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My digit system for pick-5 or pick-6 lottery

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RL,

I'm working on a response based on the Missouri Show Me 5 to be pasted here when finished.  In the meantime, so you don't think I'm stumped, or ignoring you, here are short answers to your first 3 questions:

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MO 5-36     (You mean 5-39, right?)

list A = total sets = 575757     C(39,5)

list B = total draws 658    (Whatever)

Which list  would you use to predict what would most likely occure in the next drawing.  ( Neither )

Which list would you use to build your filters   ( Neither )

which list would provide the most information   (The most info about the possible outcomes List A )

...

I'm certain the Jackpot set (of 5) would be in List A, only 0.1143% sure it would be in List B.

As for dealing with matching subsets of 2, 3, and 4...

Stay Tuned!

--Jimmy

P.S.  If you REALLY suspect there is reason to believe that some subset of the 39 balls is more likely to emerge from the machine than the others, I strongly urge you to contact MO State Officials and call for an investigation!

Jimmy

I think that you have missed the point but  thanks for correcting my typeo's.  I also try and use language

and terms that can be understood by everyone.  The point is that I use the complete matrix and not

the last drawings to select my data.  You can make any argument you want but you are wasting my

time and filling this post with your unwanted views.  I gave you the backtest results and they are correct

for the values listed.  What you don't understand is that no matter what math you can come up with I have

already looked at it.  You will not be able to change my mind, I could preach the same message but the

problem would be that I don't believe it.  I am not in any way interested in helping you play the markets. 

I don't want to help you write software either.   You don't believe that any system can offer any avantage. 

I accept your views, as your views,  but ask you to Keep them to your self or post them somewhere else. 

I make choices that may or may not be correct, but they are mine to make. I have been doing this for many

years and if I thought that it was not worth my effort I would have given up years ago.  I have a good life,

I have many interest and hobbies, I have spent so much time here replying to your post when I could have 

been doing something useful.  I get it that you don't believe this can be done.  History is full of truths

that were later overturned, lets just leave it up to history to decide this one. 

Have a good day

RL

Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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    Jimmy

    I think that you have missed the point but  thanks for correcting my typeo's.  I also try and use language

    and terms that can be understood by everyone.  The point is that I use the complete matrix and not

    the last drawings to select my data.  You can make any argument you want but you are wasting my

    time and filling this post with your unwanted views.  I gave you the backtest results and they are correct

    for the values listed.  What you don't understand is that no matter what math you can come up with I have

    already looked at it.  You will not be able to change my mind, I could preach the same message but the

    problem would be that I don't believe it.  I am not in any way interested in helping you play the markets. 

    I don't want to help you write software either.   You don't believe that any system can offer any avantage. 

    I accept your views, as your views,  but ask you to Keep them to your self or post them somewhere else. 

    I make choices that may or may not be correct, but they are mine to make. I have been doing this for many

    years and if I thought that it was not worth my effort I would have given up years ago.  I have a good life,

    I have many interest and hobbies, I have spent so much time here replying to your post when I could have 

    been doing something useful.  I get it that you don't believe this can be done.  History is full of truths

    that were later overturned, lets just leave it up to history to decide this one. 

    Have a good day

    RL

    I Agree!

    WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

    RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

    I think I can I think I can!!!!


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      I Agree!

      Lets hope that is the last we hear from J.Smile

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        The Digit System

        I have been programming for 25 years and took up a challenge to
        write a program that was capable of producing repeatable results  
        for pick-5 pick-6 lotteries.

        This is a small part of a system that I have been working on for
        many years I have had much success using this system up to the
        past few months. I am sharing this system in hopes that in doing
        so will improve my carma. "Give and it shall be given".
           
        I will not post the whole system as it would take 30 to 40 pages
        but will give a good working description that should allow those
        who are interested a starting place. I play 5-39 and 6-44 games.
        so most of the information I give will pertain to information I
        have gathered from these games.

        Some Definitions first

        ID = Independent digits. Digits 0-9 counted only once regardless of
             times within a set.

        TD = Total digits. Number of all digits within a set but does not
             include leading zero's

        DOD = Double odd digits. Numbers made from two odd digits

        DEV = Double even digit. Numbers made from two even digits

        MDN = Mixed digit numbers. Numbers made from 1-odd and 1-even digit
         

        Below are the last 3 draws for MO. show me cash-5   

        FRI  05/28/10   04 16 23 24 39
        THU  05/27/10   03 08 21 24 28
        WED  05/26/10   14 18 20 27 33

        To begin I would like you to look at the last 3 draws of show me cash.
        These draws are typical and at first glance nothing special. look again,

        draw #1, is made up of the digits "1-2-3-4-6-9"
        draw #2, is made up of the digits "1-2-3-4-8"
        draw #3, is made up of the digits "0-1-2-3-4-7-8"

        notice all the draws have digits "1-2-3-4" and two of the draws have the
        digit "8" in common.
           
        You might think this is a fluke, Check the drawings below

        MO. lotto         05/26/10, "10 12 16 32 33 44" "0,1,2,3,4,6"  
        Fl. fantasy 5     05/27/10, "14 23 27 29 32"    "1-2-3-4-7-9"  
        IL. little lotto  05/28/10, "18-26-32-33-39"    "1-2-3-6-8-9"  
        TN. Pick 5        05/28/10, "08-12-15-18-34"    "1-2-3-4-5-8"

        Are you interested yet? and these are the only 4 sites I checked when
        I began to write this. Funny it was there all along but went unnoticed.

        Don't get to excited yet because it's not that simple. Like I said I
        have been searching and writing lottery software for 20 years and I
        don't have millions, yet.

        Most drawing sets consist of 6 digits, Remember I said Most. A bell
        curve will peek on 5 or 6 for most any lottery. Take another look at
        your lottery and you will find that most draw sets will have the digits
        "1-2-3" in a large percent of draws with many of those having more then
        one of at least 2 of the "1-2-3" base digits within it.

        Next consider that the largest percent of draws contain at least one
        number that consist of only one digit, "number below 10" and many
        sets contain two single digit numbers. In a 5 number draw the maximum
        TD possible is ten.  

        Now for the mathmen, 6 digits in a 5/39 lottery can yield over 6000
        combos depending on the 6 digits selected. Done that! been there.
        I don’t need your brain power to tell me what I already know. I don't
        want any odds quoted concerning this. Believe me I have ran every
        combo of digits in every way conceivable. At one time I was running
        4, really fast, striped down computers 24/7/365 crunching numbers
        my own version of a home super. I will give those that wish to baffle
        a question to ponder. I say odds are for the losers. I know of no real
        lottery in the world that has sold all winning combo's within one
        drawing but yet lotteries are won every day by everyday people many
        of which purchased a one dollar play. What’s the odds on that. A person
        will win or lose not based on the odds but on the ticket he or she holds
        in their hand. A lottery player considers the odds but plays anyway,
        Kind of like a certain paint store worker that may of considered the
        odds but choose to sing anyway. And as Forest would say "that's all I
        got to say about that"
           
        Now for those who like to dream big, and hope to one day pull down a
        really big one, I will continue. Dreams are good and I hope all your
        dreams come true. As I stated above it would seem easy to build a
        set of winning numbers based on the info just provided. To put it
        simply, It is not. Many draws will follow this path but not all.
        Don't expect, but hope that the information provided in this post
        will help your dreams come true.  

        notice that I pad all single digit numbers with a "0". This digit  
        will be ignored except in some cases.  

        Step #1
        compile a list of at least 30 drawings. They can be a random sample.
        A current day to day drawing list is no better then a random sample
        I for years believed that the patterns I found would repeat until I
        discovered that the patterns were also random. All roads will
        intersect with another if they run far enough. That being said,
        go through each drawing on your list and mark how many TD, ID, DOD,
        DEV, MDN digits are in each draw, When writing down the sets, arrange
        them in 10 columns, the numbers 12 18 22 35 39 would look like this
        include leading zero's in this list
         
        | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | TD | ID | DOD | DEV | MDN
        |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|____|____|____|_____|_____|____
        |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |    |    |     |     |     
        | 1 | 2 | 1 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 3 | 9  | 10 | 6  |  2  |  1  |  2
        |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|____|____|____|_____|_____|____
        |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |    |    |    |     |     |   

        place them down the page so they can be easy to read from top to bottom.  
        feel free to copy and paste this to use as a template you can print.
           
        Step #2
        On another sheet of paper add the number of digits in each of
        the 10 columns of digits, count the padded "0" digits in this step.  

        Dig      | 0's | 1's | 2's | 3's | 4's | 5's | 6's | 7's | 8's | 9's
        _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
        col [#1] |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
        _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
        col [#2] |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
        _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____
        col [#3] |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
        _________|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____

        continue to col [10]


        Step #3
        On another sheet of paper convert the number sets to digits, do not
        include the padded "0" in this list. "08-12-15-18-34" to "1-2-3-4-5-8"
        each digit is counted only once and then to the right of this place the
        digits that were not in the draw

        Draw set        Digits hit      Digits out
        08-12-15-18-34  1-2-3-4-5-8     6-7-9-0
           
        Step #4
        Study the list you have made and trends will begin to appear. I say trends
        not patterns. A trend is like a pattern but it is not a pattern. All lotteries
        develop trends. look at each column of numbers and decide which digit hits
        most often for that column and write them down. On a new sheet of paper draw
        10 lines, one for each digit. ___ ___   ___ ___   ___ ___   ___ ___   ___ ___     
        make a list of the best ID, TD, DOD, DEV, MDN, values that hit most often.
        now using the information gleamed from the data sheets fill in the best digit
        for each place on the line. Next look at the digits and see if all the data
        from ID,TD,DOD,DEV,MDN fits your selection. if not then repeat the process.
        do not be concerned with how your numbers appear on the lines as they may not
        be in any order. Keep your data sheets for reuse or make several different
        ones and play a set or two from each.

        As stated above this is but a small part of a much larger system. My system
        allows a range of settings for each value + wildcards then generates all
        possible combo's then filters them and then finally wheels them down to 10
        or so of the best sets. I have hit as many as four 4/5 in one day. I have
        won three 5/6 using this system.       

        I gave my sister in law a small list of numbers to play and within a week she
        had hit two or three 4/5 plays and many 3/5. This system does work but requires some skill and some gut instinct to make the final selections.

        Good luck and if interest is high enough I will maybe add some more at a later
        date.   

        Try to flush your mind of what you think will happen, several years ago I wanted
        to know what I was doing wrong. I wrote into my software the ability to track
        my inputs and then report back were I made mistakes. Guess what? I made the same
        mistakes over and over again, I let my personal preferences overrun what the data was saying, "that can't happen again", that sort of thing. I also included the ability to see what changes would have increased my winnings, There were many times when one click of a mouse would have won me millions.   
           
        Enjoy

        Hi,

          Now that the Jimmy drama is hopefully over, maybe a recap of the system including the new acronyms, links, and evolution would be order. It's now up to 28 pages of posts and its hard to sort out everything that has resulted.

          Thanks

        You are a slave to the choices you have made.  jk

        Even a blind squirrel will occasioanlly find an acorn.


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          Random

           

          does your system predict the last digits?

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            Just want to wake this topic back up been quiet RL lol?................Bed

            WHEN IT FEELS THE WHOLE WORLD SUCKS!

            RELAX.........IT'S ONLY GRAVITY Big Smile

            I think I can I think I can!!!!

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              Just want to wake this topic back up been quiet RL lol?................Bed

              Bootleg

              I have been burning the candle at both ends and don't have much time to keep this up right now. I

              am still working on the instruction video and a few more state databases.  

              RL

              Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

              I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

              they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                Bootleg

                I have been burning the candle at both ends and don't have much time to keep this up right now. I

                am still working on the instruction video and a few more state databases.  

                RL

                Keep on trucking brother.


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                  RLRandomlogic, you say you are convinced that recurring patterns do not occur, that its simply

                  numbers overlapping over time.

                   

                  I've taken this from my country's lottery, draws are saturday/wednesday. The draws on the left

                  are a few weeks apart from the draws on the right (so the draws on the right follow those on

                  the left, I just put them next to each other to show the recurring numbercombo's).

                   

                  recurring numbers

                  If you look at this you can't help but wonder "there is a pattern in there somewhere" right ?

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                    RLRandomlogic, you say you are convinced that recurring patterns do not occur, that its simply

                    numbers overlapping over time.

                     

                    I've taken this from my country's lottery, draws are saturday/wednesday. The draws on the left

                    are a few weeks apart from the draws on the right (so the draws on the right follow those on

                    the left, I just put them next to each other to show the recurring numbercombo's).

                     

                    recurring numbers

                    If you look at this you can't help but wonder "there is a pattern in there somewhere" right ?

                    decipledude

                    Your data is very interesting,  If you could find this as it was being drawn then it would be very 

                    useful but most of the time I found that once I locked in on something like this it would be near

                    the end of its run.  You also must decide which numbers are going to match and which drawing

                    to play them.   It looks to me that this is a 6+1 game.  With 7 numbers these are the possible

                    matches.

                    21 different sets of 2

                    35 different sets of 3

                    35 different sets of 4

                    21 different sets of 5

                    7  different sets of 6

                    If the numbers come from more than one set, say two or three than the chance to match several

                    numbers will be very good.  The thing that looks good about your data is that it seemed to run for

                    many drawings.  Please don't take what I have said in this post to be anything more than just what

                    I found looking at the data for my game.  Anything that you can find that helps you is worth going

                    after.  It has been a long time since I looked at my lotteries sets in this manner and I may take

                    another look.

                     

                    Thanks very much for your post

                    RL

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                    I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                    they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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                      There might be another way to find other numbers (or to confirm the ones you find with your system) and that

                      is by using the systems explained in Sepharial's book "the kabala of numbers".

                       

                      Now, before you reply with "we all know that book and the "secret progression" in it does not work." I would like to point out that

                      the version most of us have been reading and that can be found on torrents or rapidshare is actually the version called "a handbook of interpretation".

                      The original "kabala of numbers" however contains various systems aimed specifically at lottery, most of them are of Italian

                      Kabalistic origine. None of the systems in it give you definite numbers for the next draw BUT they do give you numbers

                      for the next draw or for the next 4 or 5 draws. By combining these systems (its all pure numerology, you'll love it) I'm quite

                      certain you can minimize the cost & wheeling combinations.

                       

                      Remember : you need the original version, not the version you'll find on the net. It is was republished by Cosimo Books

                      in 2005. You can even read parts of it on google books. I've just discovered this myself so I dont have it yet, I ordered it though.

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                        Thanks for posting your system.

                        Have a couple questions:

                        Some Definitions first

                        ID = Independent digits. Digits 0-9 counted only once regardless of
                             times within a set.

                        TD = Total digits. Number of all digits within a set but does not
                             include leading zero's

                        DOD = Double odd digits. Numbers made from two odd digits

                        DEV = Double even digit. Numbers made from two even digits

                        MDN = Mixed digit numbers. Numbers made from 1-odd and 1-even digit

                        The DOD, DEV, and MDN.  Do we include the padded zero's?

                        For example if we have a 08, do we say this is a "DEV"?

                        Thanks!!

                        Hello randomlogic, your esudo of the digits is bom,mas could do a study
                         Of the endings or do I finish type him/it in separate? Well, later I type
                        him/it front it is another Analyzes, aleatoriamente will be put for forming
                        him/it number!! to have a reference Of creating a rotative system of cycles or
                        frequency patterns!!

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                          Someone requested an Excel file for Texas 5/37 Game

                          Here is the download link to the zip file:

                          http://www.box.net/shared/85l6n18ins

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                            Hello randomlogic, your esudo of the digits is bom,mas could do a study
                             Of the endings or do I finish type him/it in separate? Well, later I type
                            him/it front it is another Analyzes, aleatoriamente will be put for forming
                            him/it number!! to have a reference Of creating a rotative system of cycles or
                            frequency patterns!!

                            dr san

                            Se bem entendi, então sim, eu acho que isso poderia ser feito, porém o grau de precisão

                            que poderiam ser atingidos quase nunca seriam 100%. Eu uso um tipo de padrão / search viés

                            que me permite comprometer-se a uma certa seleção. Ao utilizar qualquer sistema deve fazer seleções

                            e viver com os resultados sejam elas quais forem. Com os métodos que eu uso normalmente têm 90%

                            a 95% das seleções corretas. Meu objetivo era produzir um sistema que permitisse que para muitos

                            menores prêmios nível dentro desta gama. O problema é que um número ou um dígito ainda pode fazer

                            ou quebrar um jogo. Eu tenho mais de 70 filtros que tenho criado ao longo dos anos que se enquadram em

                            quatro grupos com base no grau de filtragem. Acho que é muito fácil de reduzir o total de conjuntos de 5-39

                            para menos de 1000 e muitas vezes eu posso reduzir para menos de 500 com pouco esforço. A partir desse

                            ponto, fica mais difícil e mais difícil a cada etapa para não remover os conjuntos vencedores. A maioria das

                            pessoas pensam que se poderia 1000 jogos para jogar cada jogo que eles iriam bater muito

                            frequentemente. Uma vez eu corri algum teste escolhendo como muitoscomo 25 mil conjuntos aleatórios

                            para cada desenho e descobriu que apenas cerca de 1 em cada quinze a trinta atemps produziria a 5, de 5

                            de partida. Para este post eu tentei incluir uma mistura de filtros que podem ser usados por todos os jogos

                            e ainda reduzir a uma quantidade jogável. Eu nunca gastaria $ 500,00 um um únicosorteio de qualquer

                            jogo, porque eu nunca poderia chegar a 100% de certeza. A loteria para mim é como a caçapara o tesouro

                            do pirata. À noite, eu planejo onde eu vou procurar no dia seguinte, eu estudo os mapas e gráficos
                             

                            e parcela o meu curso de ação para o dia seguinte. Se alguém encontrar o tesouro antes de mim eu não

                            tem que se preocupar, porque um outro tesouro tira o lugar antes do sorteio seguinte. Se eu jogar e não

                            ganhar penso nisso como uma doação para manter o jogo vai, eu pago para jogar.

                            RL

                            If I understand correctly then yes I think this could be done, however the degree of accuracy 

                            that could be attained would almost never be 100%.  I do use a sort of pattern / bias search

                            that allows me to commit to a certain selection.  In using any system one must make selections 

                            and live with the results whatever they might be.  With the methods I use I typically have 90%

                            to 95% of the selections correct.  My goal was to produce a system that would allow for many

                            lower level prizes within this range.  The problem is that one number or even one digit can make

                            or break a set.  I have over 70 filters that I have designed over the years that fall into 4 groups

                            based on the degree of filtration.  I find it very easy to reduce total sets for a 5-39 to under 1000

                            and many times I can reduce to less than 500 with little effort.  From this point it gets harder and

                            harder with each step not to remove the winning sets.  Most people would think that if they could

                            play 1000 sets for each game that they would hit very often.  I once ran some test picking  as many

                            as 25,000 random sets for each drawing and found that only about 1 of every fifteen to  thirty attemps

                            would produce a 5 of 5 match.  For this post I tried to include a mix of filters that could be used by

                            everyone and still reduce sets to a playable amount.  I would never spend $500.00 an a single

                            draw for any game because I could never reach 100% certainty.  The lottery to me is like hunting

                            for pirate treasure.  At night I plan where I will search the next day,  I study the maps and charts

                            and plot my course of action for the next day.  If someone else finds the treasure before me I don't

                            have to worry because another treasure takes it's place before the next drawing. If I play and don't

                            win I think of it as a donation to keep the game going, I pay to play.

                             

                            RL

                            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

                            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

                            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

                            USAF https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Base_Engineer_Emergency_Force

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                              Posted: August 5, 2010, 11:26 pm - IP Logged

                              hi winsum,

                               

                              could you create an excel file for washington state lotto 6/49 game

                               

                              thank you much

                                 
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