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Here Is The Proof Your Lottery, Mega Millions and Powerball is Cheating You

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Posted: September 28, 2008, 9:47 am - IP Logged

Thanks lotterybraker for all of your hard work and efforts.  It is truly appreciated.

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    Why bite the hand that feeds you?

    Exposing a scandal and shutting down the Lotteries Nationwide (Worldwide) will close a source of income to many people who are now making a living off of the Lottery.

    A mind once stretched by a new idea never returns to its original dimensions!

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      Posted: September 28, 2008, 10:15 am - IP Logged

      Why bite the hand that feeds you?

      Exposing a scandal and shutting down the Lotteries Nationwide (Worldwide) will close a source of income to many people who are now making a living off of the Lottery.

      Raven,

      Who makes a living off the lottery? I would especially like to know who on LP does nothing else but play the lottery for their income (so I can pick their brain). The game (at least to me) seems to be setup to take a buck or two from a whole bunch of people that are casual players who are gambling on making a big score, or even a few hundred dollars. With that said, the "house" should always win without having to do anything but play the game fairly. And by the way (for my two cents worth). I do think the lottery has some "fixing" mechanisms in place just like horse and dog racing, the markets, casinos...etc... 

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        I have read the statement, but I guess nobody is ever going to be happy until you make more at gambling than you pay out....I have known that there are pretest for the machines for quite awhile....I would think that it would be a rule I would have put in myself.

        Even with a coin flip, if the person holding the coin jingles it in his hand before the next flip, doesn't that affect the out come of the next flip...If you watch football you always see the fielf goal kicker practicing on the sidelines,,,did he just alter the outcome of the next field goal....does the roulette wheel start at the point where it stopped? Does it always have the same force on the spin?

        I dont play that much on the lottery,  I don't play pic 3 or 4 at all.  These are all games of chance,,,,to which, when I hear that, means that I have about 99% chance of failing.....with 176 million outcomes in MM I am not going to get to deep into how they rig the game more...I would think if they wanted to win more they would eliminate the random pics...Which by the way win more because they sell more...

        Good Luck on your quest to make sure that the numbers that come out constantly pay out.

        "Everybody has to believe in something...I believe I'll have another beer!"   = W.C.Fields                      

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          Posted: September 28, 2008, 10:44 am - IP Logged

          Thanks lotterybraker for your post. It describes what many players are unaware of  the pretests. Even still there are players who bet without information, believing the game is fixed but betting anyway. Fact is in the lottery or horse racing if the game is fixed or legit a player can still identify trends or patterns and make a profit, providing they reduce the odds to a reasonable advantage. Ask yourself do you really believe they need to fix the powerball game? The odds of winning are astronomical to begin with. Actually any tampering with the powerball game would give an advantage to the player since any biases would be easily identified.

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            Posted: September 28, 2008, 10:48 am - IP Logged

            Why bite the hand that feeds you?

            Exposing a scandal and shutting down the Lotteries Nationwide (Worldwide) will close a source of income to many people who are now making a living off of the Lottery.

            Raven..like I have always said..I am not trying to destroy the lottery..only make it Fair..I look at it this way..if you are GOING TO GAMBLE..you at LEAST HAVE a chance to win..not sit there and see your number you are playing being taken out of the machine and have it called a test draw..

             

            It would be the EXACT SAMETHING as you walking into a casino and walk up to a slot machine and put 3 quarters in the slot machine ..pull the handle and hit 3 ,7's and that slot machine starts lighting up the lights..blinking on and off and it going ding,ding,ding,ding,,ding,ding,ding...you think you are going to win some money and a CASINO WORKER comes over there and says..."Sorry Maam, we are testing this machine and we are not going to pay you"... now,  I ask you...wouldnt that piss you off, It should piss you off..I know it would piss me off...because when you make a bet on ANYTHING...ANYTHING AT A;LL, you are betting on the Next Outcome..PERIOD!!!!!

             

            the lottery will always be RANDOM..SINCE YOU DO NOT HAVE ESP..I do not have ESP..noone you know has ESP..NOONE ON THIS PLANET HAS ESP..therefore the LOTTERY WILL ALWAYS BE RANDOM..as soon as they flip that switch and the balls start moving it is AUTOMATIC INSTANT RANDOM..

             

            THE SECRET THAT I AM SHARING WITH EVERYONE IS THIS..the test draws BELONG TO THE SAME RANDOM REPEATING FIELD AS THE PAYING DRAWS..ITS THE SAME NUMBERS..THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU SUPER IMPOSE THOSE TEST DRAWS ON TOP OF THE PAYING DRAWS ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING WILL RUN FASTER..BECAUSE IT IS THE SAME FIXED RANDOM REPEATING FIELD RUNNING..

             

            That means onething and onething only...NATURAL RANDOM WILL RUN FASTER THAN TAMPERED...

            Like the Federal Officials told me.."The States Deserve whatever they Get"...they have been cheating you and everyone in your state that plays the lottery..

            my suggestion to you IF YOU WANT TO WIN..is ONE OF TWO THINGS..make them STOP THE PRETEST DRAWS..or give you access to them so you will know what has showed and what hasnt showed..

            "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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              Posted: September 28, 2008, 11:00 am - IP Logged

              Nice work Lotterybraker!!!

              I've taken a quick "glance" at the testdraws in TX midday.

              Andi was planning on looking at more info, but i only needed to view thestatistics on the straight pairs to feel my hairs in the back of myneck rising...

              Two of the top missing pairs are 27 and 19
              27 : X27   2X7   27X --> missing for 138 draws on september 25
              19: X19    1X9   19X --> missing for 93 draws on september 25

              Draws (official) since september 25:

              949
              221
              171

              So those pairs are still missing...

              Are they really?

              Testdraws:

              09/27/2008Test# 1F*A50*A56*A51*DA57A53A555049
               Test# 2F*A50*A56*A51*DA57A53A5543310
               Test# 3F*A50*A56*A51*DA57A53A552 7 514
               Test# 4F*A50*A56*A51*DA57A53A551809
              09/26/2008Test# 1F*A58*A51*A56*DA55A52A5075214
               Test# 2F*A58*A51*A56*DA55A52A5081 9 18
               Test# 3F*A58*A51*A56*DA55A52A502169
               Test# 4F*A58*A51*A56*DA55A52A502507

               

              Those pairs have come in, one might keep playing them until hell freezes down.

              They are now officially missing for 140 draws and 95 draws.... yet, they have shown up...

              However this will at first glance be very disturbing to some (me, chaz, cps10, carbob and others who use such statistics, but especially chaz --> Time Due),
              it might be considered a "blessing" that those testdraws are available on the official website.
              Since now it is possible to get some real statistics.
              Not sure yet how to implement these and use them, but i will most certainly spent some time on this.

               

              Then again, do they post all the testdraws...?...

               

              cheers
              Ricky

              Thanks Paurths...this is exactly why they do it..States know that if you are anyone keep up with the numbers they can cost the lottery some money so they take out the test draws to MESS UP RANDOMS NATURAL FLOW,,,natural random will run much faster than tampered..that includes POSITIONAL LOCKS on pairs in any and all positions..now like I said..if they take out the test draws they can get it to show in those test draws then it is gone until it comes back..they can hide exact straights for a VERY LONG TIME..!!!!

               

              if you are looking for something and YOU HAVE NO IDEA IT HAS SHOWED then what happens..PEOPLE WILL KEEP PLAYING IT..because you hear them say..well I like that number it has never showed straight..well it probably has, people just dont get to see it..

              "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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                Posted: September 28, 2008, 11:28 am - IP Logged

                Thanks Paurths...this is exactly why they do it..States know that if you are anyone keep up with the numbers they can cost the lottery some money so they take out the test draws to MESS UP RANDOMS NATURAL FLOW,,,natural random will run much faster than tampered..that includes POSITIONAL LOCKS on pairs in any and all positions..now like I said..if they take out the test draws they can get it to show in those test draws then it is gone until it comes back..they can hide exact straights for a VERY LONG TIME..!!!!

                 

                if you are looking for something and YOU HAVE NO IDEA IT HAS SHOWED then what happens..PEOPLE WILL KEEP PLAYING IT..because you hear them say..well I like that number it has never showed straight..well it probably has, people just dont get to see it..

                Lotterybraker, what is your next step?

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                  Posted: September 28, 2008, 11:44 am - IP Logged

                  Hurray!I am totally impressed and would love to talk to you - message me I'd love to find a way to go after the lottery officals for this - this is fascinating!  I applaud you!

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                    Posted: September 28, 2008, 11:48 am - IP Logged

                    RedDog..I am not a Lawyer..in fact, I am not even sure if someone living in another state can file a law suit in a different state..as I mentioned in the video..all I can do is provide you the public with the information..thats all I can do..IT IS UP to you the PUBLIC on how you deal with this information..

                     

                    and even if they come out and say..WELL..THESE ARE OUR RULES..noone forces you to play..IT IS STILL TAMPERING!!!!!!!!

                    "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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                      Posted: September 28, 2008, 12:01 pm - IP Logged

                      If they never test the machine, what are they going to do when it breaks half way though a live draw?

                      If you bet on a basketball game, you do so BEFORE the warm-ups which take place moments before the game, correct? What if your star player breaks his ankle in pre-game practice?  Well you had no way to know that might happen either, but the team still needs to warm up to try and ensure everything will go as smoothly as possible for the big game.

                      My understanding is that when you buy your $1 lottery ticket, you are agreeing to the terms and conditions of the lottery which include pre-test draws to ensure the actual live drawing is going to work properly, and be completely random.  The lottery is simply assuring these draws are random, which I don't think will ever be *proved* as 'cheating' the players.

                      If the drawing was not random (since they did not test the machine and find any potential flaws), and someone else in the US was able to determine the pattern and win twice or three times in a row, would THAT not be cheating the *other* players?? Say you had the same randomly generated winning ticket, and this other individual was able to calculate that same set of numbers because the lottery was only 99.9% random (due to an out-of-round ball or something) and won half of your jackpot, where if the lottery commision noticed this previously, this gentleman would not have been able to calculate those numbers.

                      Personally, if I had access to the pre-test draws from all of the previous PB drawings it would not help me at all since I base my predictions on all draws up to the last one.  So say the last live PB draw was draw #500, it would not help me to have all of the info since I would not have time to include the #501/502/503 pre-test draws moments before the actual draw took place.

                      Just my $.02!

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                        If they never test the machine, what are they going to do when it breaks half way though a live draw?

                        If you bet on a basketball game, you do so BEFORE the warm-ups which take place moments before the game, correct? What if your star player breaks his ankle in pre-game practice?  Well you had no way to know that might happen either, but the team still needs to warm up to try and ensure everything will go as smoothly as possible for the big game.

                        My understanding is that when you buy your $1 lottery ticket, you are agreeing to the terms and conditions of the lottery which include pre-test draws to ensure the actual live drawing is going to work properly, and be completely random.  The lottery is simply assuring these draws are random, which I don't think will ever be *proved* as 'cheating' the players.

                        If the drawing was not random (since they did not test the machine and find any potential flaws), and someone else in the US was able to determine the pattern and win twice or three times in a row, would THAT not be cheating the *other* players?? Say you had the same randomly generated winning ticket, and this other individual was able to calculate that same set of numbers because the lottery was only 99.9% random (due to an out-of-round ball or something) and won half of your jackpot, where if the lottery commision noticed this previously, this gentleman would not have been able to calculate those numbers.

                        Personally, if I had access to the pre-test draws from all of the previous PB drawings it would not help me at all since I base my predictions on all draws up to the last one.  So say the last live PB draw was draw #500, it would not help me to have all of the info since I would not have time to include the #501/502/503 pre-test draws moments before the actual draw took place.

                        Just my $.02!

                        Hey well why would you hide the pretest results

                        post the results so everyone can see them if their

                        not doing anything wrong it should be up were the

                        public can see these results by the way it's not on their web

                        sites or any else that they pretest these games Texas is the

                        only State doing this and like some one said earlier how do

                        we know that they are showing all the pretest results  (MIND)  

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                          Posted: September 28, 2008, 12:36 pm - IP Logged

                          Stew..warm ups before basketball..come on now..heh..all random fields HAS TO COMPLETE..period..if the public knows say for instance in powerball that pairs 35 and 52 hasnt showed yet...THEY HAVE TO COME..PERIOD.!!!..and because of random it is highly possible that 35 and 52 can show in one draw..that is 2/5's of the 5 white balls..now dont you think that gives you a little help to know something is missing and has to show..

                           

                          Powerball list those pretests on their website...click on powerball numbers on the home page..when the page changes..scroll down a little bit...click on the little red dot in the center of the page...all of those numbers you have been missing are there

                           

                          in pic 3 and pic 3..0-9 is loaded in its OWN MACHINE..it doesnt matter if it brakes down in the middle..take that machine out..bring in the next one to complete the draw..ONLY ONE COMBINATION..if the machine brakes down on the big games..its simple..say 23 15 6 has showed and THEY SAY THE MACHINE BRAKES DOWN..BRING in the next machine..take out 23, 15, and 6 and complete the draw...THAT WOULD BE LEGAL..PERFECTLY LEGAL..nothing has changed whatsoever..

                          The only ones that would cry foul are the same people that call radio and T.V. stations all the time and say they saw Elvis at the Mall!!!!

                          "Attention all Mathematicians: Check your degree at the door because when it comes to whole numbers you are the Amateur"

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                            Lotto Texas ® Pre-test Results

                            A pre-test is an unofficial drawing that tests the machine and the ball set used for a Lotto Texas drawing. Pre-tests ensure that the drawing machine is working well and that balls are drawn in a random way.
                             
                            The Texas Lottery performs at least six pre-tests before every Lotto Texas drawing. A Lotto Texas ball set passes the pre-tests if the same ball is not drawn five or more times. If any Lotto Texas ball is drawn six times, the entire ball set fails and is removed from the machine and replaced by the alternate ball set.
                             
                            When a ball set does not pass the pre-tests, more pre-tests are performed to test the alternate ball set. The second set(s) of pre-tests are shown in RED .
                             
                            In the case of a discrepancy between the pre-test results listed on this Web Site and the official pre-test records, the official records prevail. Asterisks (*) mark the machine and ball set used for the drawing.
                            This  bullsh@@!#!@  (MIND)

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                              Stew12

                              "If they never test the machine, what are they going to do when it breaks half way though a live draw?"

                              This happens on WBN-TV Chicago often enough to be very noticeable. Sometimes it's Pick 3, sometimes Pick 4, sometimes Lotto or Little Lotto- the machines jams, no ball ever comes down, and then they put a "Technical difficulties" notice on the screen with the Illinois Lotto logo on it and announce that the numbers will be available later.

                              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                              Lep

                              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.