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RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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Posted: November 7, 2008, 9:40 pm - IP Logged

These are my picks for tonight's drawings. I used similar parameters to those I've used before but a little wider.

  1. 01 08 25 31 45 +12
  2. 07 09 24 34 44 +21
  3. 12 28 38 52 55 +44
  4. 05 26 29 35 49 +11
  5. 06 17 19 22 41 +22
  6. 10 13 27 42 46 +35
  7. 02 15 16 30 50 +39
  8. 18 21 32 36 54 +01
  9. 08 29 33 51 55 +30
 10. 10 11 31 32 44 +02
 11. 13 23 33 36 39 +38
 12. 12 30 43 45 54 +41
 13. 01 23 27 34 51 +42
 14. 06 21 38 42 49 +10
 15. 05 15 19 24 46 +04
 16. 07 16 25 28 48 +05
 17. 21 22 30 40 53 +37
 18. 09 15 17 28 48 +15
 19. 22 31 38 45 51 +09
 20. 17 24 43 44 52 +34

The recent results of my picks have proved that my system has no advantages over any other system so I may take some time off to reconsider how I'm picking my combinations.

 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
   
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    I had developed a similar system for Mega PB Cash5 and some games, but it has not performed as well as other methods. I found that simple frequency on PowerBall will give a slight advantage but not enough to make profit unless you will win the jackpot or major prize. Whatever system is used should be backtested. the only problem with playing a system that others can come up with independently is if you do win you will share with many others, as happened to me on Cash 5 a few years ago. Your system should have some unique twist that maybe nobody else would think of. One system I have better luck with is this: from a list of n drawings back, randomly choose an x value 1 to 5 and a y value 1 to depth. Take the number listed at x,y, and do this for the first 5 (tossing out duplicate numbers), and then another random y for the Bonus Ball. You will get unique sets of numbers this way:

    Here is my sample, but only 5 lines, output from my PocketPC program:

    NEW JERSEY LOTTERY
    MEGA MILLIONS

     02 19 26 30 46 BB 23
     24 30 31 45 52 BB 27
     37 39 45 48 51 BB 09
     02 24 28 47 49 BB 02
     08 16 38 40 54 BB 36

    FORECAST 11/7/2008

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      03,04,38,46,49+42
      03,08,24,44,52+24
      03,10,17,51,56+12
      03,11,20,37,55+25
      03,18,41,53,54+22
      03,21,23,31,40+32
      04,37,38,46,52+27
      04,10,31,37,54+28
      04,11,24,53,56+26
      04,17,23,41,52+17
      04,40,44,51,55+33
      08,10,20,23,52+18
      08,10,40,49,53+30
      08,11,17,31,46+02
      08,23,54,55,56+37
      08,37,38,41,51+16
      10,18,46,52,55+21
      10,20,23,24,38+25
      11,18,23,38,55+40
      17,20,44,49,54+09

      "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

        RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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        Posted: November 7, 2008, 11:55 pm - IP Logged

        Tonight's winning numbers were: 14 24 32 43 44  +21

          1. 01 08 25 31 45 +12
          2. 07 09 24 34 44 +21
          3. 12 28 38 52 55 +44
          4. 05 26 29 35 49 +11
          5. 06 17 19 22 41 +22
          6. 10 13 27 42 46 +35
          7. 02 15 16 30 50 +39
          8. 18 21 32 36 54 +01
          9. 08 29 33 51 55 +30
         10. 10 11 31 32 44 +02
         11. 13 23 33 36 39 +38
         12. 12 30 43 45 54 +41
         13. 01 23 27 34 51 +42
         14. 06 21 38 42 49 +10
         15. 05 15 19 24 46 +04
         16. 07 16 25 28 48 +05
         17. 21 22 30 40 53 +37
         18. 09 15 17 28 48 +15
         19. 22 31 38 45 51 +09
         20. 17 24 43 44 52 +34

        I had 4of5 WB to matched 2+1 and 3+0 for $17 of $20 spent.

         * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
           
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          Posted: November 8, 2008, 8:42 am - IP Logged

          Nice going Rj, congrats!!  I only had 2 wb's and the mb for an 0+1:

           

          03,04,38,46,49+42
          03,08,24,44,52+24
          03,10,17,51,56+12
          03,11,20,37,55+25
          03,18,41,53,54+22
          03,21,23,31,40+32
          04,37,38,46,52+27
          04,10,31,37,54+28
          04,11,24,53,56+26
          04,17,23,41,52+17
          04,40,44,51,55+33
          08,10,20,23,52+18
          08,10,40,49,53+30
          08,11,17,31,46+02
          08,23,54,55,56+37
          08,37,38,41,51+16
          10,18,46,52,55+21
          10,20,23,24,38+25
          11,18,23,38,55+40
          17,20,44,49,54+09

           

          20-linesplayedplayed  best 
          date  25-wb's20-mb's  combo
          27-Sep210+1
          30-Sep101+0
          3-Oct000+0
          7-Oct201+0
          10-Oct201+0
          14-OctDNPDNPDNP
          17-OctDNPDNPDNP
          21-Oct010+1
          24-Oct302+0
          28-Oct413+0 / 1+1
          31-Oct111+1
          4-Nov410+1
          7-Nov210+1
                 

          "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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            Last night's winning MM numbers had no numbers from the previous five drawings.  This has happened 7 times this year and a total of 33 times since the last matrix change 352 drawings ago which is 9.4% of the time.  That is significant enough that I may have to rethink some of the parameters I use to make my picks.

            The above post concerned the 11/04 drawing but last night drawing didn't have any numbers from the previous four drawings which included 19 numbers.  Every one of my picks has 1-3 of those numbers.  Had I eliminated the numbers in the previous 5 drawings , I would have eliminated 23 numbers and only one of them was in last night drawing.  Using the same logic I've been using this whole run I managed to cover 4of5 of the winning numbers and get a couple of wins so I may have to do more back testing before making any significant changes to my system.

            When I look at the last 300 drawings 109 of the winning numbers included at least one number from the previous drawing and 243 of the winning numbers included one or more numbers from the previous four drawings.

             * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
               
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              Posted: November 8, 2008, 3:45 pm - IP Logged

              I had developed a similar system for Mega PB Cash5 and some games, but it has not performed as well as other methods. I found that simple frequency on PowerBall will give a slight advantage but not enough to make profit unless you will win the jackpot or major prize. Whatever system is used should be backtested. the only problem with playing a system that others can come up with independently is if you do win you will share with many others, as happened to me on Cash 5 a few years ago. Your system should have some unique twist that maybe nobody else would think of. One system I have better luck with is this: from a list of n drawings back, randomly choose an x value 1 to 5 and a y value 1 to depth. Take the number listed at x,y, and do this for the first 5 (tossing out duplicate numbers), and then another random y for the Bonus Ball. You will get unique sets of numbers this way:

              Here is my sample, but only 5 lines, output from my PocketPC program:

              NEW JERSEY LOTTERY
              MEGA MILLIONS

               02 19 26 30 46 BB 23
               24 30 31 45 52 BB 27
               37 39 45 48 51 BB 09
               02 24 28 47 49 BB 02
               08 16 38 40 54 BB 36

              FORECAST 11/7/2008

              It's likely back testing a system will only show you what it would have done then if only you had known then what you know now and what you know now may not help you with future drawings.

              "the only problem with playing a system that others can come up with independently is if you do win you will share with many others", as happened to me on Cash 5 a few years ago.  Your system should have some unique twist...."

              If your system won the jackpot in any lottery game then it was unique regardless of the number of other winners.  Players have been coming up with schemes to beat lotteries for years and yet there are seldom multi-able jackpot winners in any of them.  Lottery jackpot are won by having the winning numbers, how you pick those numbers doesn't matter.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Nice hits RJ! 

                Result: 14-24-32-43-44  +21

                1. 02-12-24-40-51 +36
                2. 02-17-26-43-54 +9
                3. 02-18-23-32-34 +21
                4. 04-05-22-35-46 +40
                5. 04-17-30-43-51 +35
                6. 04-24-34-44-50 +23
                7. 05-14-23-40-50 +34
                8. 05-16-25-43-44 +37
                9. 07-09-23-25-40 +38
                10. 07-16-24-35-53 +4
                11. 07-18-30-39-46 +44
                12. 09-22-24-26-43 +39
                13. 12-13-23-43-53 +22
                14. 13-14-26-44-46 +30
                15. 13-18-34-35-40 +2
                16. 14-22-33-34-53 +26
                17. 14-25-32-35-51 +5
                18. 16-17-22-40-54 +18
                19. 16-23-34-39-51 +46
                20. 17-23-26-35-50 +28

                Managed to get all 5 WB's in my 30 number pool using followers. I picked up a 1+1, five 2+0's and seven 1+0's.

                The tickets I filtered out had a few additional 2+0's, but no better hits than that. No loss there.

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                  the only problem with playing a system that others can come up with independently is if you do win you will share with many others, as happened to me on Cash 5 a few years ago

                  Well I would look at it this way.. If you choose the same number set of numbers as many others you will all win the jackpot, but if you had added some twist to your system that chose a different set of numbers for that drawing, everyone else would have still won and you would not have won because your twist chose different numbers.  I think it would be better to play whatever system you feel most confident about and not worry about how many others might be using that system.  Better to have a small piece of the pie than no piece at all.

                  Also, say RJ and I here both decided to use the same system to create numbers for a MM drawing and we both bought tickets that won a jackpot..  Even if 3 other members here used the same set of numbers because they saw them on the site, we would split a minimum of 12 million each.  Not a problem for me :)

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                    the only problem with playing a system that others can come up with independently is if you do win you will share with many others, as happened to me on Cash 5 a few years ago

                    A few years ago when all those PB players got a 5+0 because they played numbers from a fortune cookie, not one of them said they wished they had not played those numbers because others played them too.  I try to pick numbers  and combinations I think will be drawn, not those other won't lay.

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                      A system that has an RNG component will generate different combos even when many people are using it and working the same data set.

                      This is how commercial lottery progs (and a few investment scams) work, and how they can claim so many winners.

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                        A system that has an RNG component will generate different combos even when many people are using it and working the same data set.

                        This is how commercial lottery progs (and a few investment scams) work, and how they can claim so many winners.

                        Even when players aren't using a RNG but wheeling the same numbers using the same wheel, unless it's a full wheel the results are likely to be different. 

                        If you've followed this thread then you have observed some participants getting all 5 winning numbers and the bonus number in their pools and the only winning combination they had was a 0+l, someone else might have gotten a 5+1.

                        Having all the winning numbers in a pool of 30 or so is fine but arranging them into 20 combinations that have a winner or two is the real objective.

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                          Here are some statistics for the draw Friday.

                          Draw: 14-24-32-43-44
                          Sum: 157
                          Range: 30
                          Spaces: 10,8,11,1
                          'Gaps': BCCDD

                          All were within my filter specifications, so we'll go with the same for Tuesday. My pics will be:

                          WB: 2,5,46,22,33,36,27,48,40,7,24,51,53,12,14,19,20,25,41,6,15,31,44,50,52,4,11,38,45,8
                          MB: 16,21,23,36,9,38,35,4,44,30,37,7,40,2,39,22,13,46,27,17

                          FILTERS:

                          > SUMS:   110-190
                          > RANGES: 30-52
                          > SPACES: 1-23
                          > GAP:
                          - 1 - A/B
                          - 2 - A/B/C
                          - 3 - B/C/D
                          - 4 - C/D/E
                          - 5 - D/E

                          These filters allow 45.17% of past winners through.  Still not happy with that percentage, but we'll play them nevertheless.

                          1. 02-08-27-41-52 +16
                          2. 02-12-20-38-51 +21
                          3. 02-14-24-40-44 +23
                          4. 02-19-25-46-50 +36
                          5. 02-20-33-40-48 +9
                          6. 04-05-24-33-46 +38
                          7. 05-11-25-36-44 +35
                          8. 05-19-38-40-52 +4
                          9. 05-20-27-31-48 +44
                          10. 06-12-24-45-48 +30
                          11. 06-12-27-40-46 +37
                          12. 06-27-33-36-38 +7
                          13. 08-22-36-40-48 +40
                          14. 08-31-33-41-53 +2
                          15. 11-14-22-41-46 +39
                          16. 11-19-31-40-51 +22
                          17. 14-19-27-45-53 +13
                          18. 14-25-33-48-51 +46
                          19. 15-24-25-38-53 +27
                          20. 22-25-31-45-52 +17

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                            The above post concerned the 11/04 drawing but last night drawing didn't have any numbers from the previous four drawings which included 19 numbers.  Every one of my picks has 1-3 of those numbers.  Had I eliminated the numbers in the previous 5 drawings , I would have eliminated 23 numbers and only one of them was in last night drawing.  Using the same logic I've been using this whole run I managed to cover 4of5 of the winning numbers and get a couple of wins so I may have to do more back testing before making any significant changes to my system.

                            When I look at the last 300 drawings 109 of the winning numbers included at least one number from the previous drawing and 243 of the winning numbers included one or more numbers from the previous four drawings.

                            RJ,

                            Are you familiar with Ion Saliu's FFG. 50% degree of certainty for a 5/56 game is 7.4 trials. That is, 50% of the numbrs will have been drawn in the last 7.4 games (on average).  In the above, if you change your last 4 or 5 games to the last 7 or 8 games, you should, on average, have half your numbers for the next game. If you then include the numbers which haven't been drawn in the last 2 * 7.4 (15) games, you should have 80% of the numbers.

                            In the Australian Powerball 5/45 game which I play, 50% DC is 5.9 games. I enlarge that slightly to 7 games,  and get the following stats.

                            Skips less than or equal to 7 = 1921 61 %
                            Skips less than or equal to 14 = 704 22 %
                            Skips greater than 14 = 540 17 %

                            So I expect to see 4 hits in my pool 83% of the time.

                            If you look at your last 300 drawings, thats 1500 numbers,  slightly more than 50% of those numbers should have appeared in the previous 8 drawings.

                            Amanda

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                              Amanda,

                              I'm familiar with many of Ion Saliu's programs but not that one. 

                              I maintain files on all the games I play so the figures I uses are based on actual observations rather than a calculation.  Presently in MegaMillions only, all 56 numbers have appeared at least once in the last 55 drawings, in the past since the last matrix change that has happened in as few as 26 drawings and in as many as 76 drawings.  The norm is some where between 30-43 drawings.  When I look back 300 drawings, I'm actually looking at a group of previous drawings for each of those 300 drawings not 300 drawings one time.

                              I've found that even though the PowerBall and MegaMillions games are similar, the behavior of numbers in those games are different so I pick numbers and combinations to play MM based on just the MM game history. I'm not trying to develop a strategy for all lottery games, just MM.

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