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There is no Math when it come to winning.

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Posted: June 28, 2009, 5:26 am - IP Logged

I agree. No math needed, but we use them to justify our ego.

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    Posted: July 1, 2009, 11:15 am - IP Logged

     I'm sure they know that players like us are trying to use math to crack the code.

    The code was cracked years ago by that foreign investment group that won the Virginia lottery by trying to play every possible combination.  Lotteries reacted and established rules that limit the time one person or group can control the use of a lottery terminal and changed the odds of winning lower tier prizes such that jackpots are unlikely to be more than the cost of playing every combination.  Now if someone discovered a new code that might produce a winner 95% of the time with only 30% of the possible combinations, they couldn't play all those combinations before the next drawing.

    The only reason that Australian syndicate did make a profit on the February 15, 1992 Virginia 6/44 Lotto was because they did the math. If there were 10 combinations on each, they had to get and fill out over 700,000 play slips. They had to calculate how long it would take to print out all 7,059,052 combinations and divide that by the roughly 3 days they had to do it in; at 10 slips per minute, they needed about 30 terminals running non-stop.

    Maybe they were lucky they had the only winning ticket, but their total investment was never at risk. Once they were assured they had the time to get all the combinations, the biggest risk involved was other winning tickets so they had to factor that in too. They already knew how much they would get back on the secondary prizes, so they waited until the jackpot reached $27 million which would almost guarantee them a profit.

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      Posted: July 1, 2009, 12:05 pm - IP Logged

      The only reason that Australian syndicate did make a profit on the February 15, 1992 Virginia 6/44 Lotto was because they did the math. If there were 10 combinations on each, they had to get and fill out over 700,000 play slips. They had to calculate how long it would take to print out all 7,059,052 combinations and divide that by the roughly 3 days they had to do it in; at 10 slips per minute, they needed about 30 terminals running non-stop.

      Maybe they were lucky they had the only winning ticket, but their total investment was never at risk. Once they were assured they had the time to get all the combinations, the biggest risk involved was other winning tickets so they had to factor that in too. They already knew how much they would get back on the secondary prizes, so they waited until the jackpot reached $27 million which would almost guarantee them a profit.

      Thanks for posting those stats, I remembered the incident but had forgotten the date and the lottery format.  As I remembered they had printed the tickets and contracted with the seven-eleven stores to be ready when the jackpot reached the right amount.

       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
         
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        Posted: July 1, 2009, 9:54 pm - IP Logged

        I tried to install it and I couldn't it said Publiser unknown and to check with Administrater.

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          Posted: July 2, 2009, 1:19 pm - IP Logged

          Maybe you are right I just read your Post, again, Now I do use math when I play the Horses. instead of picking the Horses, I will play the program pick horses and add them up to get long shots. I have trued it several times and sometimes that works. once I play 3 horses, I added them all up subtracted some of them  I came up with 10-6-8 that trifecta paid 29,000 If I would of boxed those numbers I would of had 1/2 of the payout 15,000 off of a dollar ticket. I  played 10-8-6 I played it strait so I didn't get anything. so you are right about using some math with gambling on numbers. Big Smile

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          Use Mirror #'s Use prs. with your  Key* numbers the most Vivid thing in your dream go up or down on #'s.  Flip  6=9 `9=6  Bullseyes  0 or 1 for Pick 4 and the P. 5  Play the other part of doubles.  Do the Whole nine yards for a P. 4* P. 5*  or 0 thur 9  for P. 4  P. 5 from my dreams or hunches good Luck.. Write your Dreams down Play for 3 days.  Good Luck All.

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            Posted: July 5, 2009, 7:05 pm - IP Logged

            pi is the master tune

            Relax,Bigdaddy has your number!!!!!

            Pi is the way...

            turning $30 or less into thousands everyday!!

            here we go steelers ..here we go---------stairway to seven 

            TIME FOR THE LOMBARDI TROPHY TO  COME  HOME..

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              Posted: July 6, 2009, 10:23 am - IP Logged

              hey big, whats cracking, met u on chat last night. are you gonna post any p3 or p4 numbers for illinois

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                Posted: July 10, 2009, 9:45 pm - IP Logged

                Hello marcie

                I have proximately won 160k ever since lottery started in UK in 1994 this includes 18 times matching 5 numbers so by right I must be the unluckiest guy on planet earth to get 18 times close to jackpot but not win it!

                I’ll say thanks to math which allowed me to win.

                 

                Now, you tell me how much you spent on lottery?

                Moses

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                  Posted: July 10, 2009, 9:47 pm - IP Logged

                  If it was me and I only played quick picks and believed it was all about luck (no offense Todd) I wouldn't waste my time here when all I had to do is go to the store...buy my quick picks and be on my way.

                  Not every one is here to get ideas about picking numbers to play.  LP is also a good place to get lottery results and news about what's going on with lotteries around the world.  When I first found LP, I was looking for the BigGame website.  At the time I traveled to Michigan to play BigGame and wanted to get the drawings results.  In those day, this website and BigGame website had a green and yellow color scheme and I came here several time before I realized this wasn't the BigGame website.  I found here what I was looking for so I continued coming back.

                  that will only happen everyblue Moon, for someone to Win a a Quick Pick, very rare!

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                    Posted: July 11, 2009, 10:28 pm - IP Logged

                    that will only happen everyblue Moon, for someone to Win a a Quick Pick, very rare!

                    Hmmmm.....you were the one who started this thread and said it was all about luck soooo.......

                    If that were true than it shouldn't matter how you pick your numbers......

                    A quick pick should be just as good as any other method.

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                      Posted: July 12, 2009, 2:39 pm - IP Logged

                      that will only happen everyblue Moon, for someone to Win a a Quick Pick, very rare!

                      Actually, it's no more rare for someone to win using a quick-picks than it is to win with combinations pick other ways.  Statistically speaking, quick picks and personally picked combinations win proportionately to their use.  More QP win because they are 70% or more of the combinations played.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Actually, it's no more rare for someone to win using a quick-picks than it is to win with combinations pick other ways.  Statistically speaking, quick picks and personally picked combinations win proportionately to their use.  More QP win because they are 70% or more of the combinations played.

                        I would like to know how do you justifiy that?

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                          it is all about Lucky that's all!

                            you  is so   wrong   ,     wake  up  wake  up.  i am glad   everybody  from  ohio   

                          don,t     thinks  they  way,     i  have  friends   from   there  live    in   n,c   

                                 

                                                                    No No

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                            Actually, it's no more rare for someone to win using a quick-picks than it is to win with combinations pick other ways.  Statistically speaking, quick picks and personally picked combinations win proportionately to their use.  More QP win because they are 70% or more of the combinations played.

                              you  so   on  the money,       most  people   don,t   no  the game,   if   i had  depend   on   luck  i  would   never      win,    i  don,t  believe  in  luck,any  way, you   make  ur      own  luck.

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                              Posted: July 12, 2009, 4:53 pm - IP Logged

                              I would like to know how do you justifiy that?

                              I'm just quoting what I've read on many lotteries website Q and A pages.  The following is from the PowerBall Q/A page.

                              WHICH HAS THE BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING: COMPUTER PICKS OR PLAYER PICKS?

                              About 70% to 80% of purchases are computer picks. About 70% to 80% of winners are computer picks. Perhaps just one of those weird coincidences?

                              http://www.powerball.com/pb_contact.asp

                               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                                 
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