, I've come across a few interesting things. I'll get back to this in a few days to see how and where this is headed. Unreasonable is a word that can best describe what I'm seeing. To be continued...

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              Alright, I think I can post some additional information. First is the update from the last post.

               

              Data Stream ChronoBadger 5 DrawWheel, Matched Draw #'s, Line Match DistributionScramble Order
              (Implemented 2008-03-04)
              Index 0Index 1PostedYearMonthDayABCDEWM01234512345678910111213
              9591Yes20083714912130216304      20151014221319121711181621
              9692Yes20083811014182104325148    14101917122021111522181613
              9793Yes200839111922242903102218      10171312142016151911222118
              9894Yes2008310715222629019247        20122211171914102116181513
              9995Yes200831111132021240422186      22131715111216101921182014
              10096Yes2008312315172728016304        15161019221311201221181714
              10197Yes200831324782203119          15102219111816121714202113
              10298Yes200831468101731018266        19131714181210162220211115
              10399Yes200831534131729017285        22191521142012171611131018
              104100Yes2008316810192829016295        17212212151116141918101320
              105101Yes200831781011133101122152      19221312142110181715201116
              106102Yes200831846162126017276        22101920131417122115181116
              107103Yes2008319812162931017285        13201221111714161922181510
              108104Yes2008320234202803020          17141615192120221210111318
              109105Yes2008321216202531018257        17121822211119141615132010
              110106Yes2008322689222903119          10121816191511221417132021

               

              I've gone back a looked at the entire Badger 5 draws and did an analysis for a moving draw span of 170 draws. I then applied the Simple BMA out to Iteration 8 to get the average Fluctuations for those draw spans; I also analyzed the wheel numbers the same way. I then created an animation of the changing graphs to show how this moving 170 draw span looks over time. Below is a link to my YouTube site where the animation is. As you are watching this, please note the following:

              1. the left hand y-axis shows the scale for the Badger 5 Fluctuation distribution.

              2. the right hand y-axis shows the scale for the Wheel Fluctuation distribution.

              3. the bottom x-axis shows the scale for the Badger 5 numbers.

              4. the top title shows the range of draw span in the Badger 5 draws.

              5. there are some calibration lines in the background that show the average for the Badger 5 Fluctuation and the standard deviations from that line.

              6. the gray line in the background is the average.

              7. the light blue line is the 1st standard deviation from the average.

              8. the light green line is the 2nd standard deviation from the average.

              9. the light red line is the 3rd standard deviation from the average.

              10. the dark red line is the Badger 5 number distribution fluctuation.

              11. the dark blue line is the Wheel number distribution fluctuation.

              Graph animation --> http://www.youtube.com/v/VfYxlTZYE8c

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                If it is at all possible, lotteries may be rigged to provide one of two outcomes - either certain numbers played by those who do the rigging can be selected or the most popular numbers selected can be eliminated from the draw - and keep in mind that around 70% of all tickets purchased in any lottery will be quick picks. With the second possibility in mind data like this can be analyzed to eliminate certain numbers from non-QP selections to maximize the winning possibilities. Interesting thread - KUTGW.

                gl

                I like this point

                You can have the most mathematically

                correct results for a particular day from the finest software on the market that still won't

                assure unfettered drawing procedures(glitch-prevention.)

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                  If your statistics can show which numbers those fixing the lottery are playing, perhaps you should play those numbers as well.

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                    If your statistics can show which numbers those fixing the lottery are playing, perhaps you should play those numbers as well.

                    I given that much thought. That's why I think BOT Picking might be the way. A BOT, short for roBOT, can be programmed the pick up on those kinds of subtle things to hack the lottery's computer picking method, fixed or not.

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                      If the link for the graph animation doesn't work, try this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYxlTZYE8c

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                        I given that much thought. That's why I think BOT Picking might be the way. A BOT, short for roBOT, can be programmed the pick up on those kinds of subtle things to hack the lottery's computer picking method, fixed or not.

                        JAde, i respect your knowledge in mathematics and computer programming but in my opinion you are going overboard with this thing....most likely you will never "prove" anything, even if you come close the state will still ignore you...everyone aknowledged that there was a problem in tennesse and they didnt do anything about the situaton so....on the other hand if you are trying so hard to figure a statistical way to win just "keep it simple"...

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                          JAde, i respect your knowledge in mathematics and computer programming but in my opinion you are going overboard with this thing....most likely you will never "prove" anything, even if you come close the state will still ignore you...everyone aknowledged that there was a problem in tennesse and they didnt do anything about the situaton so....on the other hand if you are trying so hard to figure a statistical way to win just "keep it simple"...

                          State ignore me?   I'm counting on it. Thumbs Up

                          Never prove anything?   Well, as long as I prove it to myself, that's all I need. Wink

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                            Sorry, posted a program test sheet by mistake.

                            Here's the actual update from my post earlier this week.

                             

                            Data Stream ChronoBadger 5 DrawWheel, Matched Draw #'s, Line Match DistributionScrable Order
                            (Implemented 2008-03-04)
                            Index 0Index 1PostedYearMonthDayABCDEWM01234512345678910111213
                            9591Yes20083714912130216304      20151014221319121711181621
                            9692Yes20083811014182104325148    14101917122021111522181613
                            9793Yes200839111922242903102218      10171312142016151911222118
                            9894Yes20083107152226290219247      20122211171914102116181513
                            9995Yes20083111113202124045192141  22131715111216101921182014
                            10096Yes20083123151727280217285      15161019221311201221181714
                            10197Yes2008313247822013119        15102219111816121714202113
                            10298Yes2008314681017310217276      19131714181210162220211115
                            10399Yes2008315341317290215323      22191521142012171611131018
                            104100Yes20083168101928290216295      17212212151116141918101320
                            105101Yes2008317810111331031122152    19221312142110181715201116
                            106102Yes2008318461621260217276      22101920131417122115181116
                            107103Yes20083198121629310217285      13201221111714161922181510
                            108104Yes20083202342028013020        17141615192120221210111318
                            109105Yes20083212162025310218257      17121822211119141615132010
                            110106Yes20083226892229013119        10121816191511221417132021
                            111-No200832336111931---------------------
                            112107Yes2008324121720213104321224    10221815131619122014171121
                            113108Yes2008325391315250218266      13202214161118191710122115

                             

                            Graph animation --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfYxlTZYE8c

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                              The Quantum Master
                              West Concord, MN
                              United States
                              Member #21
                              December 7, 2001
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                              Posted: March 29, 2008, 2:30 am - IP Logged

                              Boy I tell ya.

                              If there are any people in Wisconsin monitoring and playing the Badger 5, there is some major anomaly galore going on here.

                              I won't say too much here, but dee-amn.

                              Tell ya what, how about we out Flank 'em?

                              While I'm distracting them, team up, a few of you go Left and some go Right, then radio when you're in position.

                              I'll set of the flash bang distracter system.

                              Right you lob a few smoke grenade diffusion systems at 'em.

                              Left you rush in full fire attack systems.

                              Presented 'AS IS' and for Entertainment Purposes Only.
                              Any gain or loss is your responsibility.
                              Use at your own risk.

                              Order is a Subset of Chaos
                              Knowledge is Beyond Belief
                              Wisdom is Not Censored
                              Douglas Paul Smallish
                              Jehocifer

                                 
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