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The REAL reason lotteries like RNG.

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Yes, however those "test draws" which they don't show the results of is reason for concern! 

I agree, and have been saying this for what seems like an eternity. Ball lovers think they have all the angles covered.

It's obvious that the officials are purposely withholding that info. How much more effort does it take to post the pretests right along with the actual draw?

I don't care what anyone says, that info is priceless to me. As far as I'm concerned, the pretest is just another draw.

Just imagine for one moment, the draw for your state, in the p-3 tonight is not published, or valid, but instead, tomorrows mid draw will be the valid draw. Would you be pissed?  All that time you took to study the numbers. That overdue pair came in the pretest. The 1 that usually follows 7 already showed in the pretest.  That double that looks promising is just a ghost now.......So you continue to aimlessly chase numbers, thinking they are overdue. Not just overdue, but chase numbers with whatever strategy you had. Or, you see that number in a different column, which was actually in the original column, but because they switched the tubes around, and didn't disclose the new positions, everything is now screwed up.

Not to mention the many other BS excuses they make along the way.

Surely, the RNG can be manipulated too. That's a no brainer. But to say that balls go without scrutiny is false in my opinion.

 

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    Very interesting indeed!  I wonder if more signatures on Todds petition for True Lottery Drawings would put a damper on something like this?

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      I'm actually a little confused by all the people who get down on RNG and QP.

       

      If random number generators are programmed by people and can therefore be manipulated - wouldn't it be easier to find a pattern there than with a truly random event - making it easier to hit the lottery? (which I think is why we are all here)  If you really believe you can decipher a pattern in the lottery - it seems like you'd be all for RNG draws.

       

      And as far as quick picks.  If you believe that doing number workouts increase your odds of hitting the lottery, then wouldn't you want more people playing quick picks to build the pot?  It's kind of like having stupid players at the poker table - they may win a hand or two but eventually you know your walking away with their money.

       

      Am I missing something, and if so can you straighten me out on it?

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        I'm actually a little confused by all the people who get down on RNG and QP.

         

        If random number generators are programmed by people and can therefore be manipulated - wouldn't it be easier to find a pattern there than with a truly random event - making it easier to hit the lottery? (which I think is why we are all here)  If you really believe you can decipher a pattern in the lottery - it seems like you'd be all for RNG draws.

         

        And as far as quick picks.  If you believe that doing number workouts increase your odds of hitting the lottery, then wouldn't you want more people playing quick picks to build the pot?  It's kind of like having stupid players at the poker table - they may win a hand or two but eventually you know your walking away with their money.

         

        Am I missing something, and if so can you straighten me out on it?

        I think the fear of manipulation is not pattern disruption per se but more that the manipulation would work towards reducing payouts or fostering illicit wins by a select few.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          I think the fear of manipulation is not pattern disruption per se but more that the manipulation would work towards reducing payouts or fostering illicit wins by a select few.

          pumpi is that you?...

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            Posted: July 8, 2010, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

            I'm actually a little confused by all the people who get down on RNG and QP.

             

            If random number generators are programmed by people and can therefore be manipulated - wouldn't it be easier to find a pattern there than with a truly random event - making it easier to hit the lottery? (which I think is why we are all here)  If you really believe you can decipher a pattern in the lottery - it seems like you'd be all for RNG draws.

             

            And as far as quick picks.  If you believe that doing number workouts increase your odds of hitting the lottery, then wouldn't you want more people playing quick picks to build the pot?  It's kind of like having stupid players at the poker table - they may win a hand or two but eventually you know your walking away with their money.

             

            Am I missing something, and if so can you straighten me out on it?

            As far I am concerned you are missing hardly nothing!

            "hardly" because the only issue is that of:  Ball or RNG,  we have the problem of the "test Draw"  which  we have cero knowledge of what the results are!!

             And every number  drawn test or not is crucial to the workout sheet... we, (those  of us who do workout sheets which involves number history) do not like flying blindly here!

            "test draw" makes our job a little harder! "little" been sort of an understatement "Sort off" is minimizing the fact.  

            Every thing you said about QPs make perfect sense to me, as far as I am concern you are on point! and that is why I did not argue a pointless point!! LOL

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              As far I am concerned you are missing hardly nothing!

              "hardly" because the only issue is that of:  Ball or RNG,  we have the problem of the "test Draw"  which  we have cero knowledge of what the results are!!

               And every number  drawn test or not is crucial to the workout sheet... we, (those  of us who do workout sheets which involves number history) do not like flying blindly here!

              "test draw" makes our job a little harder! "little" been sort of an understatement "Sort off" is minimizing the fact.  

              Every thing you said about QPs make perfect sense to me, as far as I am concern you are on point! and that is why I did not argue a pointless point!! LOL

              Happy to meet another member of the family of Lottery Poster!Hyper

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                Posted: July 8, 2010, 1:57 pm - IP Logged

                I agree, and have been saying this for what seems like an eternity. Ball lovers think they have all the angles covered.

                It's obvious that the officials are purposely withholding that info. How much more effort does it take to post the pretests right along with the actual draw?

                I don't care what anyone says, that info is priceless to me. As far as I'm concerned, the pretest is just another draw.

                Just imagine for one moment, the draw for your state, in the p-3 tonight is not published, or valid, but instead, tomorrows mid draw will be the valid draw. Would you be pissed?  All that time you took to study the numbers. That overdue pair came in the pretest. The 1 that usually follows 7 already showed in the pretest.  That double that looks promising is just a ghost now.......So you continue to aimlessly chase numbers, thinking they are overdue. Not just overdue, but chase numbers with whatever strategy you had. Or, you see that number in a different column, which was actually in the original column, but because they switched the tubes around, and didn't disclose the new positions, everything is now screwed up.

                Not to mention the many other BS excuses they make along the way.

                Surely, the RNG can be manipulated too. That's a no brainer. But to say that balls go without scrutiny is false in my opinion.

                 

                "Surely The RNG can be manipulated too. That's a no brainer. But to say that balls go without scrutiny is falce in my opinion"

                Joker17 you are so on target with this!    

                and Please I do not want any one else telling me how wrong, I am! and How right they are.

                I have no Tangible undeniable proof about what I suspect is going on but  neither does ANYONE ELSE have Tangible undeniable proof that my suspicions are unfounded!

                Now Mr. Lottery officials, be a dear, and bring on the results of the "test draw" as a client I think I  can ask for this to be done!

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                  What's a workout sheet?..Is that like working?..Studying?..Numbers?..To little time for that..tiggs loves to guess at numbers..Guessing is so much fun it makes tiggs giggle..:)..472 today for tiggs in Ky..350.00<<<----lucky guess..Thems tiggs numbers with 217..Jump aboard and join the fun..EEEEEEEEEEHHAAAAAWWWWW..

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                    I agree, and have been saying this for what seems like an eternity. Ball lovers think they have all the angles covered.

                    It's obvious that the officials are purposely withholding that info. How much more effort does it take to post the pretests right along with the actual draw?

                    I don't care what anyone says, that info is priceless to me. As far as I'm concerned, the pretest is just another draw.

                    Just imagine for one moment, the draw for your state, in the p-3 tonight is not published, or valid, but instead, tomorrows mid draw will be the valid draw. Would you be pissed?  All that time you took to study the numbers. That overdue pair came in the pretest. The 1 that usually follows 7 already showed in the pretest.  That double that looks promising is just a ghost now.......So you continue to aimlessly chase numbers, thinking they are overdue. Not just overdue, but chase numbers with whatever strategy you had. Or, you see that number in a different column, which was actually in the original column, but because they switched the tubes around, and didn't disclose the new positions, everything is now screwed up.

                    Not to mention the many other BS excuses they make along the way.

                    Surely, the RNG can be manipulated too. That's a no brainer. But to say that balls go without scrutiny is false in my opinion.

                     

                    I can't speak for others who don't like RNG's but I for one would prefer not to be called a Ball Lover!


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

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                      "Surely The RNG can be manipulated too. That's a no brainer. But to say that balls go without scrutiny is falce in my opinion"

                      Joker17 you are so on target with this!    

                      and Please I do not want any one else telling me how wrong, I am! and How right they are.

                      I have no Tangible undeniable proof about what I suspect is going on but  neither does ANYONE ELSE have Tangible undeniable proof that my suspicions are unfounded!

                      Now Mr. Lottery officials, be a dear, and bring on the results of the "test draw" as a client I think I  can ask for this to be done!

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                        I can't speak for others who don't like RNG's but I for one would prefer not to be called a Ball Lover!

                        Then how about "lover of balls"....

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                          I can't speak for others who don't like RNG's but I for one would prefer not to be called a Ball Lover!

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                            Then how about "lover of balls"....

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